Best sub to be more independent?

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#1

I have a friend who is interested in the subs but is mainly looking to become more self sufficient and independent in all areas of life but especially emotionally and financially. What should I suggest?

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#2

Genesis, if it’s their first run with SubClub.

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#3

I think Genesis and Mogul or Ascended Mogul would be good.

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#4

Wait! Think about how much you’ve changed over the past 3+ years. What helped YOU accomplish these things? Did DR help? Were there maybe other subs that helped you?

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#5

This :point_up_2:

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#6

Will tag @AnswerGroup because this is an important question. Loads of men are emotionally and financially dependent in this day and age.

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#7

To be honest the very first thing which popped into my head the instant I read the question was Ascension. If you want more emphasis on the financial part there’s Ascended Mogul. It’s small, sweet and a great framework to build on without all kinds of complicated goals and massive subs.

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#8

Have him start with Ascension for a few months and go from there.

#9

Define financially independent… do you mean “has an income/a job, doesn’t need to rely on others to pay for cost of living” or “has a business, doesn’t need a job/boss”?

#10

How about emperor, isn’t it suitable for that as well?

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#11

Genesis is a good start to help orient. Then alpha sub like AM to build a base. Later can advance to a comphrensive like Khan or Emperor

#12

The right thread for me…
Very interested in this one

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#13

Can only talk about what I’ve tried. Among those, I think the best for that job is Emperor, or Chosen to some extent.

That being said, Genesis is likely the most optimal suggestion, specially for both of those who are actively in search of a vision, or beginning their journey into subliminals.

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#14

He is going to purchase Emperor if he hasn’t already

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#15

This was my vote as well. Not sure how dependent he was, but Emperor is what truely flipped my life around.

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#16

Can you elaborate please?

#17

AM+Limitless+DR:LD

Or

Emperor+DR:LD

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#18

That would be a cool asf stack. If someone is a little meek I would add GLM Commander. Ramp up the :eggplant: swinging

#19

Genesis & Dragon Reborn: Limit Destroyer

I think this is a perfect beginner stack based on current scripting. This recommendation might change when older titles get upgraded.

#20

I can’t fucking wait for EOG ZP V2 Max

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