Best sub for selling love?

[Azriel]

This will be a short post and then can follow up when I create a new journal.

I have some interviews coming up for a sales role.
Without saying anything else- I’m selling a dating service.

I want more income streams - and I can do this role and the work I am in now.
The minimum I would make here would be 6 figures. If I am successful at both I could clear 300K in a year easy.

Currently on EOG stage 2 , Emperor, and HOM.

First interview is tomorrow. This stack is pretty solid for interview. Was thinking running a couple minutes of wanted or true sell instead of my EOG day.

Thoughts for subs for interview?

Then for the sales role itself- obviously something with true sell/ what else ?

Any input would be much appreciated.

@Simon
@Ice
@Jouissance

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@Malkuth !

[ksub]

True Sell is what you’re looking for.

[Azriel]

Yup, I’m clear true sell in sub or stack will be great for the role.

Any thoughts on what else for that role

Or what else for the interview?

[ksub]

@Azriel

Yup, I’m clear true sell in sub or stack will be great for the role.

Any thoughts on what else for that role

Or what else for the interview?

@Azriel : An interview is nothing but selling yourself for a role. True Sell will help with that as well.

Look at the objectives. True Sell will do just fine in interview circumstances.
Some people have reported good result in jon interview situation with Chosen.

Other than that the only other product that I know for job interviews is Job Seeker.

If you’re in hardcore job search mode maybe build a custom around True Sell, Chosen and Job Seeker.

[Azriel]

No-not hardcore job search,
just taking really good opportunities and keeping the sword sharp.
Thanks @ksub

[Azriel]

@ksub Do you have personal experience with true sell?

[ksub]

@Azriel

@ksub Do you have personal experience with true sell?

Nope! But I have read enough about it to be able to recommend it. It’s on my list though. I’m just not at a point of my activities where I need to run it yet.

[Azriel]

I ask because I’m getting some pretty diverse feedback.

Some people say ‘its too powerful to run’ for sales or have ‘insane’ results in dating even. And others find Khan and HOM more powerful for sales in their experience or find True Sell doesn’t add too much fire power compared to other subs.

My experience testing it, was nothing to crazy, it made me super conscious of how others perceived me. It did actually correspond to some success with a previous client and work proposal now that I remember it.

[Malkuth]

Your current stack, to me, seems ideal for the situation, frankly. Especially HoM. Swapping in True Sell for EoG at key points where persuasion and influence are especially needed sounds smart. Probably not strictly needed, though.

[ksub]

@Azriel

I ask because I’m getting some pretty diverse feedback.

I can clear some of those real quick for you.

True Sell is a very focused sub. Its script is probably not that dense as the main objective of the sub is to help you sell something or sell yourself. HoM is the most dense and the most massive single stage sub we have. HoM is an financial empire building and family legacy building sub. It’s not the type of sub you should expect fast results from. I’ve been running HoM since last year and I just started seeing results. HoM would be a sub for a person who is looking to lead a sales organization (as a CEO or a founder). HoM would shines in relationship building situations, trading, commerce, finances and things like that. Think of it as a sub for C-Suite executives. It’s not a sub that is necessarily meant to close sales. True Sell is that sub.

@Azriel

And others find Khan and HOM more powerful for sales in their experience or find True Sell doesn’t add too much fire power compared to other subs.

I would pick LBFH and Ascended Mogul or even Chosen for sales situations before I even look at Khan for sales.
Khan is the most extensive alpha programming sub available here. It doesn’t come close to HoM as far as relationship building or sales or negotiations.

@Azriel

Some people say ‘its too powerful to run’ for sales or have ‘insane’ results in dating even. And others

That doesn’t mean anything!!! A sub could be to powerful for one person and another person could barely feel it. And if it was really too powerful, Saint wouldn’t have released it.

[Niles]

100% advise you to not take out E.O.G. I am in a similar high ticket sales position, different niche, but E.O.G. is the one that you should keep in your stack no matter what if you have income goals.

I have experimented quite a bit with both of these titles. My experience is that your productivity, drive, and financial manifestations are infinitely higher with E.O.G. compared to True Sell. Now they could work together if that was your main goal, but then I’d reccomend dropping H.O.M. True Sell may make you feel like technically your sales are getting better, you may put together better sentences, and sound more persuasive, but that is not objective in selling at a high level. The objective is to be talking way less then the prospect. get the prospect to paint you a clear picture of their problems by asking questions, have them then paint you a clear picture of what their desired out come would look like, again by asking questions, and then explain as simply and clearly as possible how your service is the bridge that is going to take them from their current state to their desired state.

[Dantes]

Nah lmao.

HoM is a definite stay. Permanent. If you’re in relationships and wanting to build trust and establish status and respect.

I’d suggest RICH over EoG tbh. Much faster acting, motivating…

Sales boiled down to its core essence is people and relationships

I haven’t tried True Sell but House of Medici will help you in connecting with people, and I’ve noticed it gets people to respect me super easily

Stark has charisma… But It always gets people to flake on taking the decision, it gets them so excited and stuff cause I communicate extremely well but I don’t get the respect and trust that I do with HoM

[Dantes]

I don’t do trades or in financial markets so perhaps I’m not using it to it’s fullest capacity

but one thing for sure is that it helps me with my strategic thinking ability which allows me to see things from the perspective of my leads

and through that understanding it’s allowed me to communicate in the shortest and most efficient way possible…

Intuitively knowing what questions to ask next, focused on them and their needs and trying to understand why they need it and being completely detached from the result

RICH helped me w/ just feeling like money is nothing. RICH will make u feel like you can print money and close deals and that you have infinite and unlimited motivation and ability to print cash.

EoG is much more broad… Personally I think if you struggle with believing you are worthy of making money and have deep rooted traumas (such as growing up poor) and doubt around making money and can’t conceive of making 10-100K/month, then I suggest EoG Stage 1 only for a month.

That sub will make you have zero doubts. It will clear all your limiting beliefs like magic lmao

[Dantes]

it’s not what you say… It’s how you say it.

[Dantes]

So that’s why I’m a little hesitant on True Sell for Sales…

But I think it could be the best sub for dating and copywriting…

Cause you have to be good with your words when you text them lol

[Azriel]

This is gold- thanks

I appreciate the high level/ experiential advice.
I’ve been hear for years and have extensive deep understanding of the product descriptions and in many cases experience with most of products.

I’m asking other pros- for the pro feedback. And this is it.

I’ll definitely leave EOG in-possible do a HOM/True Sell custom

Sounds like your sales numbers are higher with E.O.G than true sell-
If True-sell doesn’t increase sales number and bottom line income - it’s not worth replacing a juggernaut program

[Azriel]

thanks @ksub

really appreciate the feedback

I’m in private equity and have run HOM for about 6 months- invaluable-for the investment side and the relationship side.

I have not done a lot of direct selling with it-
it helps a lot for building relationships for fundraising.
It also helps a lot with big opportunity manifestation/deals as well.

@ksub

That doesn’t mean anything!!! A sub could be to powerful for one person and another person could barely feel it. And if it was really too powerful, Saint wouldn’t have released it.

Too powerful - like it was ‘too easy’ for them. Not like they couldn’t handle it

[ksub]

@Azriel

I have not done a lot of direct selling with it-
it helps a lot for building relationships for fundraising.
It also helps a lot with big opportunity manifestation/deals as well.

@Azriel : Nice summary of HoM right there. Not for direct selling but for building relationships and manifestations of big deals and opportunities. Add the family component to it and you got HoM!!!

[Dantes]

sales = relationships

[Malkuth]

My view of how to use the subs is that they are an adjunct.

The central power source and energy source is you: your mind, your purpose, your talents, your dreams.

Those are combined with the subliminals and beauty results.

I think that sometimes people don’t factor in themselves enough when discussing subliminal strategies.

You’re one of the people on here who has really done a lot with Emperor. Worked with it for a long time, made a lot of moves with it. I think you’ve worked with it through several build formats. And I got the sense that you’d worked with HoM for a significant amount of time as well. (I see now that it’s been 6 months.).

Influence. Alliance building. Relationship development. Resource development. And a continually deepening sense of your own Vision, Goals, and Purpose and how your daily moves fit into that big picture. That’s what it seems you’ve been building and working on.

It seems to come down to Self-Determination and Personal Power.

That’s the foundation you’re coming from, and it’s what animates you, whether you’re negotiating for yourself (in an ‘interview’) or connecting people with valued resources and experiences (in a sales context).

That’s why I think your current stack is pretty on point. It feels kind of personalized to you and worked out over time. But other relevant programs like True Sell could focus and target your abilities for specific situations where that’s helpful.

Kind of depends on your approach to selling. On how you see yourself working.

A custom does make a lot of sense in this situation. But first a bit of introspection.

But for the interview situation, especially the ‘interview between equals’ which is more your style, HoM seems appropriate.