Best sub for nightlife & cold approach?

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#13

I can tell by your username (now that takes me back, lol) and your outward confidence that you already carry yourself with some “that guy” energy. You don’t need much. Less is definitely more here: two titles max.

  • Primal Seduction + Summertime: the ideal social-life mix. Summertime brings dedicated fun scripting and encourages you to live in the moment. Ideal if you’re focused on body language.
  • Primal Seduction + Peace: adds grounding, clarity and magnetism to your game. Peace is a game-changing sub that clears mental baggage and encourages healing without sacrificing productivity or drive. It also has magnetism scripting.
  • Primal Seduction + Emperor: DADDY: adds grace and maturity to your game. This one’s for the slightly older guy who wants that “Daddy” vibe (I’m 37 and swear by Emperor: DADDY). It comes with a high-value mindset that helps you recognize time-wasters and move on. Warning: women can get attached fast. Handle with care.
  • Primal Seduction + Wanted: Dream Boy: deep synergy. Don’t let the name fool you: WDB is a powerful sub focused on building connection over raw sexual attraction. Connections run deeper, last longer, and can turn a one-night stand into a long-term dynamic.
  • Primal Seduction + WANTED Black: a difficult mix, but worthwhile for long-term use. It approaches seduction from both ends: WANTED Black makes you the prize while Primal Seduction handles your approach game.
  • Primal Seduction + Diamond: virtual Viagra. Keep an eye on Diamond; an update is expected in the coming months.
  • Name-embedded Primal Seduction with Panther: Panther is the best approach module, and in a simple name-embedded custom you won’t have to worry about other modules diluting its effects. You can also pair it with another sub.
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#14

unfortunately my username is a goal of what i want to be in 2027 not what i currently am. im definitely not “that guy” yet. i actually have not had sex since 2023 even though i have gone out clubbing most weekends during that time.

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#15

Start with a single title and use microloops according to the instructions. I’m a new user here as well. I started with one title and then added another, and the results were so crazy that I couldn’t capitalize on the attention or even understand what was happening in my reality.

Start with Primal Seduction only. Once you reach 15 minutes, if you’re not getting the results you expected, consider adding something else, although that’s highly unlikely to be the case.

Journal everything so you know what to expect at different listening durations. For example, you might get laid after listening for 7 minutes but not after listening for 12 minutes. That doesn’t necessarily mean the subliminal stopped working. Perhaps you received so much attention at the club that a catfight or some political game broke out over you, and you ended up going home alone. You might have enjoyed the attention, but you didn’t get laid, which was your main objective.

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#16

PS is all you need, mostly.

A few things to keep in mind (Based on my experience):

  1. Your Non-verbal communication will be strong and will polarize people. People will immediately show interest and engage or they will completely ignore you from the first glance. With the immediate overt interest, expect to also see rejection from the moment you lay eyes on women.

  2. You’ll feel nudges according to the level of interaction you already have had with women till now. I’ve enjoyed a step-by-step progression from just beginning to have small talk with beautiful women to gradually learning to close frequently. Naturally increasing your engagement will be much more permanent and fun. Although you can just try and go for the close ( which you should if you stop seeing progress with women midway).

  3. PS is a fun sub, I feel adventurous and enjoy life more on it. It’s totally alright if thats what you want to do, but in my experience pairing it with a productivity/work title like IndexGate, Emperor Executive or limitless maintains the novelty without Game feeling like a job/ becoming boring.

PS is an amazing title where you’ll see results from the moment you start playing, but the process to your end Goal is gradual and will take time, effort and consistency. It’s akin to gymming and building your physique.

PS: Journalling is important for this journey, without it you can start to feel stalled. Thankfully, regular basic journaling or voice notes of your experience is enough.

All the best. :slightly_smiling_face:

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#17

I have a lot of problems with opening/approaching/making the first move.

I’m usually only able to make the first move when a girl makes it very obvious/easy for me.

Overt interest mixed with being completely ignored is something that could still be very useful if I’m able to take advantage of the girls who show obvious interest.

this is a mistake I made last time I was using subs. ll definitely start a journal here tomorrow to track my results.

PS: Ill definitely be using primal seduction when I go out tomorrow night but I’m still considering stacking it with khan black stage 4 or the Nectar sub. do you think that would be a good idea?

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#18

Pairing with KB ST4 can be mostly alright. Enhanced sexuality will benefit PS, Although I have a question.

  1. How much of KB ST4 have you ran till now?

I ask this because,

A. KB ST4 is one of the MOST heaviest Title in the SubClub Catalogue. it might need time before you can be sure you’re seeing its effect on you. With other sexual subs, like PS or Sex and Seduction, you can see the effect sooner.

B. Knowing which sub does what to you helps you understand how to use a sub effectively. this is where journaling comes handy. With using 2 unused subs, it can get difficult to pinpoint which sub did what when you play consistently.

So, if you are planning to run a KBST4 cycle or 2, or just wanting to see what happens tomorrow, go ahead and try it!
Keep in mind that KBST4 can take up more mental space over PS.

For Nectar, I haven’t used or tested it enough to know what it does to me, so I can’t say for sure. I’d assume it would work better on warm connections than cold ones you meet at the club. Again, you can try this and see how it works out for you. It’ll be much more lighter than KB ST4, thats more mental space for PS to operate on.

That’s EXACTLY the place I started at.
Approaching women is like a muscle. Consistently putting yourself in a position of rejection from women trains this muscle overtime.

I approached this with small talk with women at Malls / Flee markets, with whatever came naturally in my head on PS. Overtime you get comfortable if you do this consistently, you don’t need the small talk and can come straight to the point naturally with any woman. It’s just about developing this muscle and habit and PS does its magic with your vibe, nudges and words.

There are some who come straight to the point from the start and see success with cold approaching. But that approach makes me awkward and not be fun.

So remember to have fun, and let us know how it goes! :grin:

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#19

I would go primal seduction,

And for approaching one thing that can help and is also extremely powerful is just hey compliment something genuine, If you are nervous just say it, It shows balls, and trying to hide nervousness when she can see it is completely pointlesss.

I remember when I approached a girl at 7 am in the morning feeling like absolute shit and super nervous as I was doing shadow work at the time.

I went up to the a drop dead gorgeous girl and say hey I just wanted to say I think you are super sexy, but I feel embarassed expressing that as I feel that is wrong,

Before I could even say anything, she said I think you are sexy, I was like what and short circuited.

Other than that just relax as much as you can, and let whatever happen happen,

You can also use techical game however i would only use that as training wheels, as that can actually be damaging to your self image if you do just routine after routine.

But it it helps you open go for it.

Also most girls even if they reject you will be grateful you approached them,

And honestly just be yourself, the thing girls always told you to be, But we men never understood what they meant XD.

If you have a super hard time you can also start smaller ask for direction, Do hit and runs, (This is great). And have fun.

You got this dude, the fact you are cold approaching is already something 99% of men dont have the balls to do.

BEst of luck

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#20

Yeah you could stack with PN or Nectar, though personally Nectar makes me tired sometimes. Since it’s your first sub I would do the first cycle with only PS, also I personally still do the old cycles (21 days off and on then a 5 day washout)

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#21

It is unclear how these two relate. Do you enjoy loud night clubs and would like to combine them with meeting women, or are you only going there to meet women? In the latter case, I would broaden my perspective on how to meet women.

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#22

not much but I remember that the closest I have come to getting laid since 2023 was when I was using KB ST4.

This attractive girl approached me on the street at night and made it really obvious she was down to come home with me. unfortunately, I was living with my parents back then and had nowhere to take her.

Im also pretty sure I got some make outs on the dancefloor while on KB ST4 but not 100% sure as it might also have been primal nights.

my problem might be more complex because I have been doing cold approach since 2010 and I still struggle enormously with making that first move.

sounds good bro. I’ll start a journal before I go out tomorrow night.

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#23

It’s not my first sub and I have been doing some form of subconscious programming since at least 2010.

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#24

I only go to nightclubs to meet women.

I find it easier than daygame.

I struggle enormously to approach in nightclubs but at least I can do it once in a while.

in daygame I find it pretty much impossible to approach.

I also find it pretty much impossible to approach in bars.

this is why I only do nightgame specifically in nightclubs.

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#25

thank you for the encouragement.

I also do not drink and go out solo.

I doubt most guys could do night game like that.

#26

For night game, one thing one of my old mentors did with me, Who was the dating coach that taught dating coaches,

For the first 30 mins we just walked around, while focusing on massive relaxation, standing in a high pressure social enviroment feeling comfortable looking weird, No approach yet,

Then when we got really comfortable, he told me, approach the most intimidating girl go,

And I did, Went up to some girl on the dance floor that was drop dead gorgeus and surrounded with 3 guys,

Said one sentence and left, as I did not feel like dancing, 1 minute later she and her girlfriend came up to me outside the dance floor,

And I was in complete flow for the rest of the night, after that one approach,

I even approached another super hot girl and asked what her favorite color was, and she lit up.

The energy you radiate is so huuuuge, Getting out of your head and into your body is massive.

And yea kudos to you going out without drinking, and solo

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#27

Lol for sure I meant your first SubClub sub.

#28

Classic pickup approaches cam up before online dating was a common thing. Having hobbies and a social circle in which you meet women might be, besides online dating, be a more effective approach. Also, if you ever want to go beyond one night stands, women might quickly lose interest in a guy that does little besides going to clubs. If humans would only have sex after “day game” or “night game,” humanity would have ceased to exist a long time ago.

#29

Ha ha, happened to me as well several times when I ran KHAN Stage 4 :joy:

KHAN Stage 4 is the ultimate “manifest women who want sex, completely out of nowhere, and in the least like place to meet anyone at all”.
I mean like, you could be out in the desert, at night, far away from any civilization, and still manifest a woman :grin:

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#30

As someone who bartended in nightclubs and just about every type of bar and restaurant you can think of my advice is talk to everyone you can on your way to the nightclub. Whether it turns into a conversation or it’s only saying , “What’s up”, “Happy Friday”, or whatever and walking away. This warms you up to talking to people. The security and bartenders are not too busy when they first open. Make conversation with them. Remember their names so every time you go back you greet them. Remind them of your name if you have to.

A couple Halloweens ago I took out my friend for his birthday to a nightclub inside of the hotel I used to work at. I worked in the craft cocktail lounge and was pretty brand new, but gratefully I made friends with the security during orientation. Everyday I got of of work at 10pm I would pass the front entrance of the nightclub to chat it up with him about life. Then I would take off to get something to eat. That day of Halloween cover was $60 each person. I was passing by and said what’s up, because my friend wanted to go somewhere else. After 15 min of talking to the security guard offered to let us in free and my friend said alright. I went in and chatted up random people. After 30 minutes I went up to the hottest Blonde when she first walked in. I made her laugh and took off in 5 minutes. What I didn’t know is a lot of women noticed, including the bottle service girls. I walked towards the bar and went up to a girl in a cat woman costume and made out with her within 10 minutes, got her number and hung out later that next week. The next time I was working and bumped into the bottle service girls in the break area of the hotel. The two who saw me talk to the blonde and make out with a girl, came up to me. We ended up being FWB.

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#31

this really resonates with me. is there any sub you have found that makes it easy to accomplish this?

#32

@heartmadeiron @driller @Rapsta @SwedishBuddha @Steezy88

i started a journal if you guys are interested in hearing my results:

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