Best martial art to become more alpha

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#1

Hey guys,
I started my emperor journey two weeks ago and decided to take action and join a martial arts club. in my vicinity, there’s 1. Karate 2. Muay Thai 3. Wing Tsun 4. Kickboxing

I did Karate as a kid.

The Muay Thai club seems pretty good. They won quite some medals in world championships.

The Wing Tsun club offers also escrima, what I did back in college. (And I love Ipman)

I want to join a club to connect more to my masculine core. To get used to getting physical. To get beaten and learn to keep strong. To learn to become assertive.

What would serve my interest most?

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#2

No martial art is going to you an alpha. Alpha status is a frame of mind. If you want to train a martial art just pick one you like and start training. I’ve have seen people who never trained martial arts be more badass people who trained.

#3

Anything that involves heavy sparring would help. Added bonus if during training you are made to take hits in non permanently damaging places if it is striking.

So muai Thai, boxing, ju jitsu kickboxing, wrestling etc.

I would say find an MMA gym and do all the above.

And spar.

Prob not wing chun though they’re notorious for not sparring, so they are usually pretty far removed from real combat.

Karate depends on the gym. Some are excellent, others are mcDojos

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#4

I disagree.

Martial arts will build your confidence, self esteem, discipline, will power, lower your anxiety, fear and much more.

Being good at martial arts will make you SUPER confident and alpha, you will be assertive because you will not be afraid to speak up, you will know, that if someone will not like your alpha behaviour and try to mess with you, you will be able to handle with it.

I would advice a striking based martial arts, choose boxing/kickboxing/muay thai.

As someone who does muay thai i can definitely say that even regular boxing will be good enough for your purpose, i just like muay thai personally :relaxed:

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#5

Boxing, Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

#6

Muay Thai is great for all of that.

A quick caveat: the quality of instruction matters.

It sounds like the place you checked out trains competitive fighters, so that’s a plus.

I recommend watching the higher level class at any place that interests you and to take a class or three. Nothing like first hand experience to know if it’s what you’re looking for.

#7

I’ not sure the alpha terminology is very useful. But a lot of social uncertainty looks physically like being under physical threat. Shy people on dates or, publically speaking, look like they are bracing for being attacked by someone else or some feline. Conversely, learning to deal with physical threats will make you look and feel socially more confident.

I would generally advise for martial arts that involve some form of sparring and competition and put you under real pressure. Learning supposedly deadly moves you are not allowed to practice with realistic energy will not give you the feedback and experience that you know what you do works. It might still be useful to learn something like this on the side to get an idea about things not allowed in sports, but the majority of your training should allow for real energy. I personally prefer grappling, where you can train with very high intensity relatively safely. If you do boxing sparring at a high intensity, you will accumulate concussive trauma and permanently damage your brain. MMA gyms tend to spar at a healthier intensity if you want to practice striking.

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#8

I think Karate schools are more for kids these days, unfortunately. I did karate as a kid as well, with a very intense instructor that brought realism to the training and had a kickboxing style sparring part of the Adult Class, at least, but that’s hard to find.

The other 3 you mentioned are all good.

Alphas aren’t just “intimidating and tough” they’re also successful and happy. So whichever one makes you the happiest - whichever one you’re the most internally interested by. Do the one that you would do just for fun, even if you never got bigger/tougher/stronger.

The one that you’re the most interested in is the one that you’ll improve at the fastest, which means it’s the one that’ll change your physicality the fastest - not to mention give you a hobby you really enjoy

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#9

8 Years ago, I was a depressed, totally unsecure beta. Then I decided to take some dance classes at college sports. It was a good start to come into physical contact with woman and it kinda built confidence. But I also noticed the Escrima class that started afterwards. I got interessted and I joined. It was a lot of fun. Our trainer also trained the special units of the customs, so his training was very practical for everyday situations like defending against a knife attack etc. His training was a real boost for my confidence. Just knowing that I can denfend myself made me held my head higher. But there I also met a guy with a sword. Talked to him, and he was the instructor of the fencing group and invited me for a trial lesson and I joined his class. After mastering the basics, I did my first sparring fight. I froze instantly. Seeing someone swinging 3 pounds of cold steel towards your head is not for the faint of heart. But after some time it got easier and I was able to fight. After two years of training, I even had some matrix moments. Your opponent attacks and the time slows down. You get the time to plan how to conter and strike. An incredible feeling.
Knowing that you can defend yourself, knowing that some mere pain can’t stop you, that you can apply the principles you’ve integrated in your mind can also be applied to a fight without a sword aswell changes how you perceive yourself. It definetly changes you more towards beeing a secure and self-assured person, what is imho an alpha trait.

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#10

Any martial arts will bring out alpha traits in you. In this context, Alpha being able to fulfill one of your many duties in the masculine role, in this case, being able to defend and assault, i.e: you provide physical safety, like a hunter and a warrior and whatnot.

Go Boxing in my opinion, Kickboxing in your case. If you are able, take multiple arts.

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#12

Anything that involves actually hitting and getting hit and/or manhandling and being manhandled will do the trick.
The key is to get used to a live resisting opponent. That way when you get into a confrontation on any level, your subconscious (remember, we are still wired for the world as it was thousands of years ago) will say “eh, I can take this dude easy”, and it won’t trigger a fear response.
That’ll help you come off as a calm alpha.

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#13

I say Muay Thai, as someone who trained for a long time in both Muay Thai and Shotokan Karate (which I actually loved, but Karate has not evolved, so it’s a dying art).

However, I want to clear up this idea about needing a “live resisting partner.” It’s not 100% true. The purpose of forms in traditional martial arts is to train the automatic response when under pressure. Your automatic responses are trained when you’re NOT under pressure and the fight or flight instinct isn’t being fully engaged. When the fight or flight instinct is engaged, you execute the automatic response rather than learning.

For example, a basic drill we did in karate was that the instructor would yell, or use something to make a loud crack sound and we were supposed to immediately hop into our fighting stance. We’d drill this for quite some time. Eventually, anytime I heard a loud noise, I’d immediately shift into a fighting mindset and fighting stance.

There was an incident with my roommate at the time, who had a penchant of jumping out of the dark and trying to scare me when I got home. He stopped doing that after I instinctively knocked him out.

When you do nothing but hard sparring all the time, your mind isn’t in training mode, it’s in survival mode and you’re not actually learning skills. The proper way to do train is the same way you train anything. You start slow, then build up in speed and power.

Slow is smooth and smooth is strong. You work the fundamentals for a very long time and when you move to anything advanced, it’s easy. I started training kali a few weeks ago and because those movements are very similar to kendo, I’m picking it up very easy.

Do the martial art that clicks with you.

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#14

@SaintSovereign Have you ever trained Dutch Kickboxing?

#15

Based on the choices you mentioned Muay Thai is the easy choice. It is very physical and will make your bones harder. They even have medals from world championships so you know they are world class. MMA offers a lot of money and I haven’t seen fighters use Wing Tsun, a Wing Chun variant, to win it. You see a lot of Wing Chun “masters” getting whooped by other styles on YouTube though. Karate can be useful for martial philosophy, form, timing, and gauging distance but you have to evolve it yourself outside your dojo because the combat experience is lacking. Kickboxing is great too but lacks elbows. If you can find a decent boxing gym you can go there as well. It will help your Muay Thai.

#16

We’re actually in agreement, I just may not have expressed myself properly.
“Dead” technique training is also absolutely essential to learn to fight. It needs to be coupled with “live” training in some form though. That’s what lets your hind brain really get the message that you can handle yourself.
That’s what you want if the goal is for it to make you more alpha.
I started training at eight, but it didn’t have a positive effect on my confidence until I went to a place where a part of the training involved actually hitting and throwing each other when I was twelve or so.
That really got it into my head on a deep level that if the social intimidation I was suffering at school did turn into a fight, it wasn’t anything to fear.
My confidence and demeanor changed very quickly after that.

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#17

Dutch Kickboxing is just more tit-for-tat contact drills, with a greater focus on boxing (specifically body work) with heavier low kicks compared to regular kickboxing.

If you’ve trained kickboxing or Muay Thai Long enough, you’re bound to have trained in the Dutch style because it really just depends on the coach that’s training you at the moment.

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#18

True. I remember watching K1 and thinking it didn’t look like just mauy thai

Back in 2002 I trained at the MN Kali Group for a while and took their Phase 1 class which is now called MKG Blend. Basically Kali stick work and Muay Thai in the first level. May be some basic JKD in there as will. First time ever doing something as intense as MT. My forearms were beat to shit from holding the pads for someone else.

Silat fascinates me as well

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