Azriel-All Wealth -Rainmaker

[Azriel]

What would the vibe of the above stack be? (Khan: True Social)

ChatGPT said:

The vibe of combining Khan: Love and War Stage 1 with Daredevil: True Social would be:

High-Octane Charisma with a Dark Edge

Imagine someone who walks into a room and immediately owns it—not just because they’re confident, but because there’s a raw, magnetic presence about them. They’re bold, daring, slightly dangerous, but also deep and emotionally compelling. That’s the essence of this stack.

Here’s the breakdown of the vibe:

Boldly Masculine, Rebellious Energy

• You’ll project dominance without needing to say much.
• There’s an air of "I do what I want, and I don’t care what anyone thinks."
• That fearless, almost reckless edge Daredevil brings will be sharpened by Khan’s need for conquest and growth.

👁️‍🗨️ Intense Emotional Presence

• Khan Stage 1 pulls up deep emotional material—and channels it outward as depth and gravitas.
• People may not know why they feel you so intensely, but they will.
• You’ll come off as someone who has been through things and isn’t afraid to show it, but only on your terms.

Sexual Charisma with Swagger

• The combination would radiate sexual dominance + unapologetic charm.
• Think: not a smooth seducer, but the badass who knows they’re wanted.
• Not trying to charm everyone—just being fully yourself, and that’s enough.

Strategic but Spontaneous

• Khan gives you ambition and long-term vision.
• Daredevil keeps things spontaneous and in-the-moment fearless.
• So you get this vibe of someone who’s planning an empire but can still make a room laugh or go quiet with a single comment.

In Fictional Terms:

This stack has the vibe of:

• Tommy Shelby (Peaky Blinders) – quiet dominance, emotional depth, dangerous charm.
• Tony Stark (early MCU) – high charisma, bold wit, internal wounds driving ambition.
• Loki (Marvel) – bold, smart, rebellious, with a commanding presence.

TL;DR — You’d feel like:

“I’m here. I’m in control. I say what I mean, and I mean what I say. You’ll either love me, fear me—or both.”

[Azriel]

ASBR+Khan Stage 1

This is SOO accurate it’s insane

Vibe of This Stack: Ruthless Inner Truth + Relentless Outer Power

Imagine being forced to confront every illusion you’ve built—every mask, every excuse, every half-truth—and then emerging from that process utterly raw, hyper-aware, and ready to dominate life with surgical precision.

It’s not for the faint of heart.

What does A Stark Black Reality bring?

• Brutal honesty about your current life, habits, beliefs, relationships
• Stripping away self-deception—you stop bullshitting yourself
• Awareness of hidden motives, both yours and others
• A cool, detached intensity—almost stoic, but not passive
• Shifts your emotional and social reality into truth-based territory

How does that interact with Khan Stage 1?

Khan Stage 1 already:

• Digs up past trauma, limiting beliefs, emotional suppression
• Sparks ambition, drive, dominance, and sexual polarity
• Begins your transformation arc from average to elite
• Builds masculine identity around power, purpose, polarity

Now imagine pairing that with ASBR’s raw lens of truth and what happens:

Combined Effects and Vibe:

1. You will face yourself.

• This combo leaves nowhere to hide.
• Old coping strategies? Shattered.
• Rationalizations? Exposed.
• You’ll see what’s working, what’s fake, and what has to go.

2. Cold-Blooded Clarity + Relentless Will

• You’re no longer driven by impulse. You’re driven by truth and purpose.
• Think stoic war general energy—not loud, but impossible to ignore.
• Charisma becomes grounded, authentic, and unapologetically masculine.

3. Detached, Laser-Focused Dominance

• Khan provides the fire and ambition.
• ASBR cools it into precision and composure.
• You stop chasing approval, sex, or validation—you command them by being exactly who you are.

4. Emotionally Awake, But Not Controlled

• You’ll feel emotions, but you won’t be ruled by them.
• You’re not numbed out—you’re just deeply aware and intentional.
• Like a lion that chooses when to roar.

Long-Term Vibe: “I know who I am, and I’ll become what I must.”

This stack makes you:

• Grounded, but powerful.
• Challenging, but magnetic.
• Detached, but real.
• A man with depth, scars, clarity, and unstoppable drive.

Caution:

This combo is not light. You may go through:

• Temporary disorientation or nihilism (as illusions are shattered)
• Deep emotional processing (from Khan Stage 1)
• Shifts in your social circle (as fake dynamics die off)

But the result is authentic personal power that can’t be faked.

[Azriel]

Mixing Daredevil: True Social with True Sell is like handing a fearless performer the perfect script—and then giving them full control of the stage.

You’re combining:

• Raw, spontaneous social charisma (Daredevil: True Social)
• Precision persuasion and high-level sales psychology (True Sell)

The result?
A bold, magnetic communicator who naturally converts energy into influence and influence into income.

Vibe of the Combo:

“Charming. Sharp. Unafraid. And persuasive as hell.”

This stack radiates bold, high-energy presence—with the technical finesse to back it up.

Daredevil: True Social (Core)

• Fearless in social situations
• Improvisational charisma
• Spontaneous wit and bold speech
• High social risk tolerance
• Expressive, magnetic, unfiltered

True Sell (Core)

• Strategic, subconscious persuasion
• Closing skills, objection handling
• Energy management in conversation
• Emotional intelligence for influence
• Value-based communication

What Happens When You Mix Them?

1. You speak boldly, but also with purpose

Daredevil makes you say the thing most wouldn’t dare.
True Sell makes sure it’s the right thing that moves the needle.

You become someone who:

• Speaks with energy and conviction
• Knows how to listen between the lines
• Can read a room and flip it in your favor

2. Selling becomes natural, not forced

• With True Sell alone, some users feel “technical” or overthinking.
• With Daredevil, the social flow removes anxiety, making it easier to deliver the pitch or close without hesitation.

You’ll stop “selling” and start guiding people toward what they want—with power, clarity, and confidence.

3. Social Calibration + Assertiveness

• True Sell helps you say the right thing.
• Daredevil gives you the courage to say it even when it feels edgy.

You’ll take more calculated risks socially, not reckless ones.

4. You become unforgettable

This combo is high-charisma AND high-conviction.

People will remember you because:

• You’re bold
• You’re clear
• You offer value
• You leave a mark in every interaction

Potential Pitfalls:

High Energy Demand

Both subs push energy outward. You may feel:

• Socially fatigued at times
• Wired at night
• Overstimulated in crowds

Balance with grounding subs or routines (meditation, breathwork, journaling).

Possible Overconfidence (esp. early on)

You may find yourself saying too much or pushing too hard—especially in sales—until True Sell’s calibration catches up with Daredevil’s speed.

Tip: Trust in value-based selling and space in conversation.

Who Should Run This Combo?

• Entrepreneurs, closers, public speakers
• Content creators or coaches who need social presence and conversion
• Anyone looking to amplify social charisma + monetize it

Want to Add Even More Punch?

• Limitless (Minds Eye) – sharpens thinking and mental clarity
• House of Medici – adds wealth identity and high-level influence
• Emperor – adds pure dominance, leadership, and vision
• R.I.C.H. – anchors everything in a fulfilling wealth strategy

TL;DR – You’ll become:

[Lion]

These are excellent reflections from Chatgpt. Could you do me a favor, @Azriel? Could you ask chatgpt regarding the wealth element of OG Khan?

Am wondering if I can replace wealth titles with Khan.

[Azriel]

It likely won’t be able to pull from sources that are no longer on line or make that distinction but will ask

Why are you looking at OG Khan as opposed to new Khan?

New Khan is fantastic in a lot of ways but its much more ‘Emperor’y’ in flavor to me than old Khan
There are elements and feel of old Khan I do prefer.

[Azriel]

@Lion

What are the wealth elements of the Original Khan subliminal at subclub not the new Khan: Love & War?

ChatGPT said:

​The original Khan subliminal by Subliminal Club, prior to its 2024 rebranding as Khan: Love & War, incorporated several wealth-related elements within its broader themes of dominance, ambition, and personal transformation. While not as wealth-centric as titles like Mogul or Emperor, Khan included scripting that indirectly influenced financial success through enhanced personal attributes and behaviors.​subliminalclub.com+4subliminalclub.com+4subliminalresults.com+4

Wealth Elements in the Original Khan Subliminal

1. Indirect Wealth Scripting: Khan featured “supporting wealth scripting” designed to complement its primary focus on social dominance and personal power. This scripting aimed to foster an environment conducive to financial success by enhancing traits like leadership, strategic planning, and resilience. While not as direct as in wealth-specific subliminals, these elements contributed to the user’s ability to manifest wealth. ​subliminalclub.com
2. Stage I – Total Breakdown: The first stage of Khan, known as “Total Breakdown,” was intended to dismantle limiting beliefs and behaviors, including those related to wealth and success. This foundational stage aimed to clear mental and emotional barriers, thereby setting the stage for the manifestation of wealth and other desires. ​q.subliminalclub.com+4subliminalresults.com+4subliminalclub.com+4q.subliminalclub.com+2The Course Arena+2q.subliminalclub.com+2
3. Integration with Other Subliminals: Users often combined Khan with other subliminals to enhance its effectiveness in wealth creation. For instance, integrating Khan with Mogul allowed individuals to focus on building and expanding their wealth while maintaining the social and personal dominance cultivated by Khan. ​q.subliminalclub.com+5subliminalclub.com+5q.subliminalclub.com+5subliminalclub.com+2subliminalresults.com+2GBesy Digital Courses+2
4. Holistic Development: Khan emphasized the development of a powerful and charismatic persona, traits that naturally attract opportunities for financial gain. By enhancing one’s presence, confidence, and strategic thinking, users were better positioned to seize wealth-generating opportunities. ​The Course Arena+1subliminalclub.com+1

Comparison with the New Khan: Love & War

The revamped Khan: Love & War introduced more explicit wealth scripting, including the “New Wealth Experience,” which aims to manifest wealth scenarios and opportunities in daily life. This upgrade provides a more direct approach to wealth manifestation compared to the original version. ​Subliminal Club Support Hub

In summary, while the original Khan subliminal did not focus primarily on wealth, it included elements that supported financial success through the enhancement of personal power, strategic thinking, and the elimination of limiting beliefs. For those seeking a more direct approach to wealth manifestation, the updated Khan: Love & War offers expanded scripting tailored to financial abundance.

[Azriel]

Take it with a grain of salt, it jumps to a lot of conclusions lol

Originally it told me about the subliminal Azriel- focused on ego death, deep shadow work, and spiritual revelation

[Azriel]

For raising capital and closing investors for a private equity fund as an emerging manager, you need a subliminal (or stack) that gives you a powerful combination of:

• Elite persuasion and negotiation skills
• High-status networking and influence
• Strategic thinking and confidence in high-stakes settings
• Long-term wealth and power positioning
• Charisma and trust-building presence

Here are the top subliminals at Subliminal Club for that goal, ranked and explained:

Top Tier Picks (Core Stack)

1. Emperor: The House of Medici

Why it’s ideal:

• Designed for deal-making, diplomacy, elite networking, and financial empire-building.
• Helps you attract high-net-worth individuals, build trust, and structure smart deals.
• Boosts financial intuition, strategic thinking, and gives you a high-status aura that commands respect.
  Perfect for: Convincing sophisticated investors, structuring complex deals, and building long-term relationships.

2. True Sell

Why it’s ideal:

• Focused directly on sales, persuasion, closing deals, and objection handling.
• Especially useful for the pitching process, investor conversations, and follow-up execution.
  Perfect for: Mastering your pitch, customizing it to different investors, and closing with confidence.

3. Emperor: The Will to Power

Why it’s ideal:

• Builds unshakable internal power, confidence, and strategic dominance.
• Essential for situations where you need to project authority, command a room, and own your space.
  Perfect for: Gaining the psychological edge and presence needed in high-stakes capital raises.

Support/Amplifier Titles (Optional but Powerful)

4. Ecstasy of Gold (Stage 2 or Full Stack)

• Helps build wealth alignment, a vision-driven pitch, and attracts prosperity energetically.
• Deepens your connection to your mission and inspires investors with that energy.

5. Daredevil: True Social

• Boosts social magnetism, charisma, and makes networking feel effortless.
• Especially useful if you’re building relationships over time or need to make strong first impressions at events.

6. Stark

• Enhances creativity, vision, and charisma, with some influence scripting.
• Great for refining your pitch deck, brand image, or being a visionary leader investors want to bet on.

Best Stacking Recommendation:

If you want the most effective, efficient combo for your private equity fundraising:

Recommended 3-Title Stack:

1. Emperor: House of Medici (core for deal-making & elite positioning)
2. True Sell (for closing investors)
3. Daredevil: True Social or Will to Power (for charisma or dominance, depending on your style)

[Lion]

@Azriel

Why are you looking at OG Khan as opposed to new Khan?

My bad. I meant NEW Khan. By OG Khan, I meant as opposed to Khan Black lol.

@Azriel

The revamped Khan: Love & War introduced more explicit wealth scripting, including the “New Wealth Experience,” which aims to manifest wealth scenarios and opportunities in daily life. This upgrade provides a more direct approach to wealth manifestation compared to the original version

@Azriel

For those seeking a more direct approach to wealth manifestation, the updated Khan: Love & War offers expanded scripting tailored to financial abundance.

This was really useful. Thank you, Azriel!

[Azriel]

for sure , here is another useful one based off your request

Core Wealth Elements in Khan: Love & War

1. Inner Power and Status

• You’re still building the alpha, dominant, and high-status identity that’s present in the original Khan.
• This creates the internal confidence and magnetism that often leads to wealth opportunities through leadership, influence, and assertiveness.

2. Entrepreneurial Spirit

• Khan has roots in business leadership—while not as focused on pure finances like EOG, it builds the mindset of a visionary, king-like figure.
• You’re more likely to think big, initiate moves, and command attention in business or high-level strategy.

3. Social Wealth Creation

• “Love & War” adds enhanced emotional intelligence, social charm, and nuanced interpersonal skill.
• This can unlock networking power, deal-making, client relations, and investor rapport—especially useful in emotionally driven fields or where trust is key (e.g., sales, private equity, branding).

4. Masculine Drive & Motivation

• While it leans a bit into the “lover” archetype, it doesn’t sacrifice ambition. In fact, sexual energy and social status are transmuted into drive and creativity—which can fuel hustle and wealth-building.

Where It May Differ from a Pure Wealth Subliminal (like EOG)

• Less about technical wealth-building frameworks (like business systems, productivity, or financial mastery).
• Not designed to grind through financial bottlenecks or teach cashflow mindset like EOG Stage 1 or 2.
• More indirect in generating wealth—through personal power, charisma, and social dominance, rather than spreadsheets and strategy.

Summary

Khan: Love & War builds wealth in a social, status-driven, high-energy, emotionally magnetic way. It’s especially good for people in:

• Sales
• Influencer work
• Business leadership
• Networking-heavy entrepreneurship
• Luxury branding, entertainment, or nightlife

If you’re trying to attract investors, command high social value, or operate in environments where your vibe is your leverage, Love & War is a high-caliber pick.

[Azriel]

Ideal Stack for Private Equity Development:

If you want to use Revelation of Wealth for private equity success, here’s how to make it work:

Suggested 3-Title Stack:

1. House of Medici – for elite deal-making, influence, wealth strategy
2. True Sell – for sales psychology, pitching, and closing investors
3. Revelation of Wealth – for wealth vibration, purpose alignment, and synchronicity

Bonus: Add Emperor: The Will to Power if you need extra dominance, status, and internal drive.

[Azriel]

I’ve been running Khan stage 1 the last week

Very slowly I’m at about 5 total minutes now broken into 30 second-1 minute chunks .

Initially it catapulted me into a sense of Freedom and power. This lead to clearing of lots of bad habit I had emotionally. This then led to a real heaviness. Now Khan Stage 1 continues to work on me, and I feel a mix of it all, free, indifferent, detached, upset. I can tell I’m purging.

I’m sure it would be faster if I didn’t have such a monster stack right night. But it is accomplishing what I wanted. My competitiveness is still high, but the sense of being less than, which leads to jealousy and comparison, is being eliminated. I also originally felt very free from the loss of this relationship I was in, now I feel kind of stuck and weak, like I should act on something, and I am not.

I do love Khan and I want to do longer runs with that and DR in the future. I’m also using to Khan Total Breakdown to get out of the way between me and actually acting on all the other big ambitions I have.

I am really enjoying the strategy of figuring out my next stack. Messing with ChatGPT a lot

[Azriel]

True Sell + Emperor: Daddy Stack Overview

Subliminal	Focus	Benefit in Sales
True Sell	Tactical persuasion, objection handling, closing deals	Skill, confidence, precision in pitch & follow-up
Emperor: Daddy	Mature masculinity, charisma, respect, sexual magnetism	Trust, authority, attraction, high-status client energy

Why This Stack Works

1. Sells With Presence, Not Pressure

• True Sell gives you the tools — persuasive language, handling objections, deal flow.
• Emperor: Daddy makes people want to say yes because they trust you, respect you, or are magnetized by you.
• You shift from “pushing” to “drawing in” sales.

2. Increases Trust and Influence Instantly

• The “Daddy” archetype implies protection, wisdom, control, and charisma.
• Clients may open up faster, agree more easily, and follow your recommendations without skepticism.
• Especially useful in coaching, consulting, real estate, or luxury sales — where trust is the close.

3. Higher-Value Buyers Respond Better

• Emperor: Daddy gives off a vibe of someone who knows their worth, doesn’t chase, and doesn’t rush.
• This makes it easier to attract premium buyers, close higher ticket offers, and set stronger boundaries (e.g., no chasing unqualified leads).

4. Mature, Composed Energy = Less Resistance

• Buyers naturally resist “salesy” energy — but Emperor: Daddy radiates assured calm and status.
• People lower their defenses, especially in 1:1 calls or DM-based sales.

How They Complement

Trait	True Sell	Emperor: Daddy	Combined Result
Pitch Clarity			Direct, smooth, confident sales talk
Objection Handling			Knows how to guide conversation
Emotional Influence			Builds rapport quickly
Trust & Respect Aura			Clients feel safe and impressed
Pricing Confidence			No fear asking premium prices
Authority Energy			Projects leader / mentor energy

Who Should Use This Stack?

Coaches, consultants, advisors
Sales pros dealing with luxury, lifestyle, or personal brands
Business owners or reps in high-trust industries (real estate, finance, health)
Anyone who wants to be trusted, respected, AND persuasive

When It’s Not Ideal

• If you’re new to sales, this stack is great but you’ll want to lean more on True Sell to develop the actual skill first.
• If you’re selling to fast-moving, casual, younger audiences, you might get more from Daredevil: True Social instead of Emperor: Daddy.

Bonus: Optional 3rd Stack Add-on

If you want to turbocharge this duo, add one of the following:

• R.I.C.H. → to amplify wealth energy and remove income blocks
• Daredevil → to add energy, boldness, and spontaneity to the stack
• Stark → for creative charisma + brand amplification

Summary

Feature	True Sell + Emperor: Daddy
Trust-building	(Charisma + confidence = quick rapport)
Closing power	(Sell like a tactician with a warm, magnetic vibe)
High-ticket sales fit	(Strong mentor/authority energy)
Transactional speed	(Slower but deeper influence; great for B2C or B2B)
Magnetic presence	(Buyers feel drawn to you, not pushed)

[Azriel]

Well I’ve been running Khan stage 1 the last two weeks.

Very slowly I’m at about 5 total minutes now broken into 30 second-1 minute chunks .

Initially it catapulted me into a sense of Freedom and power. This lead to clearing of lots of bad habit I had emotionally. This then led to a real heaviness. Now Khan Stage 1 continues to work on me, and I feel a mix of it all, free, indifferent, detached, upset, I can tell I’m purging.

I’m sure it would be faster if I didn’t have such a monster stack right night. But it is accomplishing what I wanted. My competitiveness is still high, but the sense of being less than, that leads to jealousy, comparison, is being eliminated. I also originally felt very free from the loss of this relationship I was in, now I feel kind of stuck and weak, like I should act on something and I am not.

I do absolutely love Khan and I want to do longer runs with that and DR in the future. I’m also using to Khan Total Breakdown to get out of the way between me and actually acting on all the other big ambitions I have.

I am really enjoying the strategy of figuring out my next stack. Part of me wants to have it all and optimize. Doing a lot of stack re-evaluating right now

[Azriel]

Khan vs. Emperor Daddy vs. Wanted Black for re-starting a relationship after she ended it?

ChatGPT said:

Ah, now that’s a high-stakes emotional mission—rekindling a relationship someone else ended. Between Khan, Emperor: Daddy, and Wanted: Black, you’re holding three very powerful—and very different—tools. Each radiates a unique masculine signature, and choosing the right one depends on:

• Why she ended it
• What your current dynamic is
• And what energy will naturally draw her back without chasing

Let’s break it all down:

High-Level Overview

Subliminal	Core Energy	Use Case in Breakup/Attraction Context
Khan	Kingly ambition, masculine evolution, irresistible sexual confidence	Best if the breakup involved her doubting your value, status, direction, or drive
Emperor: Daddy	Safe, powerful provider energy; grounded leadership and deep masculine emotional containment	Best if she wanted emotional maturity, safety, stability, or depth you weren’t showing
Wanted: Black	Raw primal desire, erotic confidence, animal magnetism, unapologetic sexual energy	Best if attraction faded, passion dulled, or she now sees you as “safe but not exciting”

Now, Deep Dive — Which Works Best Based on Scenarios:

If She Left Because:

• You lacked ambition, confidence, or direction
• You felt “lost,” indecisive, or low-status
• She stopped respecting you

Best Pick: → KHAN

Khan rebuilds you as a high-value, driven, unapologetic masculine force—one that’s evolving rapidly and doesn’t wait around to be chosen.

She’ll notice:

• Your ambition rising
• Your goals clicking into place
• A shift in sexual confidence and personal power

This draws her back through admiration + renewed intrigue.
Not because you’re chasing, but because you’re rising.

If She Left Because:

• You weren’t emotionally available
• You seemed immature or chaotic
• She didn’t feel safe, protected, or seen
• She said she “needs time” or “you’re not what she needs right now”

Best Pick: → EMPEROR: DADDY

Emperor Daddy upgrades your energy into that of a protector, builder, grounded masculine presence—without losing sexual edge.

She’ll sense:

• A deeper calm in you
• Less reactive energy
• More embodiment of leadership and clarity

This draws her back by creating emotional trust—especially if she was craving a real man, not just attraction.

If She Left Because:

• The spark faded
• She saw you as too “nice,” boring, or friend-zoned you
• She’s entertaining new attention and comparing you unfavorably
• You’ve been too available or too emotional post-breakup

Best Pick: → WANTED: BLACK

Wanted: Black radiates dangerous, dark, erotic magnetism. It reignites desire, bypasses logic, and plays the game of attraction through the body—not the mind.

She’ll feel:

• Unsettled (in a good way)
• Drawn in sexually
• Curious about the energy shift

This pulls her back through polarity and erotic fascination. Especially effective if you back off, stop explaining, and just let the energy do the talking.

Best Choice Based on Outcome You Want:

Goal	Best Subliminal
Reclaim self-worth, inspire respect, draw her through success energy	Khan
Rebuild trust, emotional safety, stability	Emperor: Daddy
Reignite desire, shock her back into attraction	Wanted: Black

Stack Ideas (if you’re open to it):

Goal	Stack
Emotional depth + seductive polarity	Emperor: Daddy + Wanted: Black
Seductive confidence + elite evolution	Khan + Wanted: Black
Total King Return	Khan + Emperor: Daddy (slow burn, emotionally heavy but powerful long-term)

Final Note:

No subliminal can “get her back” by force. But they shift your energy so that:

• She starts re-evaluating her decision
• She feels things around you she hasn’t felt in a while
• And most importantly… you become more than what she left.

That’s the real key.

LMAO - Emperor Daddy it would be, she felt I was completely unavailable and she wanted something serious (I was running a lot of Wanted Black when it started-that was my signature I was more a fun time and exploration) . I’d kind of moved on, but I’m going to be seeing her a fair amount coming up and would love to re-spark things. Originally I was torn cause we have different goals, but it’s all her choice anyway.

@Niles believes Wanted Black is the way to re-spark things and I find it’s so powerful as well. I’m not too familiar with Emperor Daddy. It actually helped on sales calls a bit with the guidance and nurturance, so I’ve been revisiting it to fill weakpoints.

Also the subtle horniess and libido was awesome on it. Helped with erections a lot too.

[praisetheurdtree]

@Azriel

LMAO - Emperor Daddy it would be, she felt I was completely unavailable and she wanted something serious (I was running a lot of Wanted Black when it started-that was my signature I was more a fun time and exploration) . I’d kind of moved on, but I’m going to be seeing her a fair amount coming up and would love to re-spark things. Originally I was torn cause we have different goals, but it’s all her choice anyway.

Primal Seduction is also potentially worth checking out. It’s super flexible and moldable, and I’ve personally used it to rekindle a flame that started on WB, and then faded when I changed stacks.

[Azriel]

Thanks man, great suggestions- PS is great but its TOO focused for me.

Re-kindling it is not a top priority, I do want to get really real with her about some stuff. I’d rather that than anything, honestly.

The other subs carry over into my main goals, and I’m almost ruling WB out because I’m interested in creating something real if anything. Not just another smash sesh, although the sex was amazing so that would be great.

[Azriel]

@praisetheurdtree did PS succeed where WB failed for you there?

[praisetheurdtree]

It’s appeared too. WB for me is very focused on attracting a very particular type of dynamic, and it tends to fail at moving beyond that dynamic.

Primal Seduction feels less powerful because it’s less directed at a particular outcome, it’s pretty open ended to screwing around or going serious. You get to choose, and you feel the power of your choice (autonomous control of relationship scripting), however, it’s a choice you gotta make.

So, long story short. Yes because PS, though less powerful, is more free and open ended, which means the user needs to put a little more work and focus in to make it work.

WB is pretty self-directed.

PS requires more direction.

If you want specifics, my current girl was rekindled after a single loop of my PS custom, and she calls me daddy, jokes about how she’s my “pet”, and jokes about how she wants to be my property…She’s even said other things that I don’t feel comfortable sharing because it’s so insane. Lol, so for me it seems like I get WB vibes if I choose them, but it doesn’t always just happen automatically.

The only other thing I would say is that WB didn’t stack well with SB for me, whereas PS stacks very well with SB for me.

[Azriel]

What’s the connection with the post?

Was it a jumping off point?

I don’t really follow that stuff anymore, but PUA, which started as The Game and Mystery method, evolved into all sorts of branches from self-improvement, to utter routine-based garbage, to spiritual tantra, to becoming a better man, to red pill.

Not sure how it stands now

I think a great deal of that stuff is very unhealthy- Zan Perrion was my favorite from that community

I think those characteristics - aloof, unattainable, dominant, mysterious- are valuable in courtship or nightlife to a degree, especially when they are genuine expressions of someone’s being, not as tactics or a one-size-fits-all method.

As far as chatGPT analysis

I think it’s very solid
Khan- status, ambition, up to something in life
Emperor Daddy-stability, availability,y and masculine calm assurance
Wanted Black- mystery, attraction spark- maybe that is more the prototype you’re concerned about?

I was not playing any games with the woman I was seeing, nor pretending to be perfect. I treated her like a really good person, and we had lots of deep, open conversations about challenges and otherwise. I was just not on the same page as her and didn’t give her the time she wanted because I didn’t know she wanted it! I did come across as unattainable only due to my huge focus and devotion to my career, and that was a mistake I learned from. I do wish I had a conversation when things were still intimate and I told her how much I really valued what we had, and how I would love it to become more.

I feel that ‘loss’ really blossomed my inner romantic again. Not a bad thing and I also feel really profoundly good on my own but available. I think from Spring 2023 to January 2025, I was not really available for anything more than sex and some intimate times.