I’ll add there is a lull, and easy, ‘niceness’ and even ‘overtalk’ that can be required in certain phone convos to ‘bake’ people- but it’s a fine line between that and supplication / overselling. It’s giving people a chance while they sit with uncertainty -still very directed. It’s just I’m seeing I can still trim it down.
I was thinking about destiny directive for sales…sometimes the best advice might not help the sale 
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Transcendental Connection? Sounds a lot like something that would help with. It’s in HoM as well. Most of the sales results @Jouissance got from HoM even if he didn’t mention it when he was using HoM was actually from the Transcendental Connection in that sub.
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This is a super inspiring journal I myself have to do sales as well soon :D. How would you say True sell have helped you?
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Transcendental connection, at least from my experience of it. Inside of house of Medici, is that it’s really powerful. I do notice I made deep connections with a lot of the people that I sold. I have a lot of those connections to this day. But I don’t think transcendental connection is the main reason why I was getting good sales results. And the reason that I think transcendental connection wasn’t a massive factor for that was that I also got incredible sales results off of just ecstasy of gold stage one stacked with limitless executive, with no alpha, or even any connection subliminals added on top. And I’m getting great sales results right now with new rich, which I don’t think has transcendental connection in it either. Based on what you were saying, Azriel, it sounds like your issue is less about connection, and more about assumption. You’re becoming a sales God, and starting to realize that all prospects are the same, but the downside of that is, you’re starting to realize that all prospects are the same, same, and one of the things that they all have in common is that they feel, and are,unique in their own way.
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@Jouissance, I wasn’t talking about all your sales results. I was talking about specifically the HoM sales results.
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Thanks man, I’ll give you a proper answer in the near future. It was key but part of many other factors that supported and even led
I think HOM manifestation relational and wealth, as wealth as wealth belief and -deal orientation social is huge in addition to Transcendental connection. At it’s best HOM and True Sell felt like the most powerfully reality distorting influence combo ever.
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I’m pretty set on going back to HOM old tech or not, it bar none has been the most sales sub for me and it’s not even close lol. Like I’ll have a couple solid weeks after not running it still, but then after switching to emperor/genesis mogul etc I just don’t even like sales lol.
I think the biggest thing is that it allows me to enjoy selling more, because I’m attracting better prospects, and enjoy making the connection/socalizing more lol. Without it I always run into the hardest people to talk to and end up getting burnt out, with HOM, at the very least I’m at least having enjoyable conversations.
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That’s a Emperor problem not a Genesis: Mogul problem. Solution? HoM + Genesis: Mogul.
Vessi I think you’re severely underestimating the power of HOM’s financial manifestations and how it’s leaps and bounds ahead of the manifestations inside of programs like Mogul and Emperor. TC is good but there’s just a pure wealth manifestation component of HOM that is hard to replicate anywhere else. You really do manifest good prospects… not prospects you connect with more, but prospects that literally have more money, right there on their intake form. There’s some fortune’s favorite + inner circle or SOMETHING, geared specifically to the goals of HOM - attracting ideal people/clients, wealth manifestations, people to forge deals and alliances with.
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You (the proverbial you) have to enjoy the conversations, and/or enjoy the business of selling- the ‘winning’ someone over. Sometimes I don’t like the ‘laying the brick’ of the convo but I love winning and selling enough to carry me through. I’ve found the better I feel about myself and my life the easier sales is because I’m clear and available for what the call is and isn’t. Also always standing in a mindset of qualifying someone, while not ‘looking for why they are not qualified’. They booked the call with me. (At least in my job so they want something…what do they want).
I have a mantra I come back to
- I love selling -sales is having someone get what they want
- I love having conversations with people
- I love being a top performer
I’ve had success with every major wealth stack but when HOM is it in I do my best.
So far I REALLY like Emperor: Will to Power for sales. I’m testing it today. That feeling of always being in power and not needing or pushing or overselling is incredible. It’s also helping me ‘pull away’ from people authentically. I sell really well normally-but its pure charm, charisma, influence, with some power…I leave a lot on the table where I ‘leak’ power- over pursue, over sell, over push, other reps sell with more of power/authority. The girl I was sleeping with in particular is master at it. I’m seeing where power dynamics effect a sale and feel more whole in myself on Emperor:TWTP so far. This may be the missing element in True Sell Black.
In what way are the convos hard? If there hard like unqualified leads who suck-fuck that. If there hard like super alpha or analytical people … something like Khan/ Emperor/ Emperor: Will to Power are great in my opinion. Have them respect you and see competency and then you can start to emotionally engage more potentially.
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Thoughts on selling
What I’ve found on TS Black and more and more so as I’ve progressed in sales… is I subtly give people every reason to GET OFF the phone they would need at every point. I also give price range early on in the call and don’t hide it until the end. After I get their pain and/or why I ask if they’ve taken an approach like ours before, and if they have not I say let me set a context - I anchor high with super expensive service were not like and then drop into our highest end service and say most people do- and give our normal range which is still 5-20K. If someone seems price sensitive I start at 5K, if not I start at 20K- always anchor high is what I’ve learned. Then if people have a strong reaction- I can manage that ahead of time or get off the phone. What they usually say, is ‘depends on the value I get’ or I’m on the low end, or the cleanly say ‘ok’ and I know we have a baller. If they seem ‘sticky’ or concerned, or lose presence based off the number I say ’ given that range would like to hear about what we do’. Two months ago I would have thought this was crazy idea, but I love it know- deal with the grabble of the price tag ahead of time, and let them sit with it and justify it as we talk or get them off the phone.
Hello Can you share your opinion about Alpha of Alpha? a review, like why did you run it, what did you get from it, Why do you think it was too much. I read a post of you you said Leader of Men was better.
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So I just submitted a support ticket and received a reference to this. Saying my question was essentially outside the purvey that SC support was equipped to answer and re-directed me here.
I’ve had SC support as well as Fire and Saint respond directly to my support tickets previously giving very meaning full answers. I’ll reiterate- customer support AS WELL as Fire and Saint directly. Customer support gave fantastic answers to complicated inquires and it was a place where people who know the scripts could respond to difficult questions.
I’m very disappointed that the complaining here on support tickets has now eliminated a more nuanced questions and expert response to meaningful or complicated questions. The samples in these acceptable inquires are so basic I don’t see any value in a consistent user of the forum or advanced user ever writing customer service outside of basic support. 'Will Genesis Mogul help me get a job"? But ce la vie
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While there is certainly sage advice from everyone here, and I intend to ask below, it is distinct than from people who KNOW what is in the script.
**My question was **
1. What would happen if Paragon was combined with Khan Black Stage 1?
Would it improve physical healing- how would the two synergize
2. What about Khan Black Stage 1 and LOTs
how would they synergize
3. What about Paragon and LOTS
how would they synergize?
thanks!
@Forum_Ambassadors or anyone what are your thoughts on these questions. Now I appreciate any feedback here but I will add I would hands down pay $100 for an in depth answer to specific questions from people who know and understand the subs and scripts. If SC had a consult function like this I would do it. I mean I could always PM Saint or Fire. I guess a lot of people do that though
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I literally got the same thing and just re-opened the ticket and said “these questions involve script specific info that no one on the forum has access to” and then removed the questions that COULD be answered on the forum - got a swift response
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I think you should have just gotten a generic answer instead - all subs synergize but the way they do so is unique to each person
Or the easiest way to get your answer is “does khan black have any effects on physical healing or shifting aesthetics?”
And then you’ll know if it was a meaningful synergization or just a simple “they won’t clash”
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Completely disagree on a personal level, for what might be best for the company I get it-your thinking like someone looking to scale a company. I’m looking for meaningful insight on something from someone who knows or understands the scripts.
This is good to note, please post your response when you get it.
conscious vent
Emperor Will to Power is out. Very cool sub but it doesn’t gel with my current situation or cycles from the test run. Like PCC-its too stoic and withholding and it’s not contributing at the level is needed to stay in my stack. Will be reintroducing HOM back soon.
Feeling a lot of malaise lately. And it’s not performance related.
I switched back to NR last week and ran it with TS Black V2 and a smidge of Emperor 5 minutes during the sales week and 10 minutes Saturday night post sales week.
Had a very solid week just shy of the $50K bonus tier- it sucked to not break through- but the week felt smooth and powerful. I really like a touch of Emperor for sales- it add ‘all about business’ and makes it easy to deal with difficult and powerful people. TR addition seemed to rev things back up. Will do a full analysis soon on subs and results over the last 8 weeks I think that will help me pick cycles
Initial thoughts is absolutely nothing stand out in adding NWE to TS Black Custom- this is my second week on it and -honestly I feel less like a ambitious driven top performer and way more chill with a mixture of sedation and disinterest in what I am doing. Perhaps still acclimating to it but it misses the savy and bite of the previous True Sell and I’m very suprised at how different they are. I actually feel significantly worse emotionally since introducing TS Black V2 so I’m wondering if its recon from NWE.
I attribute the smoothness of last weeks success more to Emperor than TS V2. My sales have been very consistent since Emperor. This is my first week without Emperor and I find myself very Frustrated again.
I want to do 50K+ weeks consistently. I need more consistent manifestation of high quality leads again. And the big fish leads. I’m taking a step back and reconsidering my whole stack again on how to create this. I’m hoping is another plateau I’m about to bust through… both manifestation and skill wise.
October was insane-it felt the universe was warping and supporting my goals, while my skill was unleashed and super powerful. That was mostly NR and TS Black V1 with a smidge of HOM.
Lately I feel a bit like a dud with my skill…I’m on rote mode or waiting for the right leads.