I don’t know if this is exactly accurate. I have no doubt its an IDEAL title for that. But purely for that maybe not…it seems to have a positive effect on any career/business people are working on.
It certainly has me looking for new income streams that are purely self generated, but it’s also making sales easier and easier when I’m ‘On’ . It does have me wanting to shift process in my company that leads to too much friction if I fully go there.
After 3 weeks of absolutely crushing it, my last week was a real challenge. I pulled through with a decent performance, not what I had been doing but I worked 3 days less than usual and I got 3 large sale refunds. It was like the energy I was in, what I was creating/ manifesting was not stable. I’m on a washout currently. Will be creating an EOG/HOM sub this week, as well as a physicals custom and will update it with NWE on 11/11. I’m happy to pay the $50 to update. I want to have samples of pre-NWE and NWE.
I had some amazing calls, and the experience of multiple people turning around and refunding-especially after the depth of some of those calls initially felt incredibly demoralizing- a very non-business response to the whole experience and out of character for but it had me seeing the value in people feeling really good as customers on the process. It also had me see the value of really caring about people’s experience in full. It also had me see how ‘wonky’ people are and to fully address all their nature is important part of business and sales. In any case it seems I also dip before massively growing again. So looking forward to seeing what’s next
One thing with sales and as you know is you have to not overthink it as it one refund doesn’t mean it’s your fault or it’s the sub who caused that. It could purely be from the customer not liking the product or getting something that wasn’t what they expected.
You could be the best closer in the world and have the most powerful sub and you will still get refunds. Nothing to do with you, it’s just part of sales. See what lessons lie in it and improve. If the offer is bad which I don’t think is the case here then change offers. If you overpromise but the offering is underdelivered then maybe the way you talk about the offer should be changed.
All this to say that your not the problem nor is the sub. Some people are just meant for the offer your selling for and that will happen no matter which offer you do.
Also on this topic which I had a convo about with a friend a few days ago. I was once a sales call (me being the potential customer) and the closer was selling an offer that was so good that everyone wanted to join no matter the price (no joke it was one of the best offer in the industry anyone has ever seen and still is and their closing like crazy). Offer was amazing I was ready to buy if I got the price but they gave me such a bad closer who was legit high during the sales call. Of course I didn’t buy it.
All this to say that if you have an amazing offer then refund or no refunds you will still succeed pretty well at that company and not every sales call will be a deal closed.
Its true, its par for the course, and actually a sign of a better closer. That said something in my energy definitely contributed to this manifesting this way. With all the manifesting modules I have I have to generate certainty and be responsible for my emotional well being and have it distinct than business. When they collide wonkyness can ensue.
Also practically speaking- I did certain things that made them less reliable closes, I saw that in debriefing my performance.
Refunds don’t come before the service is used with us. It’s not about there experience at all, it’s about there left with uncertainty about moving forward and/or another objection or concern came up. I salvage people all the time who had a double take, in these cases I think there was definitely some lessons to be learned.
Thanks V
That’s fair then yeah at least you know them now.
Ohh it’s a service based offer. That makes more sense I thought it was like a coaching or course type offer in which refunds happen when the person insn’t satisfied with the product they purchased. This makes more sense.
Here’s what I’m curious about. Would all the manifestation modules and NWE and everything in my subs and stacks support high lead quality and consistency. Shouldn’t it theoretically it be the best of the best. My performance has always been from decent lead quality, occasional fortune and high levels of skill and hustle. I’m wondering what I’m doing in my stack or conscious creation that has me not consistently have just the highest quality leads. This is what I’ve been looking to solve with manifestation. I care less when my performance equalizes, but I would love to see what would have me consistently manifesting, generating a ridiculous abundance of the highest lead quality possible. I think something in me needs to resolve/ heal before this happens. Maybe this questioning is part of it happening!!
Conscious venting
I don’t know what’s happening, if its from removing HOM or EOG fade being the driver but not seeing what I want. I’m on NR and TS black this week predominantly. I had taken 4 day washout but it’s like my own fire absolute insane ability and energy when I first introduced NR is dried up. I’m running more TS black so could be that. Just got to wait and see how the week turns out.
Feeling pretty frustrated and disappointed and fed up currently but I find this usually proceeds the next leap.
Definitely from removing HOM and from overexposing to NR.
NR is really not for sales at all. NWE is, sure, but if you removed HOM, what is NWE even modifying and why are you running a SaaS-Model Entrepreneurship title?
Sure there’s True Sell in your stack for sales, which is more about alpha communication than true wealth… although there’s both… and you have RICH, which you’re modifying through NWE and replacing with NR for the time being…
But NR and True Sell both lack general “Alpha” scripting. Almost none in NR, and very specific use-case alpha scripting in True Sell, from what I understand… yes it’ll make you an alpha at sales but it’s HOM that makes you an alpha at life. It’s HOM that has the insane money manifesting. It’s HOM that has the work ethic to make that consistent and the deal scripting and the “i am made of money” mindset.
THAT’s what NWE should be modifying to get the most bang for your buck.
I think you should drop NR for HOM, and run 1-3 minutes of NR once per week on a friday so that NWE is still modifying your stack, but NR isn’t taking up space.
I’m inclined to agree. I think for my emotionally stability element HOM helps a lot too.
I think its crazy thought NR, True Sell, RICH wouldn’t be sufficient for effective sales numbers and wealth manifestation. I mean last week was still better than average, this week is ok so far. My two monster weeks on NR I barely ran HOM maybe a couple minutes each time.
NWE is still modifying RICH and True Sell in custom. NR also has RICH in it as well, pure money manifestation.
I do think elements of non NWE were reasonable for my insane success as well. I’m definitely adding some HOM back in and have to work out a gameplan for next customs. Which I’ll get your take on when complete.
Thanks @Jouissance
I’ve been thinking more and more the value of an alpha in business sub. Like EOG with Alpha oriented around business, confidence, learning, sales, negotiations, fundraising.
What do you think of destiny directive and Treasure Finder module for sales?
Lol I saw this right after I woke up and thought the new tittles dropped 
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Destiny directive I talked about in the past a bit, in my opinion I don’t like to do on coaching/advice giving on sales calls. I try as much as possible to stick to questions, mirroring/re-iterating what they said, and stories/metaphors to change beliefs. But, depends what industry you are in. From what o understand about tech it is a lot of coaching and more consultative on solutions they hadn’t thought about so it could have its place in a field like that.
No experience with either though so couldn’t tell you first hand. I would probably wait until NWE puts out a module pack assuming there will be better options then either of these two for a custom.
@Azriel If you haven’t used LBFH yet for sales I can’t recommend it enough. I’ve been experimenting with it the past week, and the results have been pretty incredible.
Completely takes you out of your own head so you can fully focus on what the other person is saying, and the right things just seem to come out of your mouth without thinking. People much more open to talking, has that same deep connection feeling as HOM, increases internal conridende. I’m just running (1-3 minute loops along side my two main titles and have gotten a ton of benefit from it.
hahahah, that’s a cool feeling
I totally agree here, its double edged sword, generally getting too ‘coachy’ on sales cales derails things, occasionally a life changing piece of advice totally opens thing up though. A dead sale today I I coached someone and it totally brought the sale back to life. Never coaching for a solution to the issue they came for, but coaching for something about them that is limiting there ability to make the sale. In my case the woman today had a habit of being to accommodating thinking she was being easy going.I told her she was actually compromising herself and she didn’t need to settle. It gave her a shot of confidence and aliveness and we were back in business.
I’m ordering a custom tonight without NWE, I’ll reiterate if I need. Just want to be able to sample both
I have not, I’ll test that next week. I could definitely use something like that, I’m desperate this week and have become quite ruthless, in my head, and judgmental.
What are your main two titles now?
Honestly I’m fxxing annoyed I can’t keep my level of success up without HOM. If it is that-still not clear. I wanted to rotate it out of my stack even though I love it. It’s also depressing to think how much subs are effecting sales even though there bringing out my best. Part of me hoped I had just gotten that good. Who knows could just be in a bad cycle before the next break through.
My coach says I hate routine so much I’ll find a way to break consistency even when its success 
Maybe you’re just still learning what HoM has to teach you.
Something about where you shift your priorities and attentional focus when running it, maybe.
Once you grasp that, you may be able to achieve similar effects without running it.
I suspect it’s something similar to the effect that Niles describes from Love Bomb For Humanity. Slightly reducing the volume on the Self Focus and increasing the volume on the Other Focus and Systemic Focus. Finding the balance between intense goal-orientation and allowing/letting go.
Threw my Saturday plans out the window and ended up doing a 7 hour shift. Closed $23K to make for a decent week. Super happy about that but overall way to much of a struggle. Then Saturday night ran a couple minutes of BDLM and went partying I’ll do a full report but I’m a social super star on my stack with a punch of sexuality. Not as much sexuality as I want. I think BDLM adds a fantastic element to social interactions though. It really is big dick energy sub. It was a magical night.
Couple things I’m seeing
I’m driving to work right now haha
Give me a while and I’ll update it on my journal, but here’s a peek 
You dog always the tease
But …I am fxxx pumped looking
at the image
can’t wait
I can’t understand this at all.
You’re turning “I’m so successful with HOM, YAAAAAY” into “I’m so unsuccessful without HOM, booooo”
Like how funny would it sound if I said “man I’m so fxxxing annoyed that I need 8 hours of sleep a night to be absolutely amazing at my job?”
No right? You’d just say “get the sleep then” and I’m saying “listen to HOM then”
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