Ascension-Emperor?

Questions and Comments
#1

So I’m strongly debating about which one of these is the better option for myself and what I’m looking for, so I thought I could see what experienced others might have to say. To give you a good idea of which one might work better I should probably tell you more about what I’m looking for and where I’m at. Honestly, business and financial success is super important to me in my life, and I do currently own a business so I was kind of leaning more towards emperor, (especially cause the romance benefits on that sound nice as well). However, from what I’ve seen I cant help but feel like ascension just seems like it’s more popular and I feel like confidence, self esteem and being alpha could be in my way so ascension does have that appeal to me.

Another thing I was thinking is if I do go with ascension perhaps after awhile I could maybe throw in R.I.C.H. Ultima for the financial aspect of it, but I’m kind of getting ahead of myself and was just throwing ideas out there with that.

What do you guys think? P.S. I wasn’t sure if Questions and Comments was an appropriate thread for this, I’m still new to all of this so forgive me if there was a better thread I could’ve posted this on
Thanks!

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#2

I’m assuming you’re new to subclub and the forum. If you’re not, I’m sorry.

Ascension is inside Emperor already so it’s not a question of which would you prefer, it’s a question of… do you want a super light script that only focuses on inner/outer power? Or do you want an all encompassing sub that you can run to cover all your bases.

Emperor is a much bigger track in terms of what it offers… so it has more benefits to give but they take longer to kick in. That’s the downside. Results are slightly slower and recon can be higher if you have any difficulty processing the changes.

Think of it like Ascension is filling a 1L cup… a bit of sexual benefits, a lot of inner and outer confidence scripting, that’s it.

Emperor is filling a 6L cup… massive sexual benefits, emotional, physical, wealth, manifestation, intelligence, and much more. It’s a bigger cup but it’ll take longer to fill.

I do think this is a great idea.

Ascension + RICH would kind of be a substitute for the lack of wealth in Ascension.

To give you context, I own a business and listened to 6 months of Ascended Mogul until ZP came out. When Mogul ZP came out, I switched to Mogul ZP and LOVED THAT! So I think you should start there. And then I listened to emperor, and LOVED THAT TOO!

But now I find that sometimes all I want is the pure wealth drive, especially when I’m not doing sales and need the social dynamic, so I listen to Mogul for a few weeks, then I listen to Emperor for a few weeks, depending on what the next few weeks of my business looks like. If I need inspiration, to work lots of overtime, or to make major improvements to the business, I listen to Mogul. If I want to work steadily and consistently, cover all my bases, improve as a person and a business owner simultaneously, I listen to Emperor.

Ascended Mogul isn’t out yet for ZP but it will be at some point soon, and so you should go for that instead of Ascension, for the time being.

But as a business owner I think if you’re to buy a subliminal right now your best bet is to buy Mogul, NOT Ascension. Then when you enhance your stack to include Emperor, you’ll still have the wealth component because Mogul is inside emperor as well, but you’ll also get all of Ascension and even more alpha/social scripting.

So…

I’d say start with mogul and rich and then upgrade to Emperor and rich, and play mogul if you feel you want the extra productivity push… but if you want to take that advice and start with ascension instead of mogul, feel free!

However, when Ascended Mogul comes out, you’ll definitely want to get that.

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#3

Great info @Billions! What are your thoughts on Mogul + Emperor + Rich it has a bit of the emperor in it, but emphasises wealth.

#4

For sure.

Some fellow users and I find that RICH once a week is all it takes to get results. I had tested out the idea that, like Invictus documented, if RICH really does work better on rest days than on listening days, then it’s likely that it’ll give amazing results even if you listen to it less frequently.

So, I personally listen to RICH once every 3 listening days, and I see a big boost in sales from it. Pretty massive.

Then, the other question, what do I think about Mogul + Emperor. I LOVE it. That’s my stack. I alternate between the two because I’d prefer to keep my stack tight.

So my recommendation would be start with just Mogul + RICH for a while and see how you like that. Get a full cycle of Mogul + RICH in before testing out emperor. Maybe even test out two cycles if you really love mogul, because honestly, if you love a sub, why change to another one? You have a whole lifetime ahead of you to try out subs, but if you love any one particular sub and it’s helping you, stick to it.

But after one or two cycle of Mogul, then I’d recommend you switch it out for Emperor, so now you’re listening to Emperor + RICH for a full cycle, no Mogul.

From there, you’ll know the differences between the two, Mogul will have prepared you for Emperor a bit, and you’ll know what to do. Maybe you’ll listen to Mogul 75% of the time for more business, Emperor 25% of the time to balance it out with social/sexual scripting. Maybe the reverse, 75% emperor, with 25% mogul to give it that extra push.

Start with two subs for now and re-evaluate after 45 days or so

IMO it’s better to listen to two subs than three, but, if one of them is an infrequent booster, and if you resonate with all three of the subs, three is okay, but even a lot of experienced users and @SaintSovereign himself says they only listen to two because three feels like too much. So start with just two per cycle and see what works for you!

#5

Hey, thank you so much for your help! I might just take your advice on mogul, so you think that regular mogul is a good place to start and would be a smoother ride than emperor? Thanks again!

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#6

Same recommendation: if you have one goal, don’t overcomplicate and just tackle this objective with a focus sub.

Mogul keeps on giving, it is a sub that tackle both mindset, beliefs, "wealth"aura, manifestation, productivity. Don’t go to emperor if you don’t need it and if you are clear of what you need : financial.

I even think it is the best sub to to run to for finance. period. because it just does that.

On top of that Mogul gives me a feel good, confidence, winning mindset. I also dress pretty well with Mogul :slight_smile:

@lrw and maybe @Billions I think mentioned it, I also noticed it I have a respectability aura running Mogul. Not sure if it is respectability or wealth aura, but I have some anecdotes where I get special treatments while running Mogul.
Just run Mogul because you are clear what you want to tackle.

Mogul makes me a financial winner, kind of chill and focused when needed to be not sure how to explain. And I still have headspace to do other stuff in my life.
Ascended Mogul QV2 makes me very productive but not very chill, not really nice, and takes my mind off women, romance or stuff. I dont like the way the Ascension is mixed with Mogul in Ascended Mogul QV2.

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#7

I talk to business owners a lot, and on mogul, they were all telling me how much they like me and have never respected a marketer so fast after one call. So, i was specifically getting more respect from wealthy people. It didnt have an effect on average income people for me… maybe because I also respected the wealthy ones more, and because they have a wealthy mindset, they can identify and appreciate i also have one.

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#8

Is this true for the New Emperor too? Or is it a completely new scripting?

#9

IIRC, that is all a thing of the past.
Each sub has its individual script. No X is contained in Y.
Of course they have similar topics and therefore scripting might be quite similar, even identical in parts, but this “Emperor contains Mogul+SSX+XYZ-Modules” is a thing of the past.

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