Continuing here the discussion from another thread because we came out of topic. We were discussing that everything that happens in our life is our responsibility because every person is a projection of parts of ourselves.
The question seems to be based on this assumed fact. Why do you believe we are born pure hearted and unlimited? Is it from something you read, does it just feel right to believe in it or is it something you experienced yourself?
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One of my therapists once told me that, but actually it is what I feel to be right.
I also experienced myself of being very pure hearted as a small child and due to very traumatic experiences became more and more “black hearted”. Until one day I started recovering and came back close to pure hearted as of today.
It feels right to me that when we are born we are also unlimited. But you might ask, so why can’t we talk, walk, do Math calculations, etc?
Because we are born with our brain in a state of blank memory, like a computer that has just been restarted and has an empty cache, but the operating system is there, the DNA.
Our DNA may define from the moment we are born if we are good at Maths for example. Our DNA may come from the parents, or it might just represent our current state of evolution when we decided to incarnate in this life on Earth.
Before being on Earth we might have been in another galaxy, or we might be reincarnating on Earth several times until we reach some threshold of evolution and we continue our evolution in another planet.
But under this theory it would be impossible for us to project any bad thing into anyone, unless I attribute it to the fact of the experience of being born being already traumatic (separation from the Mother), and maybe that’s how our “evil” and “troubles” start. But if we are pure hearted and unlimited when we are in the Mother’s womb, living the fact of being born as something traumatic shouldn’t happen for a start, nor bad things happening to us while inside the Mother’s womb.
That’s why I posted the question.
I hope I didn’t leave you like this 
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I think when we’re born we have no filter or point of reference, the mind/subconscious just absorbs a bunch of things and some things get associated with “bad” and negative feelings (like what you said about being born, separation from the mother etc.) and others with the opposite. We have no capacity to interpret all this stuff so yeah negative projections probably do occur naturally as well as positive ones. Idk I could be wrong, maybe I missed something.
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Child was 9 month in womb, downloading all patterns from mother, including ancestral.
This patterns, like archetypes, conditioning child’s reactions, not content. They are also called somatic patterns that are not yet activated before ego structures start to evolve.
Before ego structures fully developed, child psyche is blended with his/her mother’s psyche.
Mother is pure hearted and unlimited?
One more thing: during pregnancy, everything mother feels is being registered by child “I feel” even thought there is no “I” in first place.
So, in conclusion: yes, child’s early reactions are seems like pure and unlimited before somatic patterns (and then ego structures) kick in.
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Hi, i wondered something about this and i’d like ask something , you said: during pregnancy, everything mother feels is being registered by child.
So if mother had sex how would have effect the child? is it purely bad or is it depend on circumstances and to peopl
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Its good question. Can’t say that its bad or good for sure.
But what I know in my practice is that sexual feelings during pregnancy is not the first time child feels/carries it.
Conception, sex, during which baby was being conceived is energetically programmed into child’s energy system.
You’ll be surprised but the feelings that future parents experienced during conception when being transfered to child’s system and quite affect many if not all aspects of his/her life.
So… sex during pregnancy. Child feels it but don’t understands it yet. It can affect child two-fold. Which is good and what bad, it depends on child.
Even traumas are experienced differently by each person. One experience for one person is “nothing special” , while for another “its a disaster, worthy long writes in reddit”.
Edit: got a thought: if, for example, no sex during pregnancy to “not to arose sexual feelings in child” when mother’s “sexual dissatsifaction” is what child will feel as his/her own feelings. Of course, without conscious awareness.
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I don’t know this things too much but thing that it depends on child whether is good or bad not make sense too much for me.
Well, lets add new dimensions like soul, if you believe in it.
The general idea, we can’t say for sure is it good or bad.
For example, you can avoid sex with your wife during pregnancy but there is no way to be sure how it affects.
Child is not born completely tabula rasa as was thought in the past. Somatic patterns which greatly affect the child will show its effects later.
Of course, upbringing and environment affects greatly but its not the only source.
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Okay maybe you can’t know at this situation because you avoided, but let’s say you had positive experience with your wife, you have healthy sexual relationship, would you say this effect the child badly again or you can’t know
Lets say that there are positive and negative emotions.
Positive emotions induced by endorphins and etc.
Negative emotions induced by adrenaline and etc.
Traumatic reactions & experiences are connected with negative emotions.
Make your own conclusions 
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I’d separate those two qualities.
Are we all born pure-hearted? or is there such a thing as innate evil?
Anyone who has raised children knows that some of them can be naughty little devils. 
Is everyone born unlimited? Are all limitations learnt?
Does this also apply to those born with physical or genetic disabilities? 
Don’t look for definite answers as these are forever ongoing debates in philosophy.
Destiny vs Free Will, Nature vs Nurture, Good vs Evil (Morals), etc.
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What are you on about ? right now you are unlimited. The only difference is now that you think more before reacting.
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When we are born we are innocense itself non duality. We don’t even know what’s our body and what is not and get confused by why it hurts when i bite my foot but not when I bite the cuddly animal.
Then as we grow up we go into Egoic mind everything is mine or for me.
But there’s not much difference from now and then except you have more projections good and bad ones which you are using to navigate the physical world.
You most likely also have limits you put on yourself which is making you not feel unlimited. But that too is a projection or introjection.
Slowly as you do more waking up and growing up practices you get into a more unlimited you but that too is nothing to rush.
If you get too spiritually awakened too fast you have trouble functioning in the world. I did I mostly just bliss out all day coaching is easy to me.
But the actual logical business stuff is HAAAAARD.
Yea I have completely lost my thread. Point is you are unlimited now
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Gotta be honest, my answer to this question is
- Are we pure hearted when we are born?
No idea. Maybe? Some babies are born with psychopathy ya know.
- Are we unlimited when we are born?
Probably no since if we did, we’d destroy planets just by thinking of them as soon as we’re born - so we’re clearly not. We are also literally limited to our human bodies.
My question to this question is does it even matter?
What matters to us right now is whether we can pure hearted and unlimited right now.
To me the answer to that seems a bit clearer, we can be at least as close to pure hearted as possible right now.
And learn to be unlimited (or as close as possible that we can be) by releasing the shackles we place on ourselves.
That to me is more practical and meaningful, I feel.
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If with “We” you are pointing to the body/mind I’d say no, it’s very well limited in its manifestation.
But then if you go deep at their source… yes they are unlimited and pure (they are even now though, so I’m not sure it qualifies as an answer to your question).
In my experience the more you look for Truth the more you’ll find paradox, the mind is not fit for paradox and tries to find an answer that is black OR white 
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Children exibit a strong desire for immediate gratification. They are egocentric and continuously test the boundaries placed on them by their parents. Their view of the world is I don’t give a toss about what others think so long as I am happy. When I was 9 years old my father was shouting at me for something I did wrong. I ran into the other room grabbed the air rifle my father had and I ran back aimed the rifle at his head and shouted “Continue to shout at me and I will kill you”. Of course I was a child and I never shot my father however I was showing traits associated with psychopathy. So I really do not believe that children are born with a pure heart. However they evolve overtime mimicking their parents and the people around them to become a particular person with specific traits better or worse.
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