hey im curios if any has ran any subs without taking action and found some astonishing results
its just a theory that i have in mind and im curios
im doing my best with subs to take action, but i have a theory in mind and i thought i would ask,
of course that doesn’t involve listening to become a billionaire sub and thinking you will get a deposit of billions of dollars when you listen long enough
any of you found any results ?
This rather depends on what subs and how much inaction.
When you listen to a sub it reinforces a neural pathway in your brain. So therefore repeated listening make that pathway stronger.
Which is actually the answer.
However, to put some meat on the bones lets say you run AM. Even if you stay at home, all alone ,never interact with anyone else etc this will have some effect probably of making you slightly more confident within yourself depending on where you start from.
But if you run PS and also stay at home it won’t get supermodels breaking down your door to rape you.
If a tree falls over in a forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
I also wonder the same thing.
What i wonder is if someone listen to lets say true social for the last 6 monthes and didnt go out much(covid lockdowns etc), what would happen once he does go out?
Does the brain rewire itself to the subliminal goals even without external stimulation? it’s obvious that events and experience is what change us, but maybe the repeated affirmations does change your core beliefs even without the external stimulation because it repeats so many times so the belief systems shift independantly of your previous experiences.
I believe this would be an interesting experiment to test.
Definitely. There was a time when I couldn’t take action. Nonetheless, there were results. Of course, some results are unattainable without taking action, but parts of the script would still work. Rooting out false beliefs and instilling new ones, ready to launch soon as the opportunity arises.
Your mindset is being affected. Thoughts changing, view on things shifting and so on.
Also, reconciliation can be quite messy on such cases. Some titles will urge you to do things in order to execute but you’re not complying; and you’d get the ‘whip’
Healing subs and cognitive subs are the best IMO if you won’t be taking action
The only limit is your own imagination. When it comes to either Results or Action, this is true.
The subliminal is not mind-control. It’s inspiration. Like an incredibly powerful muse, who delivers amazing concepts to your mind. Your mind responds to this inspiration by creating new realities in your internal and external life.
YOUR MIND makes the results. NOT the subliminal.
So, you can also use your imagination to get creative about taking action. It’s just feeding your own mind after all.
Daydreaming can be action-taking.
Writing e-mails or letters can be action taking.
Developing a plan can be action-taking.
Getting together with friends or a mastermind group to brainstorm can be action-taking.
I think that if you can’t think of any meaningful way for a particular program to be a part of your life; if you really, really feel that way; it’s probably a good time to run a different program.
That’s not some hard-and-fast rule or anything.
Just a thought. (and I may be in Qv2 growth and recon right now, so take it with a grain of salt: my favorite recipe.)
I think subs are still beneficial (to a stent) without action. Although taking action is always positive in the long term, short term it may be trickier.
In the short term, every action may result in positive reinforcement (when things turn out well) or negative reinforcement / reconciliation (when things don’t go as expected and are in conflict with the messages the sub is feeding you).
Because of this, I think the subs will still work when you don’t take action. Even though it would all be in your head, it will always be a positive message and that will make you mentally stronger and better prepared to tackle the real world once you decide to take action.
I’ve shared this example before and I think it applies here as well. There was a study on the effectiveness of visualization for improving free throws in basketball. They divided the test subjects into three groups: one that practiced free throws, another that just used visualization, and the control one doing nothing.
The group that only used visualization improved almost as much as the group who practiced throws every day for an hour. Visualization is not the same as using subs, of course, but I would assume the same applies.
Having said that, without action subs can only take you so far. The main thing I’d worry about is that, without action, you won’t have the right channels for manifesting results in place (e.g., how are you going to climb the corporate ladder if you don’t have a job).
I realized recently that I was focusing too obsessively on Action.
I realized that I needed to relax because my attitude about Action was bleeding into Lust for Results.
I got the following messages:
Trust the Process.
Don’t worry about Action. Just take action.
When I was running Emperor I used to get recon when I was staying at home and only when I went out did I deal with it straight away, it was enough to see people reacting to my presence and although it was passive it was like taking action towards some goals of the program.
This is a great point. Worrying about action implies a conscious effort and that would distance yourself from the mindset the sub is trying to build. Just taking action or “allowing action to happen” would be letting the sub take over and that should be the right way to execute the program. Thanks for that!
I got recon on Emperor just from not working. Every weekend it was the same shit. I think the program is urging you to go after your goals, so an action such as “sitting on your ass doing nothing” will trigger recon.
Taking action is only a reminder for people who think they can just run say EoG and get rich effortlessly but still EoG would cause identity and other internal shifts.
I like your wording here even better. I think it describes where I am right now.
Thank you 
I dont speak for all sub producers but one sub (not subclub) kinda sorta forced me to take action it took me couple of months after I stopped listening and has money flowing in to realise that HOLY SHIT… i was listening to money sub few months back… wow… i completely forgot… the weird action i took and the money i made actually came from the sub i had listened so and so weeks ago… damm
i 100% attribute this to subs coz the money-making action i took was quite out of the way for someone like me…
so this can happen… subs are crazy man
let things flow, do action do what you think is gonna help you evolve and that will do it!!!
flow like water
i agree this tech is super weird and fun and funny also how it can change you
This is a great question @Budewr.
This reminds me of my practice with meditation and the balance needed between intention, effort, and letting go.
The process isn’t usually linear and some of the biggest strides in development can happen while doing things that are seemingly unrelated.
How many loops did you run on that? How long was the sub?
1 loop = 1 hour long.
i used to put on earphones while sleeping at night.
it was not a subclub
i have a question about said product.
would you mind dming me?
DREAMS doesn’t really require any action, but it def works