I’m sorry I meant you may have been in a depressed state relative to your normal state, perhaps a low season. This could cause you to lose taste for a lot of things like music
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Yes. Your perspective is valid.
But also recognize that you are not speaking in a vacuum. You’re making public statements on a public forum that is read by many people.
Since you raised your questions here (instead of, for example, asking them directly to customer support), they become public questions and public statements. This means that they’ll also affect people other than just yourself.
Nothing wrong with that. It’s actually one purpose of the forum. But it also means that your statements and questions will then be handled in ways that best help the entire forum and not just you.
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no worries man im sorry if im reply feels a bit not friendly, i didnt mean that
but i still dont think so because once i quit using my stack, music sparked again and things i enjoy came back,
have a good one friend!
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thanks malkuth
im not sure if my custom is ZP v2 or not since i made the order in March 17, 2022
and the file says “ZP”
and also ive re downloaded RM ZPv2 just now and the mp3 file doesnt have ZPv2 on it, just says ZP experimental
so i assume all ZP files are automatically ZP2
lol i think im going in circles
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Just my two euro cents. If you wanna try subs again do not use any custom. They are quite energy taxing more than normal subs, at least in my case. And since you said, you lost motivation, etc. It could be because you were tired, or overexposed from a custom so I would advise just starting again with 2 or maybe 3 regular subs.
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Guy got impressive results with Paragon! Hope you find your way mate
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Hi @Budewr ,
I just re-read your original post all the way back up there 
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I realized that I never really saw what your goals or projects are.
The post says that you were waking up super-tired (which could indicate processing-related reconciliation) after playing the subs before bed.
I think you already have got a strategy for this issue: you’ll play them earlier in the day. In the morning or day time. Eventually, i predict that you’ll probably be able to play them at night again. But that’ll probably be after you begin to experience a flow of results again.
You also said that after playing RM ZP for about 4 to 5 months, you never found any tangible results.
That’s the more interesting statement. It requires further elaboration.
I have not used Renaissance Man yet. When I imagine how it might affect someone, I actually think of @SaintSovereign. Creative ideas and creative expression in a diverse range of channels and modalities.
There’s the ongoing creative output of the subliminals themselves. That already includes about 20 different avenues of expression from Saint and Fire. Marketing. Design. Product lines. Promotion. Audience Engagement. and so on.
Then there are all of these other creative avenues: fiction-writing, music writing, video-game creation, and so on.
That’s how I imagine Renaissance Man expressing itself.
What are you looking for from RM? It’s a flexible title that can be quite different for each person.
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This line too is a clue that there may be more going on in your story.
Why and how is music the only thing keeping the world together? (No judgment on that. This is a crazy-ass world sometimes. But I’m mainly asking about in your case.)
I’m guessing that if you can address that, you’ll probably also have identified what is influencing the subliminal processing.
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This is one of the most hilarious posts I ever seen! Thanks from the depths of my heart 
I think listening to subs during sleep is a bad idea since sleep is a period of deep rest and processing.
It’s no surprise if you feel tired when adding input while sleeping.
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I can’t tell you when I stopped listening to 15 minutes loops, but as soon as it was an option to listen less I did it. 15 was brutal for me during the early days of ZP. I’d wake up the next morning incredibly heavy and like I had to fight to get out of bed. Throughout the day I’d be spaced out, clumsy, and whenever I got the chance I’d have to lay in bed to recover energy. I’ve always been an outlier with the subs and my response to them, back in the Qv2 days i was even messing around with listening less. But I feel like the suggestions here have calibrated more towards including people like me.
My point being really listen to your body and adjust your sub usage based off that. You might do a hell of a lot better on microloops. Start small and work your way up. Also in my experience it’s best to use the third day after listening to gauge if the exposure was too much. So day of, rest day, listening day <— this is the one where you can tell if your previous microloop needs to go down or up. That rest day can be sneaky and make me think I’m ready for another loop the next day but I’m still processing.
I know that’s not super intuitive, but my biggest suggestion is don’t push it with the subs. It won’t give you a breakthrough. It’s been a learning curve for me with understanding the growth is not on the listening days.
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Hey thanks for input, although i thought its the other way around, since name embedding as I remember make the process easier and less recon
i lost my custom file anyways and I contacted support
So ill be runing Ascension and RM tmw micro looping them
But is 1m cool? Whats the consensus here like how do i know if its good or i should go for like 2m or 5m
Thanks for input
1 min is fine. Start small and work your way up. You can even start at 30s if you want, yeah I know seems ridiculous. But I’ve found different subs get different exposure amount based on the content.
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my recommendation would be to check out Genesis
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1 minute loops are totally appropriate if that’s what you want to do, the general concensus now is start off slow, and work up to find your sweet spot. For some people that’s 1 minute, for some it’s 5 minutes, for some it’s 15 minutes.
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Since 2021 SC products have come in leaps and bounds.I feel that the only show stoppers to not getting results is,
- Your not taking action on your goals
- You have mental problems and perhaps should get therapy treatment first before using the products.
- Your living in a toxic environment surrounded by toxic people who constantly belittle you.
- Your over exposing hoping that the results will manifest more quickly.
Another reason could be you have not identified exactly what your issues, challenges are.
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yes thats what ill do, first thing in the morning microlooping
i make music and dj also, and i also wanted to indulge into many artistic disciplines to be a model for renaissance men
but it didnt effect my music or improve it also i felt music didnt hit me anymore lethargy to one of my fav things in life
im excited to try micro looping cuz i genuinely believe that subs work and ive seen stuff change but doesn’t stick
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art music love is the sanity in madness or the madness in sanity, i feel empty without these instruments of life, its my calling and my judgement
this world is mad and dogshit, so art balances it for me at least
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But custom has two cores plus probably 18 modules. I would guess this is much more for your brain than one single sub, but of course I might be wrong
thanks for the input man, i can relate to you with the heaviness and clumsiness , so maybe microloops is the way, ive never tried it, ive always done 15 m, now ive came back after a while so should be a nice test to see how it is
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