Advice on what sub to use for no motivation, and not seeing a point to life anymore?

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#21

Dragon Reborn 100%.

I recommend Dragon Reborn Stage 4 for a bit and then getting on Emperor. You’ll never watch porn again and you’ll look at life with renewed vigor and ambition as you are physically, mentally and spiritually healed and developing as a mature, actualized, extremely powerful adult man. One who enjoys life. You will literally see reality and your entire life experience in a different way.

Emperors don’t relapse. Your lack of drive and ambition is a masculinity issue. Emperor covers all of this at an extreme level. It really molds you into a top percentile Alpha Male.

You need a deep reconfiguration and transformation. GM, Ascension and all that other light stuff you’ve been stacking is for babies, lol no offense to anyone who uses them.

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#22

Pretty much this.

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#23

Yo, @Grimm1390. Was wondering where you were. Will be starting Emperor soon along with a custom healing ultima (for my eyes, ears, etc) to resolve my own issues that are similar to yours (NoFap, purpose, helicopter parents, money, etc)

If you are not too keen on DR, I would encourage you to just run Emperor. I have run DR though and it is tough (possibly Qv2 will make it easier since there could less recon on it). But DR will nonetheless be a long journey. It helped heal a lot of emotional trauma especially that unhealthy bond I have with my parents. But now I need to do the work to get the money to be able to move out. And that’s where Emperor comes in

EDIT: possible that Emperor would also be enough since it has Rebirth and Weakness Destroyer in it. And Emp is v2 now

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#24

With out doing stage 1.2.3?

#25

@Phoermes @Lion
DR was that tough ? How would you compare it to total breakdown or rebirth or limit destroyer ?
I been checking in on the sub but haven’t been commenting much for the pass few months.

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#26

Khan stage 1 may temporarily make your funk even worse. Ask yourself, if you are ready for this right now…
If your funk is due to a sub, stop the subs for several weeks till you can get your groove back, and whatever you choose, precede slowly at first…

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#27

How were the challenges emperor manifested for you ?
I do agree ascension etc is light stuff compared to emperor. I Don’t know why I always run from emperor

#28

Not to derail here Grimm cause your thread is important but damn raphael, I remember when you were just finishing up your healing stack and were preparing for Emperor when we got savagely blindsided by Dragon Reborn.

So, @Grimm1390. Besides porn what else is going on in your life? Or, if it helps you to think of it differently… what do you think ISN’T going on in your life that you want to?

I haven’t seen you post for awhile, but if I remember correctly I remember reading a Primal journal of yours? Have you considered running Primal and Sanguine together? I can’t really think of a more emotionally uplifting stack besides customs.

Have you browsed the YBOP website at all and checked for resources that will help? You’re a bit older than me, but your struggle is so similar to what mine used to be that my heart aches a bit.

I will say though, those that mentioned Emperor are absolutely right. The anti-porn aspect of it is soo strong dude. But also…

If answering this pries into things better left unmentioned, lemme know. You mentioned “besides customs”. Would you prefer to avoid customs and possible discussion of them at all costs? Cuz maaan, there’s at least 5 modules that come to mind for your situation.

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#29

@Lion how has the custom been working regarding your health issues ??

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#30

The first time I ever ran total breakdown before the Q one, it hit me like a ton of bricks it was uncomfortable. Q felt smoother and less harsh maybe Q2 is even smoother ?

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#31

I haven’t run Limit Destroyer or Rebirth. Have run Regeneration and Khan ST1.

In my DR run, DR1 was manageable. But DR2 and DR3 hit me very hard with recon. I think depending on what you are trying to root out, each stage of DR will affect you differently. There were many times I just wanted to get it over with. This is why I am warning you in advance.

Like I wrote before, do consider running Emperor solo. Like I am gonna do (along with physical healing custom i really need else I would run Emperor by itself). Emperor does have Rebirth and Weakness Destroyer in it so if you run it for 3, 4 months by itself, it would heal you too

EDIT: felt that DR1 was a bit easier for me because I ran Khan1 before

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#32

I don’t know. I’ve never done Khan.

My advice is to stop subs for about a week and see if the condition gets better. If it does, ever so slowly start back up, with either the same subs or a different one.

#33

What was your experience with dragon reborn ?
No problem derail all you want lol I don’t mind anything can be asked here on this post if it’s going to help other users as well :slightly_smiling_face:

#34

I made a physical healing custom without Hero modules before the Hero mods were released. Now am in the process of making a new custom which has Hero modules in it. So it’s too early to say

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#35

Nothing better for a hard reset than the Emperor.

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#36

Non-existent so far, I just have read great things on @RVconsultant’s thread is all :slight_smile: plus the sales page is pretty clear on what to expect from it.

Emperor, however, I do have exp with.

Here’s some things from the DR sales page that might influence your decision:

Dragon Reborn is a 4 stage subliminal designed to completely change you – it will shatter and purge, heal and rejuvenate, release and liberate all of your negative emotions, traumas, beliefs, energies, conditioning and negative blocks, on the physical, mental and spiritual levels.

It is too often that healing focuses on just one aspect, usually the emotional. This is an approach that, while effective to a degree, has limitations. To become the person you desire, you have to take into account the physical and spiritual aspects of your being as well.

What do you think of running Alchemist, @Grimm139? I ask cuz I just noticed you said something about spiritual weakness, which is a new concept to me. What did you mean by that, if you don’t mind me asking?

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#37

I’ll be checking in on this thread in the morning Grimm but I got to sleep as I just noticed 1:11 am on the clock.

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#38

Haha true. You got some good memory there.

#39

Yea primal is definitely a uplifting sub the sanguine in it is really powerful. I could use primal for the mood boost or life boost I should say. Yep I’ve read YBOP, been to recovery groups , I stopped all my good systems things I needed to do to be successful in Nofap. I built back up the habit Of being lazy and fapping. I’m trying to get back into my good habits but I’m to lazy and have no energy. That’s a sorry Excuse I know.
I thought the anti porn scripting in AM was strong to, how was the anti porn scripting for emperor?
As for the things going on in my life nothing besides work. I been a bum to be quite honest with you for the past 6 months or so. Very unproductive and lazy.
I see you mentioned the customs which modules do you have in mind ?
The only reason I said I’m not considering customs is because I have so many sub club subs I wanna make use of them lol.
No worries man it’s 4:17 am here go get some sleep I appreciate all the advice you have already given

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#40

@Grimm1390 - I have to add that the main reason I ran DR was for physical healing. It healed some physical issues which were not too serious. That’s why am still on the hunt for stronger help. Even Paragon was on the same level as DR in terms of physical healing.

So yeah, am grateful to DR for it’s help in clearing out some of my emotional issues but that’s not why I ran it for lol

And now I will kickstart Emperor based on the advice SaintSovereign had given you on your helicopter parents thread. And also because of @Yardbird 's emperor review

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