I saw @Alphabeast asking about the visualization with subliminals in the Heartsong thread. I wanted to respond and further elaborate on my experiences when it comes to that. I have described this in the past but i believe that i now have better understand of it and can provide even better description of how it works. It will be a long read through.
Part 1: Long ago ( cant remeber exactly on what sub ) using pre ZP attraction subs i would randomly feel an intense feeling in my body. Intense hearbeat ( not nessecarly fast ), heavy breathing and a plesant yet strange electrical surge coursing through my body. This feeling happened randomly and in relation to a woman. It could be ones i knew, or never talked to before but it happened randomly.
In public i would feel this sensation which pulled me towards a certain woman. When i looked they usually looked back as if we were being pulled towards each other. Another way of describing it. It felt as if i was destined to meet the women i felt this towards. In the beginning i used to be terrified of this feeling as it made me very uncomfortable. I knew i needed to do something and go talk to them. I even hated that opportunities for me to approach were easily occurring as it took away my excuses which i clung to.
As i gotten more comfortable with this sensation. I pulled the trigger more and more. Each time i did, the interaction went amazing and the chemistry was natural. This feeling/pull however was not equal in strength every time. I later discovered that the stronger the pull, the more ” right ” that person was for me. The best relationships/sex and experiences i had was with women i felt this ” Pull ” towards which was so intense it scared be to no end despite my experience.
Part 2: what is this pull/intensity with the intense heartbeat? Is it a manifestation? Is it guided by fate? How do i full use it and is its limits?
These are questions i asked myself allot. Something so supernatural, so mysterious fascinated me to no end. It felt like i was about to be the first person ever to discover a real life super power. And if something like this is possible, then our world is far more than science and logic claims it to be. To that end i dedicated lots of time exploring this intensity and i experimented with it allot. I will post the results of those experiments.
A: What is this pull and what are it’s benefits?
This pull/attraction is some form of heart chakra activation caused by an auric subliminal. The same or other subliminal is responsible for manifesting the person who i feel this pull towards. This pull means that if make an effort and follow the pull. I will most likely meet someone who will make me feel amazing. It is almost always with someone i want and or need even if it does not seem like it. Another benefit is that when feeling this pull, the woman on the other end feels it as well. If i felt this pull and felt aroused by her, she feels it as well. This is most clear when texting and feeling excited. They usually start talking more sexual. Which makes me feel hornier which in turn they feel as well. This usually ends with nudes, sexting and sometimes i get girls to " pleasure themselves " and orgasm while calling/facetiming.
An example of that is a green eyed half latina which i meet in 2022 i think. When i first saw her, i felt this pull and by taking action i realised how fun and easy our interaction was. She looked like a 7 at the time because she was heading to work but after meeting her on a date, i found her personality to be amazing and that she was 10/10 to my highest, egotistical standards. She shit tested me alot on the date and would have been difficult to most men but at the time i was on my A+ game and got her home the same day. We had sex the same day despite her telling me she wont do it, and to my suprise her body infinitly hotter than i could ever imagine. To this day, i have never been with anyone sexier than her.
B: Does feeling this pull means i met my soulmate or twinflame?
No! This pull/intensity is an answor to what i want and need at the moment. I felt this connection pleanty of times with women i did not desire long term but gave me experiances which i absloutly wanted/needed at the moment.
Nowadays i experience this pull but with far higher quality women in terms of beauty and character. I will use the half latina with green eyes as an example. She was a narcissist she was only attracted to because i was not like most men who would simp for her. After slowly revealing her toxic side i lost respect for her despite how much i desired her sexually. Eventually the spark faded and so did the pull towards her.
C: Is this pull permanent?
No it is not. As i grew closer or further away from the person, so did this pull. The more pain/discomfort she caused me the less this pull occurred and in far lesser intensity.
D: Can i create this pull with anyone?
No! This only happens with someone who i want/need honestly. It cant happen just because i think i want/need someone. It has to be authentic. In some other cases where the girl loses respect for me, she will not feel nor respond to it despite me feeling it. Its a clear proof that ” Free will scripting ” was there from the begining. Far longer before ZP subs. And for this i am grateful for Subclub.
So no you will not be able to magically create this with anyone. You have to want/need them in some way and so do they. Its a two way street and its not permanent. Its not psychic seduction.
E: If it aint psychic seduction, than what is it?
While using a subliminal with attraction/aura. You are manifesting and attracting someone you want/need based on those in the moment. If you are healthy, you will manifest and feel this pull towards someone healthy and vice versa. Self esteem plays a big factor as well. The level of inner / outer beauty of the person you manifest/feel this pull towards is a direct response to the level of person you believe you deserve. Just wanting someone very hot does not necessarily mean you will get or feel it towards.
F: Can this get out of hand?
Yes! If the right conditions are met, you may end up with someone with too much chemistry with. I have had many nights where i was unable to sleep, sexting for up to 6 am in the morning. In one particular night. Me and the half latina with green eyes kept talking and sexting from 2 am all the way to 13 pm. The stronger the desire/intensity/need, the stronger the urge becomes. You still have the control however. Its an urge, not a compulsion. But being very aroused makes you lose control.
G: Do i still need game?
Yes and absolutly. You need both inner and outer game. If your ” inner game ” is bad. You will attract less desirable partners who may meet your beauty standards but are ultimately unhealthy for you. If you lack outer game, you options are reduced significantly. Most women are experts at filtering ” low quality or boring men ”. There are some who don’t shit test, could like you for you from the get go but you wont get far with them in any way if you lack understanding of social dynamics. As for shit tests. Do as i do and start being excited for them. Women only shit test men they want. And if she is showing a sign that she wants you, then its on. The best way to deal with them is to be completly neutral. It doesn’t matter what your response is. It doesn’t have to be alpha or smart. She is testing your frame, not your response. Your response is only ever bad if you feel like you need to respond perfectly. Besides the fact that most men fumble this should excite you. That you have an advantage over 99% of the simps, egomaniacs and tryhards texting or meeting her. She shit tests to filter them out, but their existence and bad game becomes a conduit for you to shine brighter and stand out in comparison.
One time a very hot girl shit tested me on a date saying ” So are you one of those guys who only want to fuck? ” I simply said ” maybe i am and maybe am not. You will have to figure that out yourself since most men lie when asked this question ”. I picked a lazy response that showed me being conformable in not trying to prove anything to her. If your response is confident and relaxed. You pass. The words don’t matter.
In when i am out with shy girls on a date, i intentionally let out a bit of my dorky/dumb side simply to provoke a shit test. In some cases they may not shit-test you due to how high value you are as in you are already qualified. This happens with girls who give tons of compliments or remark how amazing you are
H: How do i make best use of this?
If you are running and aura sub or a ZPV2 or + attraction sub you will be manifesting and feeling the pull. Conscious guidance plays a big part here. Take few moments a day and imagine what your next partner looks like what do they make you feel. If the feeling is strong then it works. It doesn’t need to be the way i described it. The only thing that matters is how immersed you are in the feeling. I have done this pleanty of times. As in INTJ i usually think of ENFPs because they are my perfect match and i love them to no end. Every single one i met i am grateful for. Even men, some of my best friends are ENFPs. They complement me perfectly. When i want more excitement. I think of INFJs since they see the world as i do yet they are very emotional and intense. With your intention being clear. Go and live out your life and every now and then you will feel this intense heart chakra activation towards someone randomly. It may feel werid and scary but you will know that you need to take action.
The fact that you are feeling it, that its scary and uncomfortable only means how easy it will eventually be because the person you are attracting is that compatible with you. And remember, they are feeling it just as much as you do. For them. This feeling is the stuff of fairytales and its extra special since they have no clue what is causing it.
I: What does this say about free will?
This is 1000% free will. You cant force it to happen. It only happens when because you manifest and attract someone who matches your desires/needs. If at any point your feelings change, so will the pull and vice versa. If the other person, for whatever reason, decides to end things with you and fully mean it. The pull is gone. If you decide to end it with someone, and mean it, it will go away from their side as well. We are only talking about this pull. Shared experiences, memories and moments are a different story however.
The only control you have is of your actions. This pull does not guarantee anything as i fumbled it many times because of fear and not taking action. You also control your own inner state of being like allowing it to happen. This process changed me and helped me mature into a better man. It taught me about my shortcomings, my ego and what i truly desire.
K: How would this look like if i was using attraction/aura subliminals or not. Or simply not using subliminals at all?
For someone using attraction/aura subliminals it means that the game is changed forever. You no longer need to go on failed dates with incompatible people. This ensures that when you feel this pull, to whatever degree of strength, this person is who you want and or need. This feeling tells you that you won before the game started. You still need to play to the best of your abilities though. If you are active in the game, this means that you will win far more often and that your wins are far more valuable and enjoyable. Remeber to be honest about your intentions.
Part 3: The game changer
In a world with 8,8 Billion people. You can bet that there is someone who matches your wildest expectations and standards or both inner and outer beauty + values and needs. This pull is not equal. One month you may be pulling an 8 and the other it could be a 10. Yet every blue moon you may manifest someone whos’ beauty and shared chemistry is out of a fairytale. In my case that would be the half latina with green eyes. I have yet to manifest and or pull someone as attractive as her again despite my game being far weaker back then. So what happened which caused me to manifest her? I remember it vividly. That day i woke up extremally happy and i was in the zone. Few days prior i was thinking about wanting to meet someone super hot and sexual in bed… and nothing else. That day i was truly in the moment and was happy to be alive. I was in the zone simply living the moment… and thats when i met her…
So this is the last key. To be fully in the moment and truly enjoying it. You cant delude your self into it and you cant fake it. That feeling is worth more than anything in the world by its own merit. Its also when you will you may meet someone who may rock your world. As for the quality of that someone, well it will mirrors yours.
Last words: I learned most of this with experience and experimentation. If its not working or happening it doesn’t mean you are doing it wrong. The only control you have is of your own inner state. If for example you like someone, they like you back… and you find them attractive. You will begin to think about them or fantasize about them, they will feel it as well. Sometimes they opposite is true. It is a two way street. If you have bad intentions, if you are playing a game then you will attract another player. If you are unhealed, you will attract someone equally unhealed but maybe in a different way than you.
It’s not a terrible thing however. By meeting someone unhealed, you will be faced with your own shortcomings and will have the opportunity to evolve, heal or simply discover that what you thought you wanted may not be as good as you first thought.
