Actions passive or active

Reading some topics from certain users, I noticed that many talk about passive waiting for a result, so I started to question myself about what this passive waiting would be like and how not to be stuck in this position, but I was confused to know also how to get in tune with the scripts of the subliminal in an active way so that the subs present better results on me, could someone give me some guidance on this?

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I would think that the subliminals should, on their own, inspire active action/“flow factor”.
I mean, it may be true that Wanted alone will not build muscle if you do not work out. But is it possible to run Wanted and not work out? Being a subliminal, shouldn’t Wanted relentlessly convince you to work out? This is just an example. I don’t know.

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I’d say: work on and follow a plan and process that would be pretty good for you even if you were not running a subliminal.

That, in a nutshell, will do it.

What a given person needs will vary by personality, by circumstance, and by timing.

What a woman needs when she’s 5 weeks pregnant is not the same as what she needs when she’s 35 weeks pregnant.

Watch the timing.

Life is a dance. Timing is key.

Sometimes the best action to take is to rest; to let go.

Sometimes, the ideal course is to observe, to plan, and to prepare.

At other times, the moment has come to strive with full effort.

Ask yourself: What is ideal at this time?

And then ask it again.

And then ask it again.

Finally:

Once you get an amazing car–the highest quality, perfectly tuned-up and maintained, filled with gas;
And once you have finished admiring the beauty of the car;

now it is time to drive it.

When you drive the car, stop looking at the car and start looking at the road. The car will work best when you move your attention beyond the car.

The subliminal will work best when you move your attention beyond the subliminal.

Look at your life and ask what you want to do.

Then do that.

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It depends on what subliminals you’re using and what your goals are.

For example, if you’re running Primal Seduction and sitting around at home playing video games waiting for the subliminal to work… That’s what we DON’T do around here.

Taking action would mean going out and being around women, talking to them etc, stretching your comfort zone and doing things that may seem uncomfortable at first.

This allows the subliminal to BREATHE, it needs a pathway and your action provides momentum for it to manifest and take off.

Does that make sense? It’s not rocket science.

Another example, if you’re running Mogul and want more money, then instead of sitting around waiting for your bank account balance to magically increase… You’d start exploring avenues of income, investment etc and applying yourself in them.

Now and then you’ll encounter these smartasses who say something along the lines of “well what is the point in the subliminal then, if I’m just doing everything on my own anyway”.

This type of mentality is set up for 100% failure and involves zero accountability.

I will just speak the brutal facts here since no one else will do it. That type of mentality is 100% of the time rationalization for not wanting to experience the discomfort required in life when it comes to achieving goals and just growing in fucking general. They hide behind these conscious rationalizations, point fingers at the subliminals, point fingers at the scripts, point fingers at the company and then propose a whole bunch of useless reframing of how manifesting and the subconscious mind works (all baseless conjecture) solely so that they can stay in their comfort zone.

Everyone KNOWS what it means to take action. It’s extremely simple shit. Everything I explained in the beginning of this post is very very simple.

I’ll even give another example:
If you’re using Spartan or Emperor Fitness… go to the gym. Get some supplements, research diet plans, find a gym trainer. If you’re doing martial arts then join one of those clubs.

This idea where one can just passively sit around and they will get everything they want in life is not how reality works. There will be LOAer’s who propose otherwise and claim that the mind can do anything. These are the same people who probably believe that if one believes hard enough, that eating McDonalds 6 times a day is healthy, then it will manifest. The point is there is something called congruence and it’s the difference between being all talk and actually living what you speak/having your deep, internal subconscious beliefs aligned with it. Just because someone read a couple of LOA articles from one of these New Age spiritual guru newsletters doesn’t mean they know anything. In the realm of LOA, it’s not all about conscious knowledge, your subconscious beliefs have to be aligned with it as well and if they’re not then what you have consciously integrated will become distorted/misinterpreted causing you to then be left with a false perception of how it works - more often than not, a perception that allows you to perpetuate your internal issues. Everything I’m laying out here has to do with congruence.

The subliminal is a tool that you anchor yourself too. It’s meant to align your subconscious mind with what you’re already intending on doing. It is an aid and nothing more, but a powerful one at that.

For example if someone wants to start a business.

Person A does it while listening to Mogul.
Person B does it without any subliminals.

The person listening to Mogul has the advantage because their subconscious mind is aligned with what they’re doing to maximize success. This allows them to enter a flow state and they will have access to subconscious guidance that they would otherwise not have. HOWEVER, subliminal or no subliminal, the desired goal is the same and the pathway of action is the same.

When we tell you to take action, we’re not asking anything crazy of you. We’re basically saying “Excalibur is in your hand. Go and slay the dragon, what are you waiting around for?”

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Just wrote a post about this topic. Here’s my 2 cents.

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Time is valuable and it’s a large investment for many, let alone financially, and energetically to be using subliminals.

I don’t think it’s healthy to blame people for being critical of subliminals. I don’t think it’s about comfort zone. It’s about healthy skepticism. After all, the things in life worth using, work. They just work. If you’re paying the amount you’re paying for subliminals I think you have the absolute right to question its effects.

If a doctor prescribes you a medicine, you watch out for side effects. You monitor your reaction, your internal shifts. Why should subliminals be so sensitive to criticism? Why should it always be the fault of the listener if it doesn’t work? Just because it works for you, it HAS to work for everyone? Nah.

And what’s with the strange conclusions you’re drawing about LOA? Whoever said LOA promotes doing nothing? The books I read encourage intensive mental practice, arguably much more radical and energy consuming than an active, extroverted lifestyle. It’s simple: LOA is the way to go for introverts. For the spiritually guided and inclined. It’s not about magic. It’s about recoding the entire operating system of the mind. It’s incredibly difficult! It’s the most active out of all actions! You cannot possibly draw such conclusions about LOA if you have not dedicated hours every day to affirmations, visualization, meditation, etc.

Your post is a prime example of belittling others just because you don’t agree with their values and beliefs.

We’re allowed to be skeptical. We’re allowed to be critical. We’re allowed to question what influence subliminals truly have on our lives.

Don’t make that a bad thing.

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As the quote goes:

“There’s levels to this s**t.”

Sub Club products offer collaborative support.

The listener works together with the program to choose paths of action and to follow those paths.

You can be confident that, having chosen a given path, you will be supported and strengthened along that path.

What you won’t be is forced down any particular path.

When we’re desperate and discouraged, it feels like that would be a great thing. But as we get stronger and gain more confidence in our resources, we invariably find that the freedom to choose and to determine our own actions is vitally important.

In other words, the more confident you become in your capacity to create the changes you want, the less you will desire anyone or anything to force you to make changes.

Instead, you will want resources that make it easier or smoother for you to make the changes that you have chosen. It’s a subtle distinction, but, over time, it makes a difference.

Other than this point though, the subliminal will actually give you a lot of help to get where you want to go. It’s just that it won’t force you.

Here’s a practical example from me in the past couple of days:

I’m running the module Polyglot.

So the other day, as I was just sitting down, a new idea for how to learn languages popped into my mind. And I realized that this was a way that could make it much more effective for me to integrate the languages that I’m interested in.

Now I know that there’s kind of a Motivational Expiration Date on this idea. There’s this window within which the idea will still feel fresh. And so it’s kind of on me to take some simple actions to just try it out. It’s not particularly difficult. I have the motivation to do it, because it seems like a cool, new idea; but there’s still the chance that I just won’t opt to do it. And that’s on me.

This is actually a true example. So I hope that I’ll make the necessary moves to try out this idea in reality.

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Can we say it’s a matter of “getting out of the way.”

As long as you are not actually resisting your intuitive urges, then it should be fine.

Right?

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Lol I hear you mate. Just take action. If you don’t take action aligned with the subliminal you won’t get the results you want. Show me 1 person in the forum who got amazing results and didn’t take action. As a matter of fact, show me 1 person in the real world who got amazing results in anything and didn’t take action. I have what people say are crazy results and I take action like a madman.

Let me ask you a question…
What is your current stack and what actions are you taking?

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I think you can say that. That principle’s going to work well for you.

We all need different paths to get us to the same place.

Some people do well with a tough style, some with an easy style. Some don’t need a tough style or an easy style. They need a beautiful style.

Whatever works is what you do.

Astrology Rabbit Hole Time

Mars in the natal astrology chart indicates the person’s ideal style of Action-Taking.

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Thanks!

Thanks,your words really gave me an incredible ligh.

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Thanks,your words really gave me an incredible light.

Thanks.

Even the lottery winner had to buy the ticket. Even the person who got the inheritance had to sign the papers. Always gotta do something.

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In the study of the way each day something is dropped. Less and less do you have to force things until finally you arrive at the place of non-action. Where nothing is done and nothing remains un-done.

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Just to share my personal experience; taking action like a madman has never worked for me.

When I actually took the time to do a ton of affirmations and visualizations I had distinct IDENTITY changes. These identity changes led to effortless action which led me to fulfill my goals. Affirmations plus visualizations is a DIRECT route to communicate to your subconscious……

I’m convinced people who say its mental masturbation have never committed to a serious CONSISTENT routine of practicing it towards specific goals. It truly is one of those things you have to do for yourself to see how MUCH of your life is being governed by your internal world….

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The manual on how to use SubliminalClub audios goes like this:

  1. Run subliminal
  2. Take action
  3. Journal

This is like a car manufacturer selling you a car and they tell you to use a key, fire up the engine and use steering wheel/accelerator/breaks etc to drive the car. And if you don’t follow the instructions, it won’t work.

Now imagine a future when we get self-driving cars. Will the instructions be the same? We will still have to take some action like getting into the car and maybe input a destination with a voice command but the number of actions is less when compared to the vehicles we drive today.

So the moral of the story is if you are using a product, follow the user manual given to you by the maker of the product and you will succeed. In the future, we could get the self-driving equivalent of cars for subliminals too but that’s another story where we will have to take less action but still have to do something.

So take action (and journal too), even a bit of action, and you will see how the subliminal magnifies the result compared to taking action without subliminals.

The type of action you have to take is explained well in the comments above. Am sure you can also figure this out by thinking a bit about goals you have and how you achieve those goals by taking steps to achieve them.

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Even inward goals such as meditation and others takes a lot of action and dedication, and we all have different backgrounds and self-imposed limitations. They say all roads lead to Rome, and maybe they do, but I have not personally tested them all to give a satisfying answer to that question…

A wise man to me is not just black or white, he takes into accont information from all angles and tries it out for himself to see what works. I can agree on both perspectives on this, and to me it comes down to what you have to work with. Many of us need to get our butts out of the wagon because we have become lazy, an some such as @NinjaGazin has a different set of triggers or ways of doing things.

Isn’t that why we are writing down things in our journals to start with, to see what works and what doesn’t work? Isn’t that why we can disagree and agree with others and ultimately learn something in the end? Learning is supposed to be fun, I guess that’s why I was never really interested in school, because that way of learning was not for me, and here I am now :grin: :+1:

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Like it’s so simple. Then they get triggered when I say “it’s simple shit” lol.

How dare you suggest for them to take action, clearly something is wrong with subliminals :laughing:

Well said.

What you’ll find is that, these hardcore LOAers who downplay action-taking seemingly have no journals and are very in the dark.

Like pretty much ALL of them and there’s a reason for that… - it’s not a coincidence.

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