… With ZPrefresh/2 or so where do we stand with recon? I’m searching for the latest topic consisting of “recon” but it seems my forum searching sucks.
I thought initially I had an idea of what it is to be under recon but, now I am rethinking how accurate that was.
I was def jumping from sub to sub given what I felt was lacking and listened to a specific sub to work toward that. but as of now, I am not sure what signs to look for if we still expect to get some recon.
Check the support site articles.
Recon on ZP2 is still the same … hopefully more manageable, but that isn’t guaranteed.
… Especially not for the Artisan line.
You can definitely still get recon, it’s just that the threshold is different. How much different depends on each person and whatever stack their running.
One of the easiest ways to get recon is to rapidly switch between programs. The active processing time for subs seems to be 12 days, with some more processing lingering in the background. You can check out the article on stack rotation for more details. But the gist of it is, to limit yourself to only switching titles once per cycle.
that…lol yeah I was switching like a madman in my earlier days, but now after more reading and listening to a few members, I’ve calmed down a bit. just sticking to 2 tracks one day every other day.
… i did not think on that, i’ll do that thank you
So I think this is definitely recon because I am at the point of switching to a different Sub…
for Nov I ran LBFH and PCC, however, after some conversations on this forum came to the conclusion of starting December with LBFH and EMP and dropping PCC…
I am not feeling that my confidence is still pretty shot and my mind is still in a negative setting.
I know for a fact that it’s due to the lack of having any confidence in my appearance.
I’ve started basic work out past few days as a means to force some type of action… however realizing that I literally have no Stamina (I am not overweight or obese, build is average) but after a couple of pushups I realized I am very exhausted and arms are too sore to continue even the next day.
I am now thinking if I should switch EMP with Spartan ( i recall when I first ran Spartan for a few days I had stupid crazy energy) very strictly getting focused on working out I think once I am happy with my physical self It would boost my confidence a lot and think Spartan can push that again…
is this recon?
EMP was in the stack for Finance goals and such but being out of work and business isn’t going anywhere I am losing more hope atm, tho I can land a job after the holidays surly but I really have set one goal of getting physically fit. starting slowly in my workouts til I call my workout an actual workout.
Tagging @Lion and @Billions, they had some input in my previous post for dropping PCC and moving to EMP. what do you guys suggest should I drop EMP and jump on spartan? it has given me a good amount of stamina before. thank you in advance to anyone who can suggest anything.
Your intuition could be pushing you to add Spartan in your stack.
What about Emp + PCC + Spartan or Emp + LBH + Spartan? Consider these stacks too since Emp is too good of a title to remove.
These are just ideas to consider. Mull over it and make a decision based on what’s best for you.
I removed PCC already for December, I am running LBFH and EMP on Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays, do you think I should add Spartan with those or add it on a Saturday
This seems like a good choice, I’ve finished at least one cycle of PCC and I can come back to it for the January cycle.
but is it okay to add spartan mid-way? would this be overloading and I might feel discouraged? just a thought… I should mention that I had/have plans to add AC at the very end of the cycle just before the washout
Yes I would recommend waiting a few days before adding Spartan.
Ideally one should wait for a cycle to end and a minimum of 12 days when removing a title from a stack and adding another in its place.
But you can try waiting at least 5 days and then add Spartan to your stack. See if it produces recon and take more rest days if it does before adding it back.
Talking about rest days, it’s absolutely fine to take more rest days if you feel Emp is giving you recon.
Agreed, I’ll wait til next week then, at the very least by then my body shouldn’t be getting too sore and I’d feel discouraged lol thanks @Lion
Happy to help bro 
In general, the longer you stick with a sub, the better the results. After a time, the result start to feel like a fact of nature. “Of course people like me, I’m great.” That type of energy.
That doesn’t mean you should always stick with a sub in the hope of results. You gotta listen to your intuition.
Recon can also manifest itself in a lot of weird ways. Just constantly check in with yourself. Am I moving in the direction I want to move, do I feel good, is this program really for me?
You’ll figure it out.
When it doubt, pick a general and positive subliminal and stick with it for at least 2-4 cycles. Alpha subs are a great choice.
I decided to stick to LBFH as long term, most likely for Jan too, I think once I add spartan next week and throughout Jan I’ll see where my progress is and can decide if I need to make a switch or stick to the same stack. thinking of Swapping EMP with EMP Black…
tho this is where my problem comes in, I def have to get employed by mid to late Jan no doubt, so I feel self pressure to move to Limitless Executive during that time which again I want to avoid randomly jumping subs
You just switched subs last month.
Don’t do it again.
Listen to less loops and/or listen to 3 minute loops, and listen at night before bed to avoid recon.
It has nothing to do with your appearance, and giving into this idea will make your confidence worse.
The worst thing you can do is teach yourself that you can only be happy when you’re at a certain muscularity or body weight.
To phrase it simply, the way to gain more confidence in your appearance is NOT by improving your appearance… it’s by improving yourself… improving yourself until you realize that your appearance is a shallow metric that nobody but you judges you by
You’re not feeling confident because EMP and LBFH are working on your confidence and self love tremendously, trying to show you what’s real, takin you deep, and deep is scary so you’re reverting back to shallow and surface-level things to be anxious about as a defence mechanism to hide from the deeper truth.
And, check this out… isn’t it convenient that part of that “reason for being anxious” you’re describing involves switching subliminals/adding more subliminals so you can distract yourself from The Work?
Funny how that works out, isn’t it? It’s almost like switching subs is a sign of recon! :o
Don’t change a thing. Work through the recon. Come out stronger for it.
Emperor has exercise motivation and physical shifting in it - if that can’t help you, neither can Spartan
this I will adapt from Monday… I’ve been listening to my stacks every morning.
So I understand where your coming from but… after climbing stairs a
few times a day reality hits that I am out of shape 
Bingo! that was my first thought, when I had the feeling of tiredness I thought Spartan would give a push but then that goes back to my initial way when I began SubClub where I was switching subs where I thought I need a quick improvement.
I figured that but then I thought that Spartan was very focused on workouts 
Could you possibly give a bit more clarification on this, please…
so given my current situation where not just physical but related to my health too I am in somewhat deep shit.
I’ve started to work on my diet and workout needed as per my doc, however, that includes Financial issues and managing family and work… I think I am struggling with what to focus on one at a time rather my mind ends up all over trying to fix all issues altogether and at least I am aware of this but still trying to break it down in my actions on specific points to work towards… each takes priority but what goes above what is what I struggle with…
so my reasoning behind this is well… when I am dressed more Cleanly and professionally I feel extremely confident. normally I am in jeans and a t-shirt/hoodie… regardless of where I am. The past 3 years of WFH have def caused my apparel to go down in shits
What’s WFH?
Working from home?
If you’re out of shape, workout. You don’t need to do something wrong (stack switch) just to do something right.
If you want to workout, then workout. And if you don’t want to workout, Spartan won’t change that.
Emperor and LBFH are two of the best subs out there apart from Spartan for getting you to workout.
Emperor will fill you with drive and LBFH will build a relationship with yourself where you take time to do that because your health is important.
TBH your recon doesn’t even sound like recon.
It sounds like a result.
You now care much more about your body. You’re much more motivated to improve it. You’re finding ways to be self confident.
That IS the result. And it came from LBFH + EMP. So keep going down that path. It’s working for you - it just sometimes feels hard instead of euphoric. But that’s a good thing. Change isn’t always easy.
If you really wanted to, you could add in ascension chamber once a week to focus on specific objectives in emperor like workout motivation, and specific goals like becoming fit.
That way you’re not really stack switching, just adding in a booster which enhances what you’re already doing
Yes, I think even tho this was great in me taking a good portion of home responsibility it’s made me a bit lazy too…
This I think is exactly what I am feeling, I’ve actually put that time aside now.
“Euphoric” is the word I was looking for… I think I’ve been looking for that euphoric feeling too much.
Definitely, there was an odd push within me to begin working out, I’ve had it running back and forth in my head to work out but not til a few days back I finally said screw it and let’s just start (taking action) and I’ll def consider this, as a result, to push more further.
Emperor helped me get a job. For what it’s worth. Emperor Black is an advanced title. That doesn’t mean you can’t or shouldn’t run it, just remember that it was designed to be an unbalanced sub for advanced users and given that you’ve been switching around a lot, I wonder if it might be a bad call.