Anyways. Off Topic. Thanks for the ideas.
Couples is what ended my last relationship, do not recommend.
She also suggested a break but then I got mad when I saw her with other dudes and decided to end it. It’s just a way for some ppl to cheat or explore other options and returning to the person, I dont vouch for it cause you gotta end it if u wanna end it and continue if u wanna continue. But marrying a person because you can’t do better or find someone better is settling
Thanks to EmpD I have revolutionized my fashion in a very authentic way. I started dressing well, finding fashion videos, etc.
And I started growing a mustache. I get a LOT of compliments on it. An insane amount. Normally within 15-30 minutes of talking, the girls (especially 18-22) that I’ve been talking to come out and say it.
I love your mustache.
This is a perfect example of physical shifting - I tried growing one 3 months ago and people did NOT like it. “EmpD will give physical shifting towards aging related features looking good”
Now that I’ve added Khan, I started combining “silver fox” elements (as a 29 year old, that’s black dress pants, gold rings, a silver watch with a turquoise face, etc) with a more young vibe. Mix and match. Edgy and formal.
A black shirt, black sweats, boots, 2 silver chains, blue/turqoise watch, 3 rings (one black, one silver, and one gold/silver), a black whoop strap, boots, and a jean jacket (blue/white inside) on top.
Looks fucking incredible. First outfit I’ve ever had that had SAUCE. And I got it from going edgy and then making edgy look almost formal.
Loving that I ran EmpD because even though it’s not even in my stack currently, I’m doing well talking to the 18-23 yr olds. Once I settle in here I’ll probably make my custom KhanST4/EmpD. Maybe RoTNW thrown in to be cheeky
Since @RagnarLothbrok asked my stack.
My current stack is Khan/RoTNW because on khan I feel like an absolute freaking alpha, BUT… I know my physiology and it usually takes me a few weeks of dating someone before I gain stamina. Something in me gets nervous or something. So, RoTNW for the direct stamina control as well as the NSE “experiences” () that will help me override that nervousness and rebuild my stamina.
I’m in a mood where I want multiple deep FWB’s, but not relationships
Khan ST1: emotional growth
Khan ST2: social mastery
ST2:
results
god I literally just walk up to gorgeous girls on campus, make an innocuous comment, and have 100% of their attention.
If they’re alone, they stop everything that they’re doing and talk to me (like immediately put phone in bag and close laptop at my lil one line observation) for as long as I want. I’ve had to start joking “oh my god if we talk any longer my whole group will fail these projects, stop being so funny!”
And if they’re in groups they laugh and smile and I just leave it there. I can tell they would talk to me but the rest of the group would be like “wait who’s this random guy and why is she so smiley and talking alll of a sudden we gotta focus!”
Glad to see you happy Ouroboros
Thank you GenghisIronSpartanClaw
I’ll admit, it may sound like happiness, but really it’s a feeling of validation and confidence coming externally.
But I’m confident that’ll get internalized soon and become real happiness.
60-120s = fast execution, 3-5m = high recon high growth
When I ran KhanST2 @ 4m30s a few days ago, w/ 3min of RoTNW, I felt unbelievably powerful and alpha. Less congruent in interactions, but still got attraction.
Yesterday tho, I ran KhanST2for 90s and RoTNW for 2mins, and today i felt way more congruent, I felt like anyone I looked at was smiling and dropping what they were doing to talk to me (see above).
On top of the above report, my last interaction of the day was a girl I’ve been talking to for the last 2-3 days, and today she was much much more touchy, to the point of holding onto my hand very suggestively when I just gave her a “low high five” type goodbye… she held on to it like we were already lovers and this goodbye was a big deal to her.
Just goes to show, there’s a balance between low loop time when I want to express the subs (socially) and high loop time when I need to break through barriers and create big growth (which is worth big recon)
I have been falling in love with karaoke.
an ode to karaoke, 5 benefits
Did I say that already?
But yesterday I was in my car and sang Elvis Presley - can’t help falling in love four times and it induced a little cry. That was beautiful, and the psychologist in me saw it as a good thing… ”ah yes the emotional regulatory systems are operating at normal capacity, how sufficient.”
Car Karaoke has also been a great way to have fun at any moment. It’s always a good replacement to doom scrolling.
And it’s a great “primer” before going out and socializing. After car karaoke I feel like I could sing dance in front of 100 people, it’s part of why I’ve been getting such good results.
And finally, when I talk to karaoke and about how much I shamelessly love it, everyone around me, guys and girls, lights up completely and wants to join. So, social groups are forming around me, and my #1 khan goal rn is to create high status social groups where I’m regularly having fun and socializing with mixed gendered people.
A private message to @realitysmith about early (pre-this-thread) khan ST2 results.
ST2 first 2 loops
I sent a private report to @Realitysmith a bit ago but now that this is all public I can share a version of it.
This was written before I opened my khan thread.
You asked me to update you once I have a tester run of KhanST2. we’ll, women are throwing themselves at me this week, pretty much, and I’m not even trying to attract them, and I’m not even running a seduction sub (apart from testing khan).
Literally I have had girls (one example) just out of nowhere talk to me on IG, after 2 messages ask for my number, ask me out to coffee, and then after the coffee I asked her this question “if you could ask me anything, and I had to answer, what would you ask me?”
Just because it seemed fun… bro she asked me “if you could take me anywhere on vacation where would you take me and why?”
That is a downbad question.
Went to a movie by myself last night, but last second decided to be more social and hit a comedy club instead - next thing you know I’m accidentally on a date (watching the comedy show) with this gorgeous 19y/o that I started talking to and was very very in to me. And it’s only been 3 days since my ST2 loop. This is very very very out of the ordinary for me. It’s very unusual indeed.
EDIT: Present tense Ouroboros here again with an update. This girl and I after an incredible connection exchanged IG’s. I asked her to a comedy show first msg. She didn’t respond. I didn’t take it personally, but I noted that in my head as a learning lesson. I must have done something wrong to get ghosted.
But then last night at 4am I ran 10s of ROTNW, and 60s of WB, and when I woke up at 9am I had a message from her saying she would love to meet up for a comedy show again. Really showed me that I shouldn’t get attached, as I was genuinely dissapointed and liked her. And also, subs are magic

So, RoTNW for the direct stamina control
After a few weeks, and the nervousness subsides, do you have absolute stamina control? Can you voluntarily retain the nectar or is there still an involuntary release if arousal is too intense?
stamina mastery response = it takes longer than that
I’m less than a week in. But stamina can be a big issue for me so I think it’ll take more than a few weeks for total mastery.
All the sexual performance subs, even PR, work like crazy for me while in a relationship. But that’s a relationship. Not a new fling. And since stamina issues are worse with new partners for me, there’s probably a lot more than just physical to overcome here, and it’ll take a lot longer
Top tier 10/10 fun night. My heart is overflowing with fulfillment after how much fun me and my friends just had. This is real happiness @Spartan
Example of Wanted Black I usually get shy when meeting or trying to talk to new girls. Although the amount of opportunities are high, the success rate of me taking action on those opportunities are harder due to the shyness which makes it lower.
I had a chance to experience this first hand….
Khan made me VERY confident talking to new people. I actually see KHAN as the “lazy man’s harem” that @Realitysmith is trying to create. On Kahn, all I have to do is exist and any girl I talk to seems to be attracted to me, and any comment I make (like stupid ones) are jaw droppers to them that captivate their attention. Huge confidence. Like the whole room is just full of people who WISH I would grace them with a few words.
Wanted Black makes me feel shy to approach new people but makes me VERY confident sexualizing interactions within my friend group or with girls I’ve already met and have a basic relationship with.
I agree. On Khan I felt the push and the confidence to approach any girl. On WB, I don’t feel the push like I felt on Khan. And I feel a little reserved as well.
But the confidence in general and sexual energy is highhh on WB.
The stories from tonight are absolutely insane. Most of the actually features of the story: girls holding touch for extremely long amounts of time, for example, or when I’m sitting throwing themselves against my chest for me to cuddle them, these kinds of things happened again tn
What I’m really proud of is how my mindset has changed.
Before Khan… sex and making out with girls were metrics to measure success. Kissing a girl was a “win”. Not kissing a girl was a loss. And I needed wins for validation.
Now, I am the validation.
While this girl and I were basically cuddling in the bar half the night I never really once had an interest in turning it sexual tonight. Not even a kiss. It would have been easy. My hands were on her thighs wherever I wanted. We practically cuddled half the night in the bar, in between singing our hearts out to all the karaoke performances and/or dancing like lunatics. Then I drove her home and after I got to her house, parked and told her a ghost story (with my face close to hers) for twenty minutes.
Kissing her at minimum would have been effortless. She probably was even thinking she was trying to somehow manage to kiss me tonight. I know the exact moment she wanted me to kiss her, I just didn’t want to.
But old me would have needed that kiss to prove the night was a success, or to get a dopamine rush. And then felt ashamed and unworthy if I didn’t get a kiss.
New me is honest with myself and doesn’t need any of that validation. The goal has also changed. I want connections as powerful as that. I got one. I just want that level of connection with multiple women - sexually or platonically is way less important.
Teasing a girl and making her wait hahaha
Very nice
You’re making me want to cut my cycle short and switch to Khan, no joke.
No joke, Khan is the lazy man’s harem builder