A journey of independence, love and acceptance: Khan-HOM-Dragon

Journals - Major Programs
#42

If by attraction you mean women approaching you, then I agree no sub is even close to Emperor for that.

My experience:

  1. Emperor: women find reasons to interact with you, they crave your presence
  2. PS: you get 90% of women hooked in less than 5 minutes with your playfulness and sexual innuendos
  3. Khan: hit or miss because I’m more sexual, and no apologies because I’m attracted and want to fuck her. But a hit with Khan will get you laid

I don’t feel comfortable talking about wanted, since I never ran it exclusively.

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#43

I think it’s hit or miss because you come of as very very sexual and attractive. It’s so much attraction that it intimidates women. They hadn’t seen or been in a vicinity of an attractive perfect man like you.

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#44

HOM-KHAN

I usually wait at least a week before posting initial thoughts, but here goes after 3 days.
I really like this combo: both HOM and Khan have that detachment that I enjoy. HOM does takes a bit off the edge of Khan, and it’s making me more courteous, more poetic when complementing women. I REALLY enjoy the beginning of this stack.

I’m considering taking off Spartan and replacing it with Emperor while working out, I’m just a bit afraid Emperor will take away from the detachment. we’ll see.

I think wanted is the most energy draining sub I have ever run: yesterday I felt a headache sneaking up on me, so I tried to take a nap. Complete crash in 2 minutes and woke up 2 hours later in perfect shape.

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#45

Yeah, but not only that. With PS (and any variation of PS-Stark for example), she will be hooked even if she already decided not to fuck you. Your carefree attitude, playfulness make her feel good and she wants more of that. Again, even if she knows she won’t fuck you.
With Khan, there is no external incentive for her: she either crave you or she doesn’t. If she doesn’t, she will feel uncomfortable being part of the interaction. And that’s absolutely fine, no man will ever have ALL the women.
They are both good: PS is fun, you don’t really care if she says no to fucking after 2 days. With Khan, it’s either your way or the highway.

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#46

So I’ve run Emperor instead of Spartan yesterday. Fuck, I missed that feeling of absolute confidence and power.

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#47

I was feeling under the weather yesterday, so while in bed I’ve run the whole day emperor and wanted. Today I feel optimistic, full of love to give others.

Reading some posts and based on what I experienced as well, I think there is quite a bit of overlap between khan and wanted in the “i live in the moment an enjoy it area”. So, I’ll drop khan a bit and see how things are going. So my next day stack:
HOM - Emperor - Wanted - PS(for spatan lite and impecable style). RICH stays there as well.

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#48

Interesting find today: I usually run during the day 3 loops of wanted, followed by 5 loops of khan. At the end of the day I’m really spent, letargic.
Today by mistake I’ve run about 2 loops of emperor in the morning and 7 loops of Wanted solace, and I feel energetic and alive. I always thought it’s wanted who drains my energy, but it seems it’s the khan-wanted combo. I’ll see tomorrow if it was a one time deal.

#49

My gf went into a pretty nasty reconciliation from the nightly stack (3 x HOM and spartan), so I’ve decided to take it easy and take the Dragon route for 4 months.
So, for the next 4-5 months, my stack will be:
Night: Paragorn / DR x 2 / Diamond / Sex Mastery / Sanguine Q x 2
Day: RICH x2 solace, Experor X4, wanted x2

#50

Confession time: I’m all over the place with my stack, in the name of “experimentation”, I keep changing stacks. Like I’m looking for the one stack that will do everything for me, instead of supporting my goals.
Shame on me :smiley: I’ll take a break and decide on a stack for the next 3 months.

#51

Break almost over, and I’m considering this stack
Night: Stark / RM
Day: Wanted / HOM
with a pinch of SM, RICH

pinging @Azriel since you’ve run all these subs in the past

#52

It’s been almost one month since I changed my stack, and this will be my stack until at least end of 2021.
HOM-DRAGON-KHAN / RICH-COMMANDER
Boosters: Diamond / BLU

Why? I want my drive and growth to come from a stable mentality, planning and detachment, rather from a on the moment creativity and daily push to do things. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.
Sometimes I add a bit of Spartan / Sanguine, so I’ll test for 2 weeks the addition of Primal Seduction (1 loop) since it has both and the style component in it.
Following the new recommendations, I’ll run the night stack (HOM-DR) every Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. Daily stack (Khan-PS): Monday to Friday.

Thoughts on various combos / programs trialed:

  1. Wanted: great sub if you are looking for a good time. I would not combine it with any subs mean to help you achieve things (unless the ration is way higher for the achieving sub)
  2. RM-Khan: great combination, RM adds some liveness to Khan. But it also takes away form the chillness, detachment, ultra-boss attitude of Khan. I won’t combine them in the future.
  3. HOM-Khan: excellent combo. While you won’t fall in love with this combo because it’s missing the excitement, joie de vivre, crazy drive it’s one of the most balanced combos I’ve ever tried. Both Khan and HOM seem social, but from a “I want, not need” position. Both rely on planning, thinking ahead. In my relationship, I was never in a better place: I still get my gf adoring my as she always does when I run Khan, but also challenge both of us for a better life(HOM). Difficult discussion are happening, not avoided for us to grow. Even if we somehow end up splitting up, we both feel rejoiced to try getting a much better life than being complacent with what we have. I’ll talk more about this combo for the rest of the year.

@RVconsultant asking you kindly if you can change in the title thread: “Emperor-Dragon-Wanted” to “Khan-HOM-Dragon”.

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#53

How far are you into Dragon Reborn?

I’m 3 weeks into stage 1 and I’m interested in your stack because you’re combining Dragon Reborn with other elements. But so far you’ve described the other elements much more than Dragon Reborn. I was wondering if this is because you’re still feeling new to DR.

#54

I’m actually 2 months into ST1. Pondering if I should continue another month with ST1 or go into ST2…

Maybe parts of what I am describing is affected by DR, but tbh I’ve run all programs listed (except HOM) a lot in the past and it’s difficult for me to identify DR specific things…

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#55

Yes. The age-old guessing dilemma of those of us who like running stacks.

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#56

This year I can’t afford being sidetracked in any way by recon, so running DR with other programs and less loops sounds like a solid plan in theory. We’ll see how ST2 works starting tomorrow.

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#57

Here’s my schedule:
Night stack (Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun): 2x HOM / 1x DTST2 / 1x Diamond / 1x SM / 2x Sanguine Qv1
In between tracks I use a brainwave enhancer track: Aurora.

Day stack(Mon - Friday)
1x Commander(when I wake up) / 3x Khan ST4 / 1x PS / 1X RICH

@RVconsultant tagged as requested. I’ve run extensively most programs in the past:
Khan: 2+ year ST4 (alone / stacked or in a custom)
PS: 6+ months
RICH: 4+ months
Commander: 3+ months
SM: 2+ year
Diamond: 3+ months
HOM: 2+ months
DR ST2: STARTING TODAY :dancing_men:

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#58

Thank you. I understand that you are probably running HOM and Sanguine as your primaries. Please consider dropping them to 1 loop rather than 2.

#59

Thanks for the topic title update man.
Khan is the big boy running the show for me, part of my daily stack. During the night, my gf is exposed to subs as well, so I can’t really use masculine programs like Khan.

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#60

My friend,
I’m sorry I missed your tag before, but it looks like you have your stack set.
Once again, mental beasting in a way only you could :slight_smile:

Essentially I see Khan and HOM as the main drivers with supplementation in wealth and sexuality with the other programs. I think those are great choices based off what we have discussed in the past.

Considering my noticing this now-a manifestation of HOM lol

#61

Ha, no worries man, it all worked out for the better.
I believe even more now that programs should compliment each other for best results. And honestly, I don’t see a better complementary program to Khan other than HOM, since both rely on relaxed dominance.

I can’t wait to read in your journal: “today I started my Khan journey…”