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#562

Question from @Constantine (original post):

@qOS : Thank you. Could you do Reforged + PEACE + Executive as well?

Summary

@Constantine — yes, Emperor Reforged + PEACE + Emperor: The Executive is a sound stack, and it is the steadiest of the three. Reforged and Executive work as described in the earlier breakdown. PEACE adds a settled base beneath both.

What PEACE adds

PEACE helps you develop a settled baseline that does not depend on the day going well. Return to the Root gives you a felt way back to that ground mid-meeting or mid-task. The Quiet Axis widens the gap between what happens and what you do about it. PEACE does not reduce drive. It changes where motivation comes from, so work runs on clarity and rest instead of pressure.

With Reforged

PEACE and Reforged are built on the same idea. Neither forges a new self. Reforged helps you recognise the sovereign underneath the need to prove. PEACE helps you return to the whole ground underneath every role you have had to play. Knowing Enough in PEACE and Reforged’s release of the urge to prove cover close ground, so that quality gets a strong emphasis. Both tend to show first as what stops: less bracing, less chasing, less overexplaining.

With Executive

Effortless Action in PEACE helps you set down the strain you layer on top of work while the work stays as capable. Executive works on starting without the internal debate, holding focus and finishing what you start. Together, output may climb while each task costs you less. Because Reforged and PEACE both work quietly, Executive gives you the most visible measure of the stack: what got done.

How it compares

  • The Phoenix stack is the demanding rebuild, with the most movement and the most reconciliation.
  • The Attuned stack points your sovereignty toward love and relationships.
  • The PEACE stack puts a settled nervous system under everything, with no clearing title in it. Old material can still surface, and it tends to resolve gently.

Run the PEACE stack if what is in your way is strain, overthinking or the pressure to prove, and you want Executive’s output without the cost. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

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#563

@qOS I have a 22 year old friend in college studying to be a dentist. He has lived a sheltered life by successful and rich parents who more or less tried to mould him into being obedient and successful at the cost of his autonomy. But he resisted and chose his own path now living and studying far away. He has never had a girlfriend and no experience with women

He is a great guy at heart. Strong personality, inner resolve and is surprisingly quite flexible and quick to learn. While he is quite young, I suggested he runs Emperor Daddy which he did for 6 months due to it being similar to his own style. He is quite eccentric, talks, dresses and acts like someone much older but it hasn’t quite translated into actual skills with seduction and dating

What 2 subs / stack would you recommend for someone like him excluding Emperor Daddy which has elevated him a lot but has not quite helped him make direct progress in getting action much less his goal and that is a girlfriend. His biggest struggle isn’t being social or having a weak frame. He is simply oblivious to the game, he’s also INTP

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#564

@Saiyan4Blue i recommended a friend of mine Wanted Dream Boy and it worked incredibly quickly for him, and he now has a long term girlfriend he’s really growing a life with, including being involved in her children’s life so u know it ain’t casual

The aythenticity of WDB makes it a good recommendation for anyone, so long as they want the WDB style of emotional vulnerability and openness to relationships - which it sounds like he does!

WDB + EmpD overall the long haul would be an incredible stack!!!

You could also recommend he switch out EmpD for Emperor: Reforged so that he keeps up the momentum with the EmpD results in every area of his life, but also, gets the latest version and a more holistic inner growth work

I know I’m not qOs just my two cents

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#565

And yet that “two cents” is still a priceless Pearl of Wisdom. :wink:

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#566

@qOS Emperor: Reforged, OG Stark and New WANTED stack.

#567

@qOS personally，I notice that strong desire/expectation could accelerate the manifestation process for me，but I need to carefully balance it ，too much of it will land on the scarcity‘s side ，which might hinder the situation。so I wonder if KB could help me reach that balanced state。strong desire but controlled/without neediness/scarcity ？my goal is to have a strong desiring state and still focused ，clean and controlled。 so I could use those strong feeling to fuel my creation towards various areas ，mostly about artistic creation ，money creation and getting different things done。I wonder if I go through KB each stage in order then build a Name embedded major title with the core KB st 4 and New result enhancing experience core。will that be a suitable and valid build for my goal。

#568

Thank you qOS and Saint. :slightly_smiling_face:

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#569

I’m also not qOS nor do I have as much experience with subs as someone like Jouissance but I want to weigh in a bit because the INTP point is something I’ve actually been thinking about recently.

Long Post

I’m an INTP myself and quite a bit older than your friend. In the past, like 5+ years ago, I’d actually read most of what Jung wrote on personality types, a few academic texts on it (there’s a book specifically on INTPs by Dr. A.J. Drenth that I remember being pretty good; he’s also an INTP himself), but I hadn’t really paid it any mind for a while.

But I was just thinking the other day: “you know, a lot of my work on subs (and in general) has revolved around dealing with common INTP weaknesses”.

This is stuff like overthinking, disinterest in mundane tasks/conversations, aversion to too much structure/routine, etc.

However, the most disruptive thing for INTPs is their “inferior” function, Extraverted Feeling.

For people who aren’t aware, your inferior function is “weak”, in the sense that it’s underdeveloped, but it’s actually a core part of who you are and has a very strong emotional charge, both positive and negative.

https://personalityjunkie.com/02/introverted-thinking-ti-extraverted-feeling-fe-intps-entps-istps-estps/

So, I could be wrong, but I wouldn’t be surprised if your friend relates to something like: there’s a part of him that cares less about what other people think (hence being willing to be outwardly eccentric) but there’s another part of him that REALLY cares about what other people think. As well as a part that is kind of emotionally detached from other people but another part that REALLY wants deep emotional connection. They may understand emotions but not know how to express or manage them smoothly.

With that in mind, I think WDB could be great. But it’s a little more external, as far as I understand.

E.g., Saint/qOS suggest combining WDB with Symphony (Heartsong Stage 2), as well as running Attuned (HS St 1) before WDB.

This is relevant, because I personally feel like new HS may be THE foundational relationship title for INTPs. With Attuned actually digging deep on the Extraverted Feeling issues and Symphony helping express them.

I think Reforged is also very relevant here as not only does the copy address the ability to express oneself romantically without viewing it as a judgement on their self worth, but this is my first cycle with it – and it makes me VERY aware of all the ways I’m mentally fixating on what other people thing. And interestingly, lately I’ve started to notice when other people (through their body language, etc.) seem to be worried about what I or others are thinking about them.

Plus, as I think a lot of us know, modern dating can be brutal for young men, especially if they’re inexperienced and/or interested in more serious relationships. Hence the more foundational, masculine, frame-holding title as a backbone.

In short, I’d be really curious how Reforged + Attuned works for them, then moving on to WDB/Symphony, etc. later. Partially because that’s possibly my next stack :joy:

I’d add that, even though this stack is more “internal”, at least until Reforged starts pushing outwards, INTPs don’t tend to care about being social butterflies and you say he doesn’t actually have problems socializing. So, just feeling more comfortable in his emotions could have already external effects. Their feeling function is already outward facing, by nature.

But again, qOS could completely disagree with me.

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#570

@Jouissance @Constantine Yeah I remember he did try WDB for a while before last year before using Emperor Daddy and Limitless. This makes my initial suggestion for him WDB + HS stage 1 before seeing what qOS will say

Also the thing about him is that he is quite, and I mean QUITE nerdy and geeky. His interests and topics are things barely anyone has even heard or considered. Every month he gets a new obsession about things that like 1920’s fridges, Historical/political factions, Some obscure era and genre of music etc and that’s kind of what makes him eccentric, unlike ENTPs who effortlessly charm others while being quirky and a bit out there.

He lacks awareness of nuanced social ques, comes off too strong and doesn’t quite know when and how to read the room and is utterly hopeless in catching much less acting on attraction signals. His experiences with WDB and Emperor Daddy have mostly helped him become more solid, confident and being able to place boundaries and to withdraw his investment when and if he isn’t appreciated. To his credit, he has cold approached, made short connections but has been rejected repeatedly. Its why i think the ideal choice is HS stage 1 + SSX

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#571

@qOS

if one wanted to increase height after 28 years old, would commanding stature work or would they have to use height inducer module too

or are those modules only limited for people under 22 and over 18

#572

Hello @qOS

Which of the following modules are present in Daredevil Core? They don’t have to be exact one on one scripting but the functions are close:

  1. Storyteller
  2. Dragon Tongue
  3. Song of Joy
  4. True Sell
  5. Living Truth
  6. Finding Your Voice
  7. Whispered Power
  8. Power Talk
  9. Gentleman’s Speech
  10. Charisma & Flirting Automatic Mentor/Improver

Would like to know which of the above modules i can remove from my custom if it has Daredevil Core in it.

Thank you.

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#573

Question from @Lion (original post):

Hello @qOS Which of the following modules are present in Daredevil Core? They don’t have to be exact one on one scripting but the functions are close: Storyteller Dragon Tongue Song of Joy True Sell Living Truth Finding Your Voice Whispered Power Power Talk Gentleman’s Speech Charisma & Flirting Automatic Mentor/Improver Would like to know which of the above modules i can remove from my custom if it has Daredevil Core in it. Thank you.

Summary

@Lion — Story Teller is the one to remove, and Dragon Tongue is the next candidate if you need another slot. None of these modules is part of Daredevil Core, because each is a separate custom module, so the question is how much of each one’s ground Daredevil already covers.

Close overlap: Story Teller. Storytelling is the centre of Daredevil. It helps you turn everyday experiences into stories people remember, shape and pace them for an audience, and become the person a room gathers around. Story Teller works on the same skill, so with Daredevil Core in the build its slot is the easiest to free.

Partial overlap: Dragon Tongue and Charisma & Flirting Automatic Mentor/Improver.

  • Dragon Tongue shares Daredevil’s public speaking and voice work. It adds focused work on wit, debate and reframing situations to your advantage. Dragon Tongue earns its slot if sharp, quick speech is a priority for you.
  • Charisma & Flirting Automatic Mentor/Improver grew from a concept developed in Sex & Seduction, Primal Seduction and Daredevil, so Daredevil already carries the idea, although its romance side is light. The module works like an ongoing coach in seduction. It guides you to the right actions, helps you see your mistakes and leads you to material worth learning from. Keep it if you want that coaching pronounced. Otherwise the slot can go elsewhere.

Adds what Daredevil does not:

  • Song of Joy develops your own brand of humour and the comic timing that goes with it.
  • True Sell is the dedicated sales module. Daredevil’s stories may help a pitch land, and True Sell builds the selling and negotiating itself.
  • Power Talk goes deep into subtext and the power dynamics carried in every sentence.
  • Gentleman’s Speech refines the elegance of your speech and manners and clears out filler words like “uh” and “um”.
  • Living Truth goes much further into authenticity than Daredevil does. It builds the courage to be true to yourself without needing outside validation.
  • Finding Your Voice works on your own opinions and on what you think and want. It has nothing to do with your speaking voice, so it does not overlap with Daredevil’s vocal work.
  • Whispered Power gives a soft-spoken voice quiet weight, so your words may land with more impact without being raised. Daredevil trains bold projection and theatricality, so Whispered Power adds a quality Daredevil does not aim for.

Remove Story Teller first. If you need a second slot, let Dragon Tongue go next. Keep the seven that add what Daredevil does not, and decide on Charisma & Flirting Automatic Mentor/Improver by how much you want the seduction coaching pronounced.

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#574

Question from @themadsexyscientist (original post):

@qOS if one wanted to increase height after 28 years old, would commanding stature work or would they have to use height inducer module too or are those modules only limited for people under 22 and over 18

Summary

@themadsexyscientist — no, neither module is limited to an age window. Commanding Stature and Emperor Fitness Height Inducer carry no 18 to 22 limit and no upper age.

What each module does
Commanding Stature treats height as part of attraction and presence. It helps your body carry itself taller and straighter, with posture that emphasises length, legs that look longer and shoulders aligned for vertical impact. It works through subtle adjustments or a fuller change, depending on the person.

Emperor Fitness Height Inducer is the dedicated height module. Its whole aim is to support height growth, which depends on time and on action taken in line with it.

Which to use
If actual height is the goal, Height Inducer is the one to include, since supporting height growth is what it is built for. Commanding Stature adds the posture and presence side, and the two can sit together in the same custom.

One note: physical scripting can take weeks, months or years and depends heavily on individual attributes, so no module can promise a set amount of height or a result at any particular age. For your custom, that means Emperor Fitness Height Inducer for height and Commanding Stature for posture and presence.

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#575

Question from @Saiyan4Blue (original post):

@qOS I have a 22 year old friend in college studying to be a dentist. He has lived a sheltered life by successful and rich parents who more or less tried to mould him into being obedient and successful at the cost of his autonomy. But he resisted and chose his own path now living and studying far away. He has never had a girlfriend and no experience with women He is a great guy at heart. Strong personality, inner resolve and is surprisingly quite flexible and quick to learn. While he is quite young, I suggested he runs Emperor Daddy which he did for 6 months due to it being similar to his own style. He is quite eccentric, talks, dresses and acts like someone much older but it hasn’t quite translated into actual skills with seduction and dating What 2 subs / stack would you recommend for someone like him excluding Emperor Daddy which has elevated him a lot but has not quite helped him make direct progress in getting action much less his goal and that is a girlfriend. His biggest struggle isn’t being social or having a weak frame. He is simply oblivious to the game, he’s also INTP

Summary

@Saiyan4Blue — yes, Sex & Seduction X with Heartsong Stage 1: Attuned is the pair I would choose for him, and it is the stack you landed on in your follow-up. Sex & Seduction X is one of the older titles in line for an upgrade, and it works now as written. Emperor Daddy and Wanted: Dream Boy have already given him frame, confidence and boundaries. What he is missing now is skill in the moment: reading a woman’s signals, pacing himself, and learning from each interaction instead of repeating the same approach. That is where these two titles work.

Sex & Seduction X for the game itself
The X version was built for men who are still working on the basics, not only for those who already have instincts for dating. Its New Romance Experience helps bring him into favourable romantic situations at the level he is at now, so each encounter may become something he learns from. It helps him read the desires and boundaries of the woman in front of him, recognise the signals she gives, and time his words and moves to them. That speaks directly to coming on too strong and missing attraction signals. It also builds a seduction style out of his own personality rather than a borrowed technique, so his eccentric interests can stay part of who he is. It asks for action, so he still has to go out and talk to people.

Heartsong Stage 1: Attuned for the heart behind it
Attuned is Heartsong’s recommended starting stage, and it suits someone who has never had a relationship. Curious About You helps him ask questions he does not know the answers to and keep listening past the point where he would usually turn to his own topic. That helps when his current obsession is one few people share. Secure Ground settles the pattern of reaching too hard and then pulling back too fast. Rejection Without Verdict helps a no land as information about the other person rather than a judgement on him, which matters after repeated rejections. Seeing Them, Not the Picture helps him meet the real woman in front of him instead of an idea of her. Sex & Seduction X works on skill and Attuned works on readiness for a girlfriend, so the two do not overlap.

The other suggestions in the thread
Wanted: Dream Boy is a strong romance title, and it does carry some calibration. Velvet Secrets eases over-explaining and oversharing, and Lips Before They Touch sharpens his sense of pacing and nonverbal signals. He has already run it, though, and its centre is presence and magnetism, which he has built. Its natural place is later, beside Heartsong Stage 2: The Symphony, a pairing Heartsong recommends.

Emperor Reforged is not a newer version of Emperor Daddy. It is its own title on a different route, recognition rather than forging, and it works mainly on sovereign presence and settled worth. His frame is already strong, so Reforged would mostly work where he is already solid. Heartsong does recommend Attuned + Emperor Reforged as a pairing, so that is a good choice for a later season.

A custom option
If he would rather run one custom, a build around the same two titles could carry:

  • Sex & Seduction X Core
  • Heartsong Core Stage 1
  • New Romance Experience Core, for broad romance coverage beside the version already inside Sex & Seduction X
  • Seductive Calibration, which helps him read situations and adjust his behaviour to them
  • Deep Listening, so the people he talks with feel heard
  • Way of Understanding, which helps him see the motivations, emotions and desires of the people around him
  • Approachability Aura, which softens boldness that comes across as too intense so people feel free to approach him

My recommendation
Start him on Sex & Seduction X + Heartsong Stage 1: Attuned and have him keep approaching. Once Attuned has settled and he is meeting women regularly, Heartsong Stage 2: The Symphony is the next step toward a girlfriend, and Wanted: Dream Boy pairs with it if he wants magnetism added to the search. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

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#576

Question from @BlissAdventurer (original post):

@qOS Emperor: Reforged, OG Stark and New WANTED stack.

Summary

@BlissAdventurer — yes, Emperor Reforged + Stark ZP + the new WANTED works as a stack. All three point toward the same man, one with presence, attraction and ambition, and nothing in them works against another. It is a full and demanding stack with a lot of shared ground, so it suits someone who already runs at least one of these titles comfortably.

What each title brings
Emperor Reforged is the identity layer. It builds sovereignty by recognition: the need to prove falls away, and authority, voice, body, wealth and romance start to come from one settled centre. It is inward, but an identity shift acts at once, so it tends to show early in your posture, your voice and the way you enter a room.

Stark ZP is the genius-playboy title. It carries rewritten Limitless intelligence scripting, Emperor-style empire building aimed at your own company or at becoming the leading expert in your field, and broad charisma, magnetism and opportunity manifestation. It also has the most extensive fame scripting in the catalogue. If you do not want attention, Stark ZP is not the title to run.

The new WANTED is the attraction specialist. Its WANTED Royal Aura is mostly mystery, with smaller layers of sexiness, fame and openness. The WANTED State helps you drop into an easy, playful state for seduction. Wholeness in Connection helps dissolve neediness and unworthiness through the time you spend with women, with very little extra load. It also carries physical shifting, grooming and style scripting.

Where they overlap
Romance runs through all three. Reforged helps you want a woman without chasing her. WANTED puts you in the position of the one being pursued. Stark adds charm and magnetism that work with anyone. These pull in the same direction, so together they pronounce attraction.

Attention overlaps between Stark’s fame scripting and the fame layer in WANTED’s aura, so you may notice more visibility than either would bring alone. Reforged sits well beside that. It builds presence that does not need applause, which helps you stay level when the attention comes.

Wealth overlaps between Reforged and Stark. Reforged separates self-worth from net worth and builds stewardship and multiple streams of income. Stark drives toward building something large. Run together, your ambition may stay big while the desperation behind it eases.

What to weigh
Stark ZP recommends its pairing with the original Emperor for experienced listeners only. Emperor Reforged is a different title on a different route, so that advice does not apply to it directly, but this stack still asks a lot: three full major titles, each working on status, romance and identity at once. WANTED is also not quite a beginner title.

My recommendation
If you already run Reforged or WANTED comfortably, the stack is sound: Reforged as the centre, WANTED for attraction, and Stark for intelligence, wealth and visibility. If all three are new to you, start with the one closest to your main goal and bring the others in once you know how it runs for you. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

#577

Question from @Sebastian_Po (original post):

@qOS personally，I notice that strong desire/expectation could accelerate the manifestation process for me，but I need to carefully balance it ，too much of it will land on the scarcity‘s side ，which might hinder the situation。so I wonder if KB could help me reach that balanced state。strong desire but controlled/without neediness/scarcity ？my goal is to have a strong desiring state and still focused ，clean and controlled。 so I could use those strong feeling to fuel my creation towards various areas ，mostly about artistic creation ，money creation and getting different things done。I wonder if I go through KB each stage in order then build a Name embedded major title with the core KB st 4 and New result enhancing experience core。will that be a suitable and valid build for my goal。

Summary

@Sebastian_Po — yes, Khan Black: The Crucible is built for that state: strong desire that you direct, without the desire running you. Your build plan is also sound.

Strong desire without the scarcity
Neediness comes from shallow, restless energy that needs the next hit. Khan Black works the other way, by growing a deep reserve underneath desire. Firelight, Not Floodlight in Stage I helps the cheap stimulation lose its pull. Steady at Full Charge in Stage II keeps your mind clear and your manner even while the charge is at its strongest. In Stage III, Still, Not Stagnant helps what you hold stay fresh, so fullness feels like calm instead of pressure. The Deep Lake lets a passing charge ripple across the surface and move on without seizing your attention. To Keep or to Kindle develops the choice of when to hold that energy and when to use it, as instinct rather than discipline.

Fuel for art, money and getting things done
This is where Stage III does its main work. Where the Fire Goes puts the direction of your energy in your hands, so it goes behind the creative project, the business plan or the training block you choose. The Fire Finds the Work helps kindled energy arrive in the shape of the task, as focus at the desk or drive in the hard conversation. The Finer Form in Stage II helps surplus energy refine into clarity, which may be the evening the writing or the problem finally gets done. Khan Black treats sexual energy as the source of creative drive, which fits your aim closely.

Your build
Running the four stages in order, I through IV, is how Khan Black is designed. A name-embedded major title on the Khan Black Stage 4 Core plus the New Result Enhancing Experience Core is a valid build afterwards. The Stage 4 Core is the one Khan Black core that needs no build designed around it, because by Stage 4 the whole craft runs on its own underneath whatever it sits with. The New Result Enhancing Experience Core is the NSE core aimed at amplifying results, and it processes the other core through its framework.

If you later want the fire pointed harder at art or wealth, the Stage 4 Core can also sit in a full custom beside creative and wealth modules. Khan Black is an Artisanal title, intended for experienced listeners. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

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#578

@qOS

  1. Could you please give me a comprehensive description of results I can expect from running this custom in daily life and particularly when around women? Love Bomb Core | Aura of Craving | Auric Overdriver | Earthshaker – Sexuality | Focused Arousal | Inner Gasoline

  2. Could you tell me how it would differ from the results using the same custom but with Primal Nights added in too: Love Bomb Core | Primal Nights Core | Aura of Craving | Auric Overdriver | Earthshaker – Sexuality | Focused Arousal | Inner Gasoline

  3. Could you compare the difference in effects / results between the aura from aura of craving versus the aura from primal nights on a male user and on women attracted to him in these scenarios: attracting women in public (“cold approach”), attracting women on a dinner date in public, escalating to sex in a private place, consensual sexy time in a private place (effects on womans arousal / sexual enjoyment in particular)

Thank you!

#579

Those exact same qualities can serve him ONCE he decides to take on this part of life and really figure it out. And he’ll do that when it clicks for him. The same thing that makes him less socially successful right now is going to help him. (In short, he does what HE’S interested in.) Just needs some more seasoning.

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#580

True - makes me wonder what title would emphasize his biggest strengths?

Because limitless and RM, for example, both have just the slightest bit of romance scripting helping to attract people who appreciate smart/creative people respectively

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#581

@qOS can you explain the differences between sanguine and elixir? in what situations one would be better than the other seems the elixir has everything sanguine has plus emotional? also I want to run either one with primal seduction which one would be more compatible with it?