I think its some recon from reforged expressing itself making me feel heavy, i did get a nightmare when i took it to 1min 30s it wasnt just today yesterdsy was also struggle wich isnt the norm for me i think extra processing from reforged could be affecting parago results as well
@qOS what should one do in a situation where they are using emperor reforged for 2 months with micro loops and when they go over 1 minute they experience recon thag also seems to regress results from the other title in the stack “paragon” but even when they listen close to their sweet spot under the limit that would produce recon they dont experience any change despite taking action? Does the subliminal just not gel with the individual?
Have you considered you’re stretching yourself thin?
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What does your sleep look like? Are you taking vitamins?
5-6 times a week in the gym plus all the other stuff seems like a full load …. Are you pushing it really hard in the gym?
What kind of results are you looking to see from reforged?
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Like I wouldn’t have managed that load in my twenties. That’s before piling on commutes, cleaning, cook, chores, errands, family obligations, etc.
@Judoka I admire the hustle, but remember to rest when you can.
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Usually 6-8 hours a night I try to sleep enough until i feel rested if im deprived i just go home and sleep after work and weekends i just sleep as much as i want till im satisfied
In the gym well id say i just put in enough to try and grow and then rest as much as i want inbetween sets even 3-5 minutes i dont put a measure on it obviously im not going till failure all the time as then id just get burned out and injured very quickly
No i dont take vitamins
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You should be taking vitamins if you are in the gym basically everyday even a basic multivitamin
Your body needs the nutrients…. It might help you with your energy aswell
My gym in like a 8 minute walk away and i try to avoid excercisees that tax the system like barbell squats,bench,barbell rows use machines and dumbells instead and i rest as much as i want inbetween sets 3-5 min so it helps and dont go till failure all the time remember stimulate dont annihilate
Where does it say this?
Also i didnt listen 2 and a half months straight im using the 21 day listening cycle every other day with a 4 day washout
This is not a health problem i havnt experience any new health changes i think this was actually recon from reforged causing this heavy feeling the the morning making me disinterested to go to work
Section 4.3 How Soon Can I Expect Results, and Will the Results Stop If I Stop Listening?
As a general rule of thumb though, many users report seeing minor changes around day 30, strong changes around day 90, and MAJOR changes at six months. Using a subliminal title is like going to the gym, you just can’t use it once a week for an hour and expect huge changes in your life. They require consistent, regular use. It really is like going to the gym — with regular training, you may notice your strength levels rapidly increasing. If you go sporadically, you may not see really good results.
Also i didnt listen 2 and a half months straight im using the 21 day listening cycle every other day with a 4 day washout
You gotta be specific
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How many times are you seeing this kind of feeling with your energy?
Is it consistent through out the day?
Maybe it’s time to put down paragon and just run reforged
Maybe paragon is taxing your body more than you can handle right now with everything else you have going on on your extremely busy schedule
I would caution that with everything you are doing
You should be taking vitamins of some sort so you get that extra nutrition to keep your body at peak conditions
every exercise is exhausting the nervous system. I’d say it’s the main thing that needs recovery, not the muscles themselves
my recommendation is to reduce gym and add TRE. Just try it for a month. Especially if the energy is a problem, it’s clearly a sign of nervous system exhaustion (I’ve been battling fatigue my whole life, TRE is the only thing that helped)
edit: make sure to do first TRE session on the weekend. If it’s nervous system exhaustion and inability to cope with stress, you will likely sleep 10-14+ hours (I often slept 16-18h when I just begun. It normalizes fast)
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After reading through some past personal journals i am now certain it is taking reforged to 1 min 30s that is causing me to feel all this heaviness and depression and recon ill have to take it back down to 30s tomorrow ill judt listen paragon to let my mind breathe from reforged for just a bit more
What if i dont feel resonence for either of them?
I just ask myself what i want (money,social aura,discipline/productivity,pyhsicalshifting) and see wich subliminals objectives is closer or shoud i choose another suub
Then you keep looking for soemthing that does.
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The 3 that seem to call out to me are emperor black,stark black and stark
Like I said before, Black is an Artisan title. if you’re struggling with reforged, you won’t do much better with a much more intense version.
qOS is right though. 3 to 6 months is a realistic timeframe. The guys who se immediate results out the gate, usually have a strong baseline from real world experiences, so their process much faster.
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Reforged is quite a bit newer than Black, so it might be worth a shot since we know ZPU is stronger than ZP. It sounds like @Judoka is more struggling to find an archetype he fits with more than anything.
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