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#1192

I think there’s a misunderstanding. It’s not that the script directly causes someone to leave, they are referring to the natural response that others will have toward you when they perceive that massive increase of status. At that point, people will start testing you and your response is naturally polarizing, since it’s not the same response you would’ve given before.

Anyone who falls off at that point is simply no longer in alignment with who you’re become. This is a real thing with Khan and any other high status product. There are some people who – for whatever reason – won’t be able to be handle the transformation. So the scripting doesn’t contain anything that deliberately pushes anyone away or somehow makes them disconnect. What it does is attempt to help you bring both your inner and outer reality into alignment. It is those subtle changes toward high status that drives some people away.

Perhaps you are speaking and acting with a bit too much authority for them, when they are used to a version of you that didn’t stand their ground hard enough. With the hard alphas, one should always expect that some people are not going to easily accept the change. We’ve seen people talk about this a lot (being tested as status rises) with both subs and pheromones. It is just the current state of the collective – perceived status and power brings challenge and separation.

Ultimately, conscious intention doesn’t work here because it’s the choice of those interacting with you if they continue to interact with you.

I must note something, and if this commentary is too personal, I apologize but just observing how you interact on the forum, your “voice” has become stronger and more self-assured. I see you engaging in more self-inquiry. During the True Sell focus sessions, your observations were sharp and in-depth. Now, this is from “the outside looking in,” but it’s my personal belief that you should question anyone who couldn’t handle this type of growth from you. But again, I can only go off of what I see here, ultimately you have to make that decision.

I will say that if you do feel like you’ve made a mistake while on Khan, a more relational title is more likely to achieve a reconciliation between two people. Summertime. PEACE. Upcoming Heartsong. Something that helps you touch the heart of another.

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#1193

@qOS this one got missed it looks like

#1194
Summary

The shape of the pairing

Khan Stage 4, Khan Complete, folds Stage 2’s reprogramming and Stage 3’s action together and adds three things: rapid intuitive decision-making that draws on everything the earlier stages taught you, complete independence and self-reliance paired with extensive social and professional manifestation, and alignment scripting that steadily brings your relationships, habits and environment into line with a life of success, status and ambition. It’s also the stage where romantic abundance shows fully, with the sexual and social dominance dialled to maximum.

True Sell Stage 4, The Empire, assumes you can already sell and works on converting that skill into wealth: extracting more from the channel already paying you, testing new channels without risking the core, raising your rate as your track record grows, proposing at full scale, walking into bigger rooms, packaging your own expertise, building a name that generates inbound business, keeping a portion of every payment, defining what “enough” means, and building ambition that survives decades.

They fit unusually well because they solve each other’s blind spots. Khan has only light wealth scripting by design; its page says the wealth effects come from everything else being dialled to the extreme. True Sell Stage 4 is the missing wealth architecture. In the other direction, True Sell is purely commercial and carries no romance, status-aura or dominance scripting at all; Khan supplies the presence that makes the bigger rooms open.

How the synergy affects Khan’s romance and seduction

Mostly indirectly, and mostly for the better. True Sell Stage 4 doesn’t touch romance, so Khan’s seduction runs at full strength. What The Empire adds is context. Khan Stage 4’s romantic abundance is built on status, independence and an aligned life; The Empire raises all three. A man whose rate reflects his track record, who’s building income streams and a name that brings business to him, and who has a defined idea of “enough,” carries exactly the kind of settled sovereignty Khan’s romance feeds on. Several Empire features also transfer directly: composure that doesn’t shift as stakes rise, the open hand that pursues fully without gripping the outcome, and the long fire that treats rest as part of performance. Those are seduction virtues as much as sales ones. The one thing to watch is that Khan’s push toward isolation while you build, combined with The Empire’s focus on capital-producing action, can crowd romance out of your calendar. Khan Stage 4’s alignment scripting will pull your life toward its vision, so make sure romance is deliberately in that vision.

How the synergy affects True Sell Stage 4’s wealth generation

This is where the pairing is strongest. The Empire’s biggest asks are behavioural: raise your price, propose the full scope, walk into the big room, initiate the compensation conversation, build the second stream. Those are all acts of nerve, and Khan Stage 4 is nerve at maximum: decisive action, ambition that outlines its own steps, resilience and conflict handling, and the Khan’s refusal to shrink. Khan’s social and professional manifestation and expanding network feed directly into The Empire’s inbound and reputation work, and Khan’s rapid intuitive decision-making sharpens the channel-testing and market-instinct side. Expect The Empire’s price and deal-size features to land faster and harder than they would on their own, because Khan removes the hesitation they’re designed to work around. The Empire returns the favour by giving Khan’s drive somewhere structured to go, so the ambition compounds into an asset base rather than burning off as activity.

Custom versus two store titles

As two store titles, each keeps its full scripting and you run the standard two-title pattern. This is the more flexible option, and the right one if you haven’t yet run Khan’s earlier stages.

As a two-core custom, you get name embedding, which tends to mean deeper acceptance and faster integration, and the two aims fuse into one identity rather than sitting side by side. It’s a dense build; expect longer at each micro-loop tier. The producer has also noted that Khan tends to work best in per-stage customs, so a Khan Stage 4 core with True Sell Stage 4 is a natural shape. There’s room for a module or two on top, and a settling core such as PEACE would cushion Khan’s intensity without dulling it.

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#1195

Got it, so it’s not a remote effect - based on something else.

The last time I saw this person was on Stage 3, and I would run a custom with Stage 4 in microloops before our interactions since the first time we met. I had thought something with the life alignment scripting would have been in the realm of remote/ manifestation/ gravity element of it, or a people remover if something in the scripting determined they were not aligned with my vision, even if I consciously wanted them in my life. Behaviourally, there was nothing different as I saw them last before I made the full transition to stage 4 Khan, although my text communication may have come off differently

I appreciate that comment, and I don’t know if this growth is responsible for their absence. I think what’s likely is there’s a dismissive-avoidant executive whose world is ‘on fire’ now and/or they wrote themselves off. Out of self-respect, I can’t reach out to them anymore or build any more bridges, and it made no sense given the relationship we had how everything ended. So was curious if the shift in stage may have contributed

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#1196

I’ve been testing the EOG: True Sell Stage 1 as a replacement for True Sell in my custom with R.I.C.H and NWE.

It ‘feels’ much more well presenting- like a well presenting- and less intense. My calls feel significantly less personal, but I also feel significantly more regulated and smart in my approach.

It’s not clear yet, performance-wise, there are elements of fun and raw personality that feel more natural from what I’m used to on OG true sell, but the way I am not carrying conversations into other conversations is brilliant on new TS.

Originally, when I switched, I had a huge boost in sales metrics, but there has been a decline/ dip as I’ve continued to run. My ASP was way higher, but one clawback may affect that. The month is very challenging with work changes.

A previous distribution meritocracy and structure that I benefited from - which I now see is a result of C&C and R.I.C.H has been dissolved. Since it was formed when I started running them together out of the blue

I’ll keep testing it this week. I can definitely see the value in the other stages, and we’ll see if stage 1 can maintain or improve performance. I definitely like the emotional elements of it.

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#1197

@qOS does EOG: True Sell Stage 3 work by giving the listener room to determine how to most effecively close or improve close rate or by developing the skills mentioned in the copy that are common deterents in ability to close? Or both?

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#1198

Will they emphasis on closing in EOG: True Sell Stage 3 help or translate Khan’s romantic or sexual context in more effectively- ‘closing’ romantically. Either in dates, sex, romance etc?

#1199

I switched from OG True Sell in custom to an updated custom with the new one. Stage 1

I am have 3 years of experience with the old version so keep that in my mind.

I’m going to share my experience so far, difference, and outcomes, the outcome is not indicative though of the sub.

  1. I’ve had one huge sale fairly quickly after testing, and decent multiple other sales since- the big high revenue sale are exected 1x a month but this was my second in 10 days. My other sales are minimal off of new calendared calls, and more renewal sales- which is less $ for me, I’ve been running EOG: True Sell Stage 1 in my updated custom for about 1 week now. My performance this current week is mid to low for me normally. The big sale was last friday when I only had run 10 seconds.My new client close rate is very low- lower than its ever been- this was starting to wane the week prior with a drop in lead quality.

  2. The conviction and alignment of leads is very low. Both materially (lack of foward movement-stated tire kicking intentions) and in my perception remarkabley low in the last week. This may or may not be an outcome of EOG: True Sell stage 1

  3. My emotional regulation and ability to not transfer from call to call is markedly better-but still has a breaking point inside the intensity of my stack and lower performance than normal.

  4. My presentation confidence is more aligned in a professional sense- I feel I present better in a ‘looking god’ and professional sense. My internal confidence and sense of personal relatedness feels down. I’m having trouble getting under the hood with people, hearing their real sense of things, unpacking things more. Things that are normally brilliant and second nature for more are harder- because it feels like I am met with more reisstance and less engagement than normal.

  5. My impulse for admin, and follow up is stronger but its yielded no results- I actually have very poor follow up normally- because my energy states- people can find a way back if they value this- I only follow up with high conviction people. I have impeccable integrity in agreement but I don’t engae in formality usually unless I sense its there. In B2C…I find myself now- being pulled to put energy into 'structural increasing the probability by follow up with everyone. This is one of those- logical structures to seal the gaps- vs. my own philosophy energetically things. By letting back go and not following up, I’m stating- this is your chance, I want to work with intentional high conviction people, there will always be another etc… will see how this alters though

  6. I find myself less automatic which is good and bad, my automaticity is mastery on some level now, something about running this is opening my brain up to being in a more real time conversation with people- which lowers authority-rather than just leading leading leading- but increases real time presence to nuance. I can hear and see thinks which help more.

  7. it has a little of the flavor of C&C for lead alignment- there is no ‘working’ people- its on or its not- and if its on-people are obsessed. I have gotten a few people talking how much they like me and I’m the reason they want to work with the company. Although a few of those have not converted to sales yet.

  8. I am much more self concious and less convicted- as the ‘prize’ in interactions- I feel a little like I can slip into overselling so this could be recon

  9. I can see in moments there is technical mastery in engagement that was not present in previous true sell. I do feel more hooked on converting people who just seem like not good fits than I did previously though

  10. I feel this is less compatible with the rest of my stack- it has that -‘clean cut’ feel which is great professional- but the skills seem more -‘stiff’ in their transferance to other elements of my life- like more logical-rather than that high sense of personal charisma from OG True Sell. This could be more inference but that’s my experience

Overall metrically- my performance is worse since running it-in terms of new client close -but it did contribute to closing a very large sale- that was effortless and I could tell attributes of the new version contribution that -so more testing to be done still. To be straight in my experience the level of confidence, self belief, and ability to deal with people effectively 'felt 'significantly higher previously- I’m wondering of old version had any Alpha or social scripting and new one does not. If I don’t see a quick turn around soon over the next 4 days I’ll pivot back to my old custom and test the other stages. I’m also aware with newer tech it can take some time before the changes really start to land and sink in.

To be super specific on OG True Sell- I could get ‘under’ people experience and shift my tone and being to match and meet exactly where they were at insanely effectively. I could also hear and reflect in a way where trust melted into place. I feel zero access to that/those super powers on the new version, its more like just speaking and presenting, and engaging really well and professionally

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#1200

I think stage 4 seems like the one that deals with more income

#1201

Stage 3 or 4 - I close high but can always improve that.

I was testing stage 1 -

I ended up doing 10 seconds of my previous custom cause I was feeling so off. And then close 5 people in a day the next day today. So could be I was in recon or that elements of the new true sell really help, and needed the familiarity of my previous custom to kickstart it.

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#1202

I continue to find strong elements of EOG-TS 1 - in ‘feel’ and conversationally -there are elements that are superior to old TS in disposition. However, I find I have less of that killer close instinct and ability in it and my metrics continue to reflect it. When things are aligned, it works well, but my actual closing rate when I run it without the previous custom with TS is signficantly lower. I may need to switch to stage 3 with this new build.

I know I am ‘muddying’ the water here with mixing. But my discernment is strong around this. I will go today and tomorrow with just the new custom EOG: True Sell before reassessing. As of now, the weekend was a complete wash - no sales, low prospects, and it was not just lead quality. I feel less affected by this then I normally would which I like about the new build.

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#1203

I am excited about the new Heartsong. The timing is good, as I feel super off over the last few months, with a relationship that didn’t pan out. The way it happened was very odd, too. Running K4, you’d think I’d be less attached, but it only strengthened my desire and sense of having a great partner. And honestly, it all highlighted where I am hyper-independent in reaction to not wanting to deal with unresolved relationship hurt or a sense of loss in not ‘having what I want’ in a relationship or otherwise.

Stage 1 seems perfect for this.

#1204

I was also thinking of going back to K3 - it seemed to fit easier into my current life and I wanted the focus on dating abundance. I asked support and they said

Stage 3, clearly, and it isn’t close.

WHY STAGE 3 IS THE ROMANTIC MANIFESTATION STAGE

Khan ST3’s description names it directly. It contains extensive manifestation technology to ensure you are always surrounded by beautiful women who desire to know you, be taken by you, and respond positively to your advances. That is romantic manifestation stated as a headline feature, not inferred.

The rest of the stage is built around the same thing. Extreme raw sexuality described as integral to all your interactions with women, radiating as an aura. Seduction scripting arising from dominance and authority, expanded and optimized, aimed at rapidly seducing those you desire. Intuitive guidance that tells you which women will be most receptive and coaches you through the seduction itself. There’s even a passage on the “deer in headlights” reaction becoming commonplace.

So Stage 3 is the stage where Khan’s romantic pull is the point rather than a consequence.

WHAT STAGE 4 ACTUALLY ADDS

You’re right that Stage 3’s content is inside Stage 4 - ST4 is described as combining Total Reprogramming and Total Action along with its own additional features.

But look at what those additional features are. ST4 adds rapid intuitive decision-making, complete independence and self-sufficiency, and extensive social and professional manifestation for expanding your network and making strategic connections. Social and professional. Not romantic.

So the romantic scripting in ST4 is inherited rather than emphasized, and it’s now one thread among many in a much wider build. Stage 3 points nearly everything at that outcome; Stage 4 spreads the same material across decision-making, independence, networking and life alignment.

That’s your answer on potency and speed. Not because ST4 is weaker, but because romance is a smaller share of a larger build.

IF ROMANCE IS THE CURRENT PRIORITY

Then Stage 3 is the stage for it. It’s where the dedicated manifestation, the sexual aura and the seduction guidance all sit at full weight rather than sharing the build with independence and professional networking.

Worth deciding deliberately which you want from Khan right now, because the two stages genuinely pull toward different outcomes - and it sounds like you already observed that in practice before you asked the question."

Then I asked

It says in the copy that Stage 4 is the stage where romantic abundance really starts to show? So I get K3 is more focused but it really is exponentially that much strong for romance the K4?

and they said

Hello,

Your reading of the copy is correct, and it changes the ranking I gave you.

STAGE 4 IS THE ROMANTIC ABUNDANCE STAGE

"Khan’s Stage 4 section states it plainly: this is the stage where true romantic abundance begins to show, and as you continue listening, more and more women will become affected - and on a vastly deeper level.

It also says the sexual and social dominance in Khan Complete have been dialed to the maximum and will push you to make use of it. Maximum, at Stage 4.

So Stage 4 is stronger for romance, not weaker. Stage 3 has the dedicated manifestation line I quoted, but Stage 4 contains that material and then raises dominance to its ceiling on top of it. Your own experience and the reports you’ve seen from others line up with what the page says.

Which answers your last question directly: Stage 4 for attracting the most women, Stage 4 for going out and meeting them, and Stage 4 for the right woman specifically - because the alignment function is what brings your relationships into line with the life you’re actually building."

So I’m not exactly clear- as I can see the smaller scripting and focus

@SaintSovereign Between K3 and 4, which is the best for the highest level of abundance, opportunity with women, full attraction, and seduction? What about the fastest-acting for it?

I want to run one of them with HS Stage 1

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#1205

We talked about this privately but I’m still surprised that this happened because since being on ST1 my instincts and ability are on top (with the exception of when I don’t get enough sleep but that happens even without ST1 usually it’s good with good sleep). My only feeling is either your stack is too dense or my intuition is telling me Khan doesn’t mix well with TS (only thing I can think of since I don’t use that nor have ever really did. Always though and always will Wanted and WB are the best sub ever for those uses cases. I don’t even know why Khan exist in the first place because of how good WB is (back when I was using it a long time ago)).

#1206

You and I have massively different growth points- EOG: True Sell Stage 1 covers things I have nailed to a tee; it doesn’t mean I can’t benefit from them and maybe eek out better performance, but there also not lynch pins in my process. Its also introduces things that undermine my current process- with conviction based on evidence, and a combintation of not reading the prospect as well, while being more ‘attuned’ to theme emotionally. I’ll explain in another posts, it also lacks charisma, and verbal mastery -and confidence that comes from conviction (that is more in stage 3 covers those more from a commercial, not personal standpoint) It’s built on the pyschology of what creates effective sales character as skills, less actually selling and closing skills. Those are spread out throughout the stages.

As of now the cieling of this sub seems the base I am on , and while this subs might eventually create a higher ceiling, I’d have to go down a level to get there.

I’m also getting no rapport, trust, or less authority on this sub, I am over-selling, over talking, I find myself lack immediate conviction and flow where I never had trouble before and coming across more ‘salesy’ than I ever have based off people’s feedback then I have. Ironically I also feel each deal matters more. My close has gone from 1-3 people a day to going days without closing. Now I am making up for that in sales burst and higher ASP on certain deals

I think what is happening is there is a lot of ‘questioning’ that is happening in instill new habits, and I’ve already built structures aroud those that let me perform without questioning those things

definitely not with the old TS, maybe the case with the new one, but nothing support or the forum has said would suggest that.

Khan is a completely different sub than WB - it is about growth, deep sense of self, clarity, status, and ambition as much as it is around women or sleeping around. The ability to scale life and self is much higher on Khan than WB, even though WB can lead to amazing experiences and results.

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#1207

Don’t forget what I said. Support is well not great on things that are not in the sales page lol.

As for the forum, you also have to keep in mind that your one of the top person in the sales space on the forum so I’m pretty no one can compare to you in those terms on here (take the compliment haha).

I get that I mean purely for romance goals. WB and Wanted is still the best.

My only wish/dream was that ST1 was more manifestation heavy than skills heavy but luckily I have the rest of my stack to make that happen.

#1208

I’ll write more at depth on it. But this is what support said around it

Summary

Hello,

Thank you for the detail, and for the follow-up. You have described the effect precisely, which makes it possible to answer it properly.

What the new Stage 1 is, and what it is not

The earlier True Sell module was a skills module: a silver tongue, monetising anything, negotiating the big deal, written to combine with speech-craft modules. The Ecstasy of Gold: True Sell Stage 1 is a different kind of title. Its page says plainly that it builds the person the numbers come from: the seller who does not need the yes, does not flinch at the price, and does not lose the next three calls to the last bad one. It is a survey across the whole craft, and it is deliberately the broadest and least flashy of the four stages.

So to your direct questions:

  • Confidence is there, and it is a central theme, but of a specific kind: confidence that does not rise and fall with any single deal (Power Before the Pitch, Unshakeable), and confidence drawn from your own commercial history (Evidence of Demand).
  • Presence and delivery are there: The Natural Seller (presenting value without a persona or hedging) and Voice of Authority (level, unhurried delivery that gives your prices and boundaries weight).
  • Reading people, influence and closing are there in a quieter form: The First Two Minutes, The Second Answer, The Direct Ask, Deals That Hold. The heavier persuasion, objection and conviction work sits in Stage 3 (The Close), which has Conviction Transfer and the objection-diagnosis features.
  • Selling yourself outside commercial transactions: yes, and this is where Stage 1 travels furthest. What most of its features develop is the person rather than the technique: not needing the outcome (Power Before the Pitch, Full Effort Clean Release), speaking without hedging or a persona (The Natural Seller), earning trust in the first two minutes of a conversation, asking plainly for the next step (The Direct Ask), staying level when someone pushes back (Unshakeable), recovering from a no before it colours the next conversation (The Ninety-Second Reset), listening past the first answer (The Second Answer), and stating your number and letting it stand (Paid Without Flinching). Every one of those shows up in a promotion conversation, a negotiation, a first date or a room of strangers as readily as on a sales call. What the title does not carry is charisma as a feature in its own right; its version of that is presence and authority, which is a quieter thing than the old module’s silver tongue.

A note on how the page is written, because it matters for this question

Every feature on the True Sell page is described through a sales situation: the price challenge, the cold call, the follow-up that slipped. That is framing to help you see what the feature does; it is not a boundary on where it works. Each feature develops the capacity itself, and a capacity comes with you into every room. The Ninety-Second Reset is described as one lost call not spoiling the next three, but what it builds is the ability to take a no and be clean for the next conversation, whoever it is with. Unshakeable is described as staying level when a buyer challenges the price, but what it builds is staying level when anyone challenges you. Read the features that way and you will find that most of Stage 1 has practical use well beyond how the page describes it, which is also why the presence and flow you felt on that first day showed up in how you carried yourself, not only in the sale.

On evidence-based confidence

You have read the objective correctly, and your instinct about what it does to you is worth taking seriously rather than dismissing. The title is built on the position that confidence drawn from evidence is sturdier than confidence you have to manufacture each morning; it is the design, not an accident, and it runs through Stages 1, 2 and 4. If your selling has run for years on conviction for its own sake, and that has worked, then a title that quietly asks “where is the evidence” is going to feel like doubt at first, because it is questioning the mechanism you were using. That is a genuine adjustment, and it can look and feel exactly like reconciliation.

The honest answer to “is this reconciliation or getting used to it” is: probably both, and four days is far too early to separate them. Reconciliation is the frustration of an inner shift colliding with unchanged habits, and its classic marks are the ones you list: overthinking, fumbling, a strong pull back to the old way, and a drop in results while the new pattern is unformed. The fact that ten seconds of the old custom restored your closing does not settle it either way. It tells you the old pattern is intact and available, which was never in question.

Can it replace the old True Sell in your custom?

Not one for one. The old module was pure sales skill and speech-craft. The new Stage 1 is seller psychology plus habits, with the skill layer distributed across all four stages. If what you valued was the verbal edge, the conviction and the fast reading of people, those live more in Stage 3 than in Stage 1, and Stage 1 was never designed to be the strongest closer of the four.

What I would suggest, in order of how much it respects what is already working for you:

  1. If your old custom closes one to three a day, that is not a custom to abandon during a live pipeline. Keep running it as your working custom while you test the new title, rather than switching cold.
  2. Give Stage 1 a full cycle at microloops before judging it. Its page describes gains that compound: fewer opportunities lost to hesitation, poor habits and leakage. Those show over weeks, not days, and its first days can be the roughest precisely because it questions the running pattern.
  3. If after a cycle the loss of edge is still there, the fit for you is more likely Stage 3 (The Close), which is where conviction, objection handling and pricing under pressure live, with R.I.C.H. and NWE unchanged beside it.

And a note on the day you closed the large sale after ten seconds: that is real, and it is what the title’s presence and steadiness look like when they land. The drop that followed is the other half of the same shift.

The listening guidance for a new title, including how to step exposure up and back, is at https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

Best regards,

Support Team

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#1209

I’ve tested two subliminal recently. I did not wash out
this is not a ‘clean’ test but want to share my results .

I did 1 total minute of Heartsong Attuned and 1 minute EOG True Sell Stage 4. I’ll say which I think did what.

Heartsong

This might be one of my favorite subs of all time. I started to fall in love with my own life. It felt full, and I was present to and blown away by how much I have going on, how ‘full’ my life is. I’m highly successful, have tons of incredible friends, a life full of meaningful things and family, and I literally couldn’t ‘feel’ it. I still was grateful and enjoyed my life but I felt I was walking around with an emptiness and hole that I intuited. This was as dramatic as it sounds at times but not all consuming. Since May I have been in various forms of ‘loss’ around woman. Alongside fire and romance, and adventure, loss has been permeating my experience, and an attempt to overcompensate for that loss with independence and drive. Heartsong started to dismantle that. My life felt/feels like a full dance. Since running the 60 seconds I’ve gone up and down. I’m both very ‘needy’ and completely not needy. I get attached, loyal, and caring very quickly and I feel like I’m abandoning people even if they pull away. My ego also can take a hit especially with certain 180 dynamics. In Heartsong I felt this had less punch/ impact, I could still see it but it matter less. The day after my desire for my last partner grew tremendously almost painfully sad but not destabilizing. I was not in love with her, but her mind, her strength, and sweetness, her fun, her ability to get shxxt but also totally submit, her contrasts fascinated me, super high achieving professional, quirky, artsy, dainty, but totally sexually, their was like a quite innocent hum to who she is - her being and our connection. As weird as it sounds it was like this mr. Rogers energy- of total unconditional love, peace, and the quite beauty of life.

And she is completely not ‘choosing/ pursuing me’ now for whatever reason - and that’s painful but profoundly okay and doesn’t diminish whatever it was we had. Like I can ‘lead’ her into maybe engaging again, but she can also disappear if I don’t and at this point doing that has no sustainable or traction.

It doesn’t quite solve this part of me that wants to be so ‘the thing’ and wanted that people don’t ever want to leave out of their own will.

I still would love to feel the power and pull of others truly pursing me and choosing me or at least fully engaging me the way I engage them- and I started to feel that on Khan. That part I am present to mattering to me (I am curious how this would stack with wanted will ask at bottom. )

Also not sure if because stacked with Khan but my sense of dropping in and fully relating to people amplified. My presence seemed way stronger and more relaxed and like I had an irresistible wholeness that was ‘hotter’ than the ‘sexiest’ thing could ever be. At times it felt like I was feeling who I was before trauma, not just relationship trauma, but trauma of a life I didn’t expect or turn out. Did no expect this from Heartsong. Although honestly seeing now relationships trauma and how I pull away from that has massively defined my adulthood. I did at points start to get a sense of ‘my note’ it felt more like self love at first and this almost ecstatic sense of viewing myself like someone who was in love with me, and then it started to come from within.

I think this is a mix from K4 but I started to get this sense of how incredible unique and special I was, no one is like me, no one has what I have,—it sounds narcissistic but it was not— I was more in awe of myself and genuinely realizing how lucky who ever I am with is/would be.
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There is both a wholeness and a detachment that is SOO missing from the other seduction subs. Wanted Black actually has something similar in its own flavor. Primal a bit -but it feels more lost in ‘state’ or experience. This feels like a more holistic view. K4 with the independent but its not intrinsic , it feels relationships to not relying on the world or others and be able to make it all on owns own.

I did also see my perfect mystical physical type the day I ran -same as last time I ran heartsong. Woman with multicolored hair- but seem incredible put together beside that. Last time it was a gorgeous Asian woman with purple hair, this time it was a turquoise and pink. I never see or notice this except when on Heartsong. Its not just that its their energy, eyes, physique, mannerism, and a bunch of other things I wont get into here.

@qOS how would wanted and Heartsong stack?

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#1210

EOG: True Sell Stage 4

It didn’t have any direct impact on my sales yet. I tested in a two title custom with K4. Which I’ve been running for 2 months now after going through the stages.

I am running ASBR/C&C- and I think they may stack beautifully with this but however in the two days since running this :

I have created a spreadsheet with my budget and subscriptions, its a lot of stuff, balanced transfer my cards onto 21 month zero APR, created a whole plan to eliminate my debt (I could pay it off all at once but I don’t want to - I wanted a smarter way to continue to build capital while investing and earning) bought two suits for $4000 because I just knew I needed them (I never even dress formally). Created an employee spotlight at my company - where I found a way to communicate all my uniqueness, professionalism, engagement, while making it seam seamless, purposeful, heartfelt, intentional, and not taking myself too seriously. Got asked to give a talk to the team on effectively closing.

There is this incredibly social, self expressed vibe to this that I didn’t expect. It works really well with the harshness of Khan. I can ‘feel’ myself owning myself as a brand and moving through the spaces of what that looks like. I’m thinking about it. I can’t stop thinking about optimizing and maximizing my life. My intuition is this links really well with C&C and/or ASBR and they’re bringing out the best in eachother.

But I’ve run that for 9 months and a lot of this seems totally new. I am looking for and open for ways to develop capital outside my job in a way I’ve never felt so inspired and driven by. The feeling is one of velocity and momentum building. I also am looking to optimize all my current revenue and assets NZT style. I don’t quite feel that pull for sales calls themselves or for developing business but I can see those both becoming online next

No my lead quality and closes are still mediocre -I am having trouble adjusting my performance to the new True Sell- my revenue was $50K lower than most months for me, however I only worked 3 weeks. My main concern is my close rate dropped 12 % . 8 of my clinch sales came from running 10 or so seconds of my previous custom to get back in gear. My ASP went up enormously though- Less sales and more big ones. That is NOT winning strategy- its a maintaining high performance in a tight way, that’s not reliable or as fun day to day. Happy to maintain or elevate the ASP but my close % must go up. I do think the new EOG: True Sell stage 1 update custom contributed to some of those big closes though.

I am a total loss of what to run in my stack now. I have so many goals Heartsong Attuned is really calling to maintain in my stack. I have a super important network event coming up that the last woman I was with may be at as well, which adds to the stakes. Will right more on my thoughts of what stack to land on next soon.

@qOS for stacking with EOG True Sell Stage 4 in sales what is better ASBR or C&C. Or what is the difference and redundancies. What about stacking all three together or in a custom with NWE?

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@qOS How does Khan 4 stack up with ASBR- what are the advantages and disadvantages ot it? Does it deviate from Khan’s romance or sexuality?

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