Wrong forum section bro, move it to the âJournals sectionâ, if you donât know how then tag @RVconsultant to relocate it 
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@RVconsultant please help me move this thread to the journal section and please explain to me so that i wonât make the same mistake next time.
Thanks, in anticipation
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Itâs changed. When you start a thread, there is a menu under the box where you type the title of the thread. The menu allows you to designate what category.
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Okaaay 
Thanks Bro
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Week One
Quote
Even though Iâm still trying to find my way out of this maze, so far Iâve been amazed.
- Coal
Day 1
Loops: 30s
Result:
Once I was done with the loop, I took a walk, and I was very intentional about it. The intention wasnât to pick up girls but to make new friends who would help me pick up girlsâlol, this strategy never fails.
So, I had a few drinks and made a few friends, but one stood out in particular. He is friends with a lot of cute girls in that area, and that immediately made him more important than a gold coin as far as Iâm concerned.
I thrive on social proof, so I surround myself with people that can give me that.
While I was on my way back, I saw SKG (lol, itâs an inside joke, the girl I talked about in Season 3: Fire Versus Saint). She acted like she was seeing me for the first time in her life, and I acted like no one was in front of me.
Day 2
Loops: None (Rest Day)
Result:
The Gold Coin was at my place (the guy I met at the bar). He was playing music at my place with a Bluetooth MP3 device. I wasnât even paying attention to what he was saying because recon was creeping in gradually. Then I noticed SKG was in my compound.
She lives a few compounds from mine and has a friend that lives in my compound. I and that friend donât talk either, but she and the girl also donât always get along well, so I was surprised because she rarely comes to my compound except to see me when we were still a thing.
She made sure she was sitting somewhere she could get a clear view of me. Then she started raising her voice and laughing hard at her and her friendsâ boring jokes. But I still wasnât giving a fuck. The guy also noticed and tried to call my attention to it, but I just acted like it was nothing.
When she noticed it wasnât working, she started talking to the Gold Coin. She wanted to use him to make me jealous, and he fell for it. Iâm usually very calm in situations like this, but on this day, I wasnât.
I realized I was also raising my voice, trying not to feel left out, but no one cared. She was telling him a lot of beautiful nonsense, and he was enjoying it.
I got really mad at him but still maintained a calm composure and said, âI think itâs time I go write some books. Weâll see later.â Then he said he would check back tomorrow.
Later that evening, I was outside my compound on a call when I noticed someone walking toward meâit was SKG. She sat very close to me (bodies touching) and said with a smile, âCan I make use of your headset?â I gave it to her, got up, and continued with my call. All the while, she just kept looking at me with so much lust and admiration.
Day 3 & 4
Nothing really, except SKG has been asking me for very random and irrelevant favors, trying to use them to start a conversation.
And the fact that I tried watching porn on Day 4 when I was bored but wasnât finding it interesting at all.
Day 5
Loops: 30s
Result:
Now Iâm desperate to get results after all the advice and love I received from the forum. I figured out WB is not a sub anyone should give up on.
So, I went shopping:
- I got new body sprays and roll-ons.
- Also got a new body lotion (all from the same brandâI didnât even know there was a promo going on).
- I got a skipping rope (as thereâs a limit to the kind of exercises I can do after my eye surgery).
- I got a few relevant supplements too.
Now Iâm ready for whatever WB throws at me.
Day 6
Loops: None (Rest Day)
Result:
Getting out of bed on this day was a bit of a struggle because I was very tired after having a few dreams that I couldnât make anything out of. But I felt a little better after exercising and taking the supplements (nothing too serious, just vitamin C and some other basic multivitamins).
I called The Gold Coin and reminded him about a hangout event he said we were both going to attend on this day (thatâs me being desperate to see results, lol).
We were at the hangout all through the day, and I can tell you there was a whole lot of 9s and 10s at this event.
Guess what!? I wasnât noticed by any of the girls, except one guy who recognized me and kept showering me with praises. This guy knew me from way back when I was quite successful in my field until I had an accident that messed things up. That was the last he saw of me until this day. Knowing that he is even more successful now than I was then even made my day worse than it was already.
The girls started paying me more attention, but I knew it was because of the guyâs reaction, so at that point, I just wanted to go home.
On a lighter note, I think WB took a sleeping pill on this day lol.
When I eventually got home, I saw SKG in front of my compound. She gave me a hug and told me thereâs something she has to tell me. I knew she just wanted me inside her, so I told her with a smile, âLetâs make it tomorrow because Iâm so tired now.â I had to be less cocky that night because I was really tired and because she would not stop.
I fell on my bed but couldnât sleep. It was like I had a conflict with myself. It was so crazy that I had to convince myself I was on the right path, even though I wasnât sure. I also came to the conclusion that if SKG doesnât bring up the topic she is trying to avoid, I will keep being cocky AF. Then I fell asleep.
Day 7
Loops: 30s
Result:
What a day. After finishing my daily routine, I felt so good. I really canât explain this feeling, but I know I felt so good about myselfâa complete opposite of how I felt yesterday.
I was outside my compound having a conversation with a random guy on my street, talking about yesterdayâs UEFA Champions League games, how my team (Arsenal) trashed Sporting CP and how Man City gave away a 3-goal lead. Then I noticed there was a girl around where we were having the conversation. She was so cute, and she was paying attention to our discussion. By the way, this is the first time I noticed this girl.
A few minutes later, SKG came out, sat near me, and was expecting me to make the first move. She was doing it in the most annoying way, with a lot of pride. In my head, I was like, is this not the same girl I saw yesterday night?
Then her friend joined her. They know Iâm near-sighted, so whenever they want to get my attention, they raise their voices so I will look in their direction. But this time, it was so different. Her friend, who also doubles as my neighbor, was standing beside me and was twerking. She was so close to me that if I stretched my arm, it would touch her ass.
Normally, when things like this happen, I usually just look away. But this time, I focused on her ass so much that I wanted to do something naughty, but I respect boundaries, so I said, âCan you do that on a dick though?â She giggled and ran off without looking at me. SKG just got up and left. Even though she tried to hide her anger and jealousy, it was pretty obvious to me and her friend.
Her friend ran after her while I was still trying to figure out what the fuck just happened in amazement. Letâs give her friend a name, Iâll call her MN because something tells me she will appear a lot more in this journal, lol.
A few minutes later, I saw MN walking quickly into the compound with guilt written all over her face. MN is 21, SKG is 19, these girls are proud AF. Iâve been living in the same compound with MN for over a year, and weâve never had a 2-minute conversation before, so what has changed nowâlol?
Iâm also noticing that recon is reducing, so is anxiety and fatigue. Now something is telling me to increase a loop to 3 minutes, and thatâs exactly what I will do on Day 9.
Iâll write about the next weekâs results soon, so stay tuned. 
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Week Two
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This distorted and indecisive person might look like me but he his not me
Coal
Day 8
Loops: None (Rest Day)
Result:
I worked on a new book interior all through the day. Late at night, it was too late to go out.
But I had a dream, and it went like this: I moved into a new apartment, a very small one at that. My friend and I were tidying up the place when suddenly an army of very cute girls, led by a man, barged in on us and started searching the whole place. One of the girls found gold earrings in the couch and gave them to the guy. I explained to him that I found the couch there when I moved in, and he said, âOkay,â and they all left.
Then I told my friend we should go outside to get something to eat. When we stepped out, the girls were still waiting for me. This time, it felt like their number had multiplied by ten, and they looked like they wanted to attack me. So I ran back inside and locked the door. Then I woke up.
Day 9
Loops: 3 min
Result:
I started my cardio exercises, and one of my neighbors joined me. When we were done, he suggested we take a walk, so we did.
We stopped at a supermarket to buy some things. It was a girl and her mom attending to us. While I was buying my stuff, my neighbor started hitting on the girlâhe just went straight in and asked for her number. She said no, and I noticed her mom wasnât too comfortable either.
I immediately called the girlâs attention to something near the entrance, and we stepped aside. I said a few things to her that made her laugh and then asked for her number. She gave it to me. After we paid, her mom suddenly became all friendly to me, not knowing what had happened.
When we got outside, I gave my neighbor her number and told him he was too direct, which is why she acted that way. He was shocked I didnât keep the girl for myself, but Iâm not a fan of plus-sized girls.
On our way back, he pointed out a girl who passed us and said, âDo you know her?â I said, âNope.â Then he replied, âShe was looking at you like she wanted to swallow you, and the guy she was with was staring at you angrily. Thatâs why I initially didnât call your attention to it.â She was still looking back, and I just smiled.
Later that day, I saw MN. She waved at me, and I just stretched my hand out for a handshake. She got up from where she was sitting and came to shake my hand. I felt in control. I didnât let go of her hand and started a conversation until it got very late.
When she was about to go inside, I told her to give me a goodnight kiss. She smiled and started looking around because we were outside. So, I held her hand and took her to a more secluded spot. She started kissing me passionately, and things got wild. She clearly wanted me to go all the way, but just as I was putting on a condom, she suddenly said, âI have to go,â and left.
I was pissed off and confused, so I angrily went inside.
Day 10
Loops: None (Rest Day)
Result:
MN has been avoiding me, and I really want us to talk about last night and why she left abruptly. I hate being in situations like this.
I also havenât seen SKG for a few days now. As for the other cute girl I mentioned earlier (the one I noticed during the sports talk), she said hi to me today. But after a closer look, sheâs probably 16 or 17, which immediately disqualifies her and puts her off my radar.
Day 11
Loops: 3 min
Result:
I had a very weird dream overnight, but I wonât go into details.
The Gold Coin came around and introduced me to a girl who wouldnât stop talkingâa solid 6 at best. I wasnât into her, so I wonât bore you with how it ended.
I saw SKG and MN today, but they both ignored me, and that messed up my day. Later, I saw SKG with a guy. They both looked in my direction, and Iâm sure she was telling him something about me. She looked glad I saw them, so I just acted like I didnât give a fuck until they were out of sight.
Day 12
Loops: None (Rest Day)
Result:
I had a dream that the Gold Coin got me a job. We went to the place, and I met the CEO, who started talking to me in a seductive manner. Long story short, I gave her some good spanking in front of everyone, and she loved it. 
Now to my messed-up day. SKG was at MNâs apartment early in the morning. They were having a conversation, but I only heard SKGâs voice. She kept calling the guy I saw her with last night her âex.â I figured she didnât intend for me to see them and felt guilty. MN was mostly silent, only speaking occasionally.
I was confused as fuck, regretting my actions. That make-out session with MN was a mistake. Things are awkward now, and she avoids looking in my direction.
At night, while thinking about what to do next, I realized MN is trying to manipulate me into giving up the power I have over her and SKG. She doesnât like that Iâve been in control of the situation.
Well, her plan is dead on arrival. WB revealed her game to me, so itâll be rewarded for a job well done tomorrow. Then, sleep stole the show. 
Day 13
Loops: 5 min
Result:
Five minutes of listening time is WBâs reward for a job well done.
I felt charged up today and ready for anything. After finishing my daily routine (no book writing today), I saw MN sitting alone. She focused on her phone as soon as she noticed I was walking in her direction.
I sat beside her and said, âLetâs see who can ignore the other most.â She smiled and asked, âWho said I was ignoring you?â So, I replied, âGuilty! I never said you were, but you just confirmed it.â She laughed, and I added, âYour laughter is turning me on.â
âReally?â she asked, still laughing. So, I kissed her on the neck, and she held my face, kissing me back. I took her to my place, and while I was undressing her, she suddenly started laughing again.
I asked why she was laughing, and she said, âDo you always walk around with condoms like theyâre a lifesaver?â Her laughter was contagious and sexy, so I started laughing too. I gave her a flimsy excuse to shift the topic to something more intimate.
She admitted she only says certain things to people sheâs in love with because she tends to get attached after sex. So, I asked her if she loved me, and she immediately said yes. Then she added, âI canât believe I just admitted that.â
We kept talking, partly because I enjoyed the conversation and partly because I wasnât sure if I wanted a clingy 9 in my life.
Later that night, SKG tried to talk about why I might be mad at her. She claimed she didnât know what she did wrong, so I told her, âDonât play dumb. I wonât tell you until you bring it up yourself. Think about it and let me know.â
Day 14
Loops: None (Rest Day)
Result:
SKG came over, and we resolved everything. Even though she didnât admit what she did, she apologized and promised it wouldnât happen again.
She did it in a way that felt less FWB and more GF. SKG spent the whole day at my place, but nothing happened because MN was the ultimate cockblocker, lol.
While we were out for a walk, SKG was protective of me, even toward MN and other girls.
Observations:
- Iâm no longer as desperate as I was initially.
- Whenever Iâm conflicted, I find a solution, feel good about myself, and then something amazing happens.
- No recon yet, but also no manifestation.
Now Iâm up to 7 minutes for a loop. Letâs see how it goes!
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Week Three + Wash Out
Quote When you finally decide to confront me, youâll always find me in front waiting.
â Coal
Day 15
Loops: 7 min, 30 sec
Result: I noticed my endurance level during exercises is now crazy. MN was there with me all through my workout session. I bet she was really enjoying herself.
I also saw the girl that I thought was 16 or 17. I said hi again, chatted with her for a few minutes, and asked how old she is. Turns out sheâs 19, attends the same tertiary institution as SKG, MN, and the guy I was talking sports with the other day, who I also think is her boyfriend. The tertiary institution isnât really far from where we stay, but I still rarely see girls in my area. Weird, right?
SKG just quickly stopped by to say hi because she was still writing exams, unlike MN and the other girl, who are done with theirs.
I and MN already had an agreement that we were gonna smash once SKG leaves for school, but to my surprise, she didnât show up, and something tells me she did that on purpose.
Day 16
Loops: None (Rest Day)
Result: SKG and MNâs friends were at the house since they are done with exams. The guys among them were lousy AF, and they were playing basketball outside my compound. I didnât want to go outside because I didnât want to relate with any one of them, but since I realized they wouldnât be leaving anytime soon, I decided to come out as I always do.
To my greatest surprise, SKG acted like we were strangersâmaybe because her ex was also there. Only MN said hi. The guys just suddenly became so aggressive with each other that I started contemplating if I should leave or not. One of the guys even started telling the one with the ball to throw it in my direction, but he refused, and that was when I got pissed. Even though I hate confrontations, Iâm not a coward, so I said with a very loud and angry voice, âIf you guys canât be reasonable, then I will have to stop you guys from playing here.â They all stopped, looking at me in amazement. Some apologized, while the rest said nothing. I believe MN and SKG were impressed, and the guy that was very annoying began to pay me a whole lot of respect.
Later that day, MN and SKG started talking to me properly after their friends left, and I was giving both of them the cold shoulder.
Day 17
Loops: 7 min, 30 sec
Result: I was doing my daily workout when MN came to sit and watch me. So I asked her why she kept me waiting the other day. She gave me an excuse and apologized, so I told her that when else she knows she canât come over, she should tell me and not wait for me to ask why. She said okay and that she would make it up to me today.
Same same, I was disappointed again, only to be confronted by another drunk guy later that night. He was really mad for no good reason. I was just so calm, with the assurance that nothing would go wrong. He then became silent for a while, apologized, and told me goodnight. Weird, huh?
Day 18
Loops: None (Rest Day)
Result: Today I had a dream that someone called me to come see something in a room, so I went. When I got there, I saw the shape of two people under the sheet. So I took off the sheet, and the both of them were still kissing, not knowing the sheet was off. I was so sad, even though I didnât know who they were. Then I woke up.
I started my daily workout. MN sat there and didnât say anything. I was not happy with her, but these days I become unnecessarily horny. So I just pulled her closer and started kissing her and went straight to her pussy, playing with it using my fingers. She didnât careâshe was just glad I forgave herâbut we were interrupted yet again by that neighbor that joins my workout session once in a while. I think he saw us from his window because his window directly faces where I workout, even though itâs my backyard. MN didnât give a fuck; she just left the both of us there.
Later in the afternoon, she came over to my place and told me she wanted to go see SKG and that I should come with her. I said no, but she insisted, so I agreed.
Guess what? It was a dream come true but not in a good way. We walked in on SKG on her exâs lap, kissing. They didnât know I saw them because Iâm short-sighted, remember? I thought MN did that on purpose, but from her reaction, she didnât know anything like that was going on.
SKG came over later at night. She thought I didnât see anything, so thereâs nothing to apologize for, and I was playing along until she said, âYou and MN are becoming too close these days, and itâs making me uncomfortable.â So I replied, âReally?â I wonât go into details of what I said and how I said it, but itâs officially over.
Day 19
Loops: 7 min, 30 sec
Result: Daily workout with my neighbor. Something tells me he is itching to say something, but we kept working out until the Gold Coin came around. Then we went out to pick up girls. While we were on our way, my neighborâIâll just call him Râasked, âAre you and MN dating?â So I said, âWhy did you ask?â And he said (laughing), âBecause I saw you guys yesterday.â So I said angrily, âThen why did you interrupt?â Then he replied, âBecause she has a boyfriend, and they are still very much together.â So I said, âWow, I didnât know,â and he said, âYeah, I know.â
Well, our pickup session didnât go well because every single girl I approached ignored me for a reason Iâm yet to understand. The only reason I could point out was that I was sounding so unreal to myself.
So later in the evening, when I got home, I called MN and told her everything R told me, and she confirmed it was true and also started saying a whole lot of nonsense to defend herself. That was when I told her to fuck off.
Day 20
Loops: None (Rest Day)
Result: Nothing much, just that MN and SKG are acting toxic AF to me and R, but they are very friendly to the Gold Coin.
My mom stopped by and couldnât stop talking about how good I look and how straight my posture has become (I started looking down a lot whenever Iâm walking or bending a lot to see my monitor when typing because of my poor eyesight, and this messed up my posture). I know something changed about the way I was walking, but I thought it was just me being overly confident. I didnât know my posture had been corrected until she pointed it out.
Day 21
Loops: 7 min, 30 sec
Result: MN and SKGâs toxicity went from 0 to a hundred today. They were at the place I usually workout, and there were about five of them shouting, misbehaving, and doing all sorts. Knowing fully well that I and R would be disturbed, but R wasnât home, so it was just me.
It got to the point where I couldnât take it anymore. So I came out and told all of them to leave and that I donât want to see any of them here again. Her friends apologized, even SKG apologized, but MN left without saying a word.
Later at night, MN came angrily and told me never to try what I did earlier. I started laughing because it sounded like a joke to me. Then she replied angrily, âItâs not funny at all. How will you be telling me and my friends where to be and where not to be in a compound we both share?â Now I know itâs not a joke. I replied, âI wasnât referring to you; I was referring to your friendsâ (I noticed SKG and some of her friends were loitering around), and I still maintain that. Then she replied, âBut you shouldnât have talked to us like a bunch of teenagers.â Then I immediately cut her off and said, âYou wonât tell me what not to do.â So she said, âI know you are angry at me for not telling youâŚâ I cut her off again and said, âI know you are being toxic because you want my attention, but I donât attend to toxic people. Grow up first, then come back.â She immediately started crying. This made everyone around, including SKG, suspect that we are a thing.
Wash Out Days 1-5
Result: MN is literally not speaking to anyone. I can count how many times Iâve heard her speak. Itâs clear she wants me to come and apologize, and honestly, I feel guilty, but Iâm not doing itâat least not yet.
Not much else to report because Iâve been indoors working on a new book.
Observations:
- I get angry and irritated so easily these days.
- I feel really tired early in the morning, but that fades after my workout.
- My skin looks super fresh, and I feel stronger.
- No sex, no manifestations, and even my approaches feel weird.
- I donât think thereâs a sexual aura in WB. The vibe there is so magnetic that the girls donât want to leave your sight, but they still find every excuse not to have sex.
Stay tuned for Week 5, where Iâll start running WB at full loop: 15 minutes.
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This sounds very much like recon. Shorter loops and working your way up might help the whole situation. Adding SSX might help too, like itâll add to your charm and charisma and manifest healthier scenarios.
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yeah, i thought as much but i started from 30s and the recon was worse
getting SSX or PN after 2 months of WB is exactly what i will do
but i think i would prefer PN since am a very passive seducer
thanks bro, even if am not getting sex yet the physical shifting is more than enough
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Hmm⌠this means I have been manifesting, but it has been toxic and confrontational situations 
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Ah, honestly I think you shouldâve stayed there until the recon subsided. Then once it does, you increase by 30 seconds. Thatâs the general rule anyway.
For sure, I think it would be worth trying both (one cycle WB + PN, then one with WB + SSX) to see which works better, unless WB + PN gets the job done 
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It could also just be your reality (and the people in it) reacting to your new vibe/aura. Not necessarily bad. Or it could be things clearing out to make space for new better things.
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WB Might be the harder and the best title for seduction.
It didnât do much for me as well when trying it just few a week or 2.
I think you need to give it few cycles to start handling it better.
You could add PN for now or whatever.
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Good idea. Iâll just stack both with WB and drop one when Paragon gets updated
but now that am on a full loop do you suggest i go back to 30s or just wait and see how it goes first?
Ohhh I never tried SSX I wounder what it does tell me more as you go.
About WB I didnât try it more than a week or two So Iâm not sure how good it is from a personal experince.
But I can say for sure Primal and Wanted worked super fast for me.
I now use PS (itâs like a Primal Black because itâs denser or more challenging.)
And I see less however I built a custom around PS now and I know in few cycles it will get eaiser
Itâs all about consistncey
Even @Plutus had a lot of problems at first using WB
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yeah bro thanks, i plan on running it till 2026 iâll just keep adding and removing from the stack.
i hope i keep this promise 
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I will follow
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In the stack of WB + SSX + PN Iâd go back to 30 seconds.
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I think he can handle 1-3 minutes of WB
But he needs to feel it himself
Still, Iâd personally do all at 30 seconds, and if no recon occurs, then move it up to 1 minute etc. He said he got more recon from 30 seconds of WB, which is actually a sign the sub is working. I used to try to do as long loops as possible like everyone else, but once I finally gave into microloops, life became much easier. I wasnât constantly feeling like a psycho due to intense recon. I will say though, longer loops might produce better results (like youâll get more girl attention/crushes, or more noticeable outer results), but trust me, when you feel insane from recon it doesnât even matter lol.