Main Disc. Thread - Objectives / Product Copy Updates / ZP Refresh

Renaissance Man on deck.

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Renaissance Man ready to go.

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Thank you sir :hugs:

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Aegis Initiative: Survival Instinct ready to go.

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Diamond w/o Male Enhancement on deck.

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Thank you for marvelous upgrades, Saint!)

The positive difference between Original ZP and ZP Refresh feels to me much more than even the difference between Q and Qv2.

Most ZP Refresh titles feel like NEW titles at all. For example, Rebirth is something out if this world: just one loop and I feel like a different person who can be whatever he wants. This effect I have each time I run it.

Same is true for Limit Destroyer, Primal Seduction and etc.

Script rebalancing and anti-recon upgrade is what doctor prescribed).

Great work, guys.

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Just wanted to say that the objectives are not on the Alchemist product pages except the core one.

Can’t see it in downloads and the zip has one file.

He never said it was done :rofl:

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Yup. Wait for SaintSovereign’s “ready to go” or similar post

ROFL, I forgot to actually do it. Doing it now, rofl.

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Ready to go.

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@SaintSovereign, please, kindly add to the objective list of Stark those objectives related to Romance and Empire Building Skills. Thank you.

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@SaintSovereign why has the listening schedule changed since ZP, how come we can no longer listen 5 times a week, taking the weekend off?

That listening schedule would now basically be the Hard Gainer Pattern.

Summary

This pattern is for those who are legitimate “hard gainers,” meaning they can run a subliminal for an ordinate amount of time and experience nothing. This pattern is also for those running only ZP-powered subliminals. There’s no mixing and matching here. Third, this pattern is for legitimate hard gainers who are listening to multiple titles.

First, when we say a hard gainer experiences nothing, we mean absolutely nothing. If you experience fatigue after listening to a ZP title, you’re not a hard gainer, that’s a result indicating that your subconscious is indeed processing the script.

If you experience mild euphoria or productivity, slight attraction from others, or some other very mild result, but in your eyes those results “could’ve happened without the subliminal,” you’re not a hard gainer.

This is beyond the scope of this article, but those who do get small results but identify as a hard gainer are essentially rewiring their minds to disregard all results as coincidence, which will eventually evolve into them becoming a hard gainer.

For those who have already reached that level: You will run one loop per day of a single title, every day. If your stack consists of three titles, you alternate each day. For example, if I’m running Limitless ZP, Chosen ZP and Wanted ZP, the pattern goes as follows:

  • Day 1: Limitless ZP x1
  • Day 2: Chosen ZP x1
  • Day 3: Wanted ZP x1
  • Day 4: Limitless ZP x1
  • Day 5: Chosen ZP x 1

… and so forth. Since hard gainers have developed mental faculties to reject any and all subliminal programming (at least using the delivery method we use), listening to the same title over and over can result in the subconscious ignoring it even more.

By rotating the titles, you expose the subconscious to different scripting in an attempt to get a reaction. The moment you get a reaction, whether it’s a good result — regardless of whether it’s grandiose or small, fatigue, headache, sleepiness, etc., IMMEDIATELY recognize it as a result and switch back to the appropriate non-experimental listening pattern. Do NOT pull the “it could’ve happened without the sub” logic trap. If you continue to do this, you will only block off any mental pathways for results even more.

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This sounds like muscle memory. Interesting read thank you, something to experiment with :+1:

Name-embedded mains anytime soon? :wink:

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@Houdini @anon78457040 Alright guys I’ve been testing 15 mins a while. I don’t need 3 rest days because my overload problem was fixed by lowering the audio volume. I can do 2 titles every other day @ 15min.

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How about the results now?

Since I started subs I see mental effects, external results less so. With recent testing that is still true.