William’s Winning Wayfare

[Viktor]

DRR1 15m LE 30s

I have been using subs that have productivity scripting in them for more than a year.
Mogul, RM:UWX, RM:V, HeO.
There is cognitive enhancement scripting in most of them too.

The foundation has been laid out, so I will use +30s every listening day.

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Edit 1:
Nah, there’s no use in rushing. I’ll use +15s instead.

Edit 2:
Actually, I can afford to experiment for the next few weeks. I might as well try LE for +30s and DRR2 before I get really busy again.

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Update 1:

I feel nothing different.
No recon at all.

This is exciting. That means it’s similar productivity & creativity to RM:UWX but with less focus on writing. Just a broad enhancement towards my productivity & creativity like usual.

This is what i want.

30s is this promising.
I can’t wait to see what will happen if i listen to more.
I’ll jump straight to 7m.

I shouldn’t be too reserved. There are reasons to increase exposure.

• I have built up the base for productivity & creativity scripting for more than a year.
• It’s an older & lighter sub.
• It’s totally aligned with my life.
• There is no recon at all.
• And my schedule is free enough to take the risk for the next few weeks.

If this works like how i think it would, DRR1 + LE would be the most invisible stack i’ll ever use.
It’s a broad yet focused stack. I like it.

[Viktor]

The only thing i don’t really like about LE is how it has Beyond Limitless.
BL is for short term goals. The description says it itself.

I’m here for the long run. I’m sure LE would be great if i use it for long, but I want a sub that will give me the best bang for the bucks.

That’s why i decided to stay with my plan and make the custom i planned with Limitless, UA and modules for productivity, creativity & meditation.
I’ll make it in 3-4 months.
The goals are similar. productivity, creativity, & meditation, but customized to my needs & for long term growth.

So LE now will act like a stage 1 to the custom.

[Viktor]

The 11 on 4 off schedule is working well so far.

This is superior than anything above 13 - 15 listening days.
Even with 4 rest days instead of 5.

No overload symptoms at all.
I don’t feel that distinctive load around day 15-18, and definitely no debilitating weight & lethargy around day 19 - 23 (this is not an exaggeration, that is 1 common side effect I consistently felt around that time period regardless of what sub i used).

This schedule is perfect.
Listening time always starts at the 1st & 16th of the month. Washouts always at the 12th & 27th.
With february as the only exception. Use 9 on 4/5 off on the 16th of february (Or take a 13/14 days of washouts this time every year).
When there’s 31 days in the month, use 11 on 5 off on the 16th.

No more awkwardly trying to fit 26 days into the schedule.

6 total listening days in 11 days.
An even number makes stacking 3 subs less awkward.
In the normal 21 on 5 off, the third sub always get 1 less loop than the first & second.

I have also tested 9 on 4 off for months. It worked well. So 11 is definitely not “too short” by any means.

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After testing various schedules for more than a year, i found out that:

• Mon Wed Fri with rest on the weekends is not enough. 2 days of rest, even if there are 2-3 weekends in a cycle, is not enough to mitigate the overload symptoms near the end of the cycle. (Tagging @Fire & @SaintSovereign to take this one into consideration since you guys mentioned the weekend strategy for the new pdf)
• 3 rest days in the middle of a cycle is the bare minimum. It’s not optimal nor sustainable in the long run, but it actually does something than just 2.
• With only 11 days, 4 is optimal.
• 5 is great.

With the 11 on 4 off schedule, there’s no need to vaguely tell people to “take extra rest days in the middle of the cycle”. It’s built-in in the schedule using the most consistently optimal 4 days of rest.

[Jouissance]

@Viktor

The only thing i don’t really like about LE is how it has Beyond Limitless.
BL is for short term goals. The description says it itself.

I can totally see how you got there, especially because Limitless and QL are both updated while BL hasn’t been (neither the product nor the copy).

ZP made all titles more “fast acting.” But back in the day, Beyond Limitless was an “ultima” product, and Ultima was the counterpart to Qv2, which was meant to be listened to the same day you wanted to get results.

When the copy is referring to BL being good for “Short Term Goals” that’s still very much referring to the technology (ultima) as much as or more than the script (beyond limitless).

But with that being said, of course if you want the title that gives you extreme long-term results and doesn’t worry about how fast you get there, QL is the way to go. It’s SUPER enhancement on the physical, hormonal, neural, emotional levels, anything that might have anything to do with your brain, so you can improve cognition. I think ST2 especially focuses on creativity out of the four stages.

BL just kinda directly targets creativity and productivity without the other stuff.

You’re gonna love LE, whether you keep it as a sub for a long time or you use it as stage 1.

Personally, I wouldn’t sleep on how effective of a results enhancer LE can be, because the scripting isn’t just about cognition, it’s also about performance, meaning it helps you perform at your best every day.

And that means less recon and more action

[Viktor]

@Jouissance

When the copy is referring to BL being good for “Short Term Goals” that’s still very much referring to the technology (ultima) as much as or more than the script (beyond limitless).

That could be the case. I’m guessing out of the lack of information that the scripting is still targetted towards short term enhancements. I wonder what they will spin BL & LE as when they update them.

We have microloops now for short term goals anyway. So I kinda don’t see the point of them if it’s solely for cognitive enhancement.

@Jouissance

But with that being said, of course if you want the title that gives you extreme long-term results and doesn’t worry about how fast you get there, QL is the way to go.

I would love to use QL instead of Limitless, but I plan to run the custom alongside DRR1.
2 multistagers in a stack sounds a bit risky.
Maybe I’ll add it as the 4th stage after i’m done with DRR.
(stage 1: LE, 2: Limitless + UA, 3: RoM + UA, 4: QL + UA)

@Jouissance

You’re gonna love LE, whether you keep it as a sub for a long time or you use it as stage 1.

Yep, I’m sure of it. Every single productivity & creativity sub i’ve ever used from SC, when combined with either DRLD or DRR1, always work really well.

LE is just a more distilled & focused version of them. no extra stuff.
Just productivity, cognitive enhancement & meditation boost. All that i need to pair with DRR1.

@Jouissance

Personally, I wouldn’t sleep on how effective of a results enhancer LE can be, because the scripting isn’t just about cognition, it’s also about performance, meaning it helps you perform at your best every day.

And that means less recon and more action

This is what i’m after with LE. simple & straightforward for what truly matters to me.
I wish they upgrade LE to be more compatible with long term goals too. I might ditch my plan to make a custom altogether if they do that in less than a few months from now, rofl.

[Viktor]

A bit of a late testimony, but i decided that it’s fine to post this.

I actually used mogul for 1 loop earlier this month. I needed to get more stuff for efficiency and i wanted to fund it faster. Those were a bit expensive so i originally planned to use mogul for 1-2 months.

Then i listened to mogul once, somehow i got super lucky the next day and managed to gather all the funds needed in only a few days.

I still can’t wrap my head around how absurd the manifestation worked.

The wealth manifestation is no joke, rofl.
1 loop was enough as long as there are pathways for manifestations.

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I might delete this later, i always hold back on writing anything about mogul’s results. But this is just too good to not share.

[Parsifal]

@Viktor

Then i listened to mogul once, somehow i got super lucky the next day and managed to gather all the funds needed in only a few days.

I still can’t wrap my head around how absurd the manifestation worked.

The wealth manifestation is no joke, rofl.
1 loop was enough as long as there are pathways for manifestations.

I don’t say I envy you.
But I still kinda do
You’re getting all these crazy results. Even crazy financial results from UWX, now with one run of GM again.
Little me running financial subs for over a year now, and I only got triple of what I invested in subs…

But I was at a completely different starting point. There’s a lot of internal stuff to clear through before money can flow freely.

Or maybe this is a believe I need to clear first…

[Viktor]

@Parsifal

You’re getting all these crazy results. Even crazy financial results from UWX, now with one run of GM again.

There must be a bit of wealth scripting too from the other subs in my stack. But the sheer absurdity of the manifestation couldn’t be from anything else other than Mogul.

And just like how Mogul always does, the manifestation didn’t come completely randomly. It was absurd, but it was from pathways that were already laid out in my life. I just did my best to seize them.

This is always the case with Mogul, the more you open channels for wealth to flow into your life, the more effective it is.

@Parsifal

But I was at a completely different starting point. There’s a lot of internal stuff to clear through before money can flow freely.

Yeah, admittedly, I came to Mogul without many internal blockages about wealth towards my goals to begin with. So it’s understandable that I have it easier with wealth scripting.
The internal stuff will clear out over time with enough experience & sub usage. Don’t worry about it.

I find DRR to be the best sub for cleansing blockages.
Big and small, even the ones you’re not aware of.
You should try it when a slot opens up in your stack.

Maybe Mogul worked exceptionally fast this time because there were blockages that got melted down by DRR1 behind the scenes. It kinda makes sense since this is the first time I’ve ever had significant gains this quickly.

[Viktor]

The thing that I started because of the inspiration from running RM:V is finally in full operation.
I can’t believe saying “fuck it, imma do it” actually worked.

How long ago did I start working on it? 3 - 4 months ago?
I never would have expected everything to be this quick.
Thanks Mogul, rofl.

I’m so excited for what’s to come.
Idk if this will end up well or not, only time can tell. Whatever happens, at least I can say “yes, I did it”, lol.

[Viktor]

@Viktor

@Ravenscout

So in other words I could keep NWE and still add new Limitless? My custom would be very dense if I did that, but I plan on running Limitless either way regardless. Wouldn’t it end up being smoother if I added it in the custom instead of adding it as a second title in my stack?

I can’t say anything for sure since I haven’t tried it myself.
Honestly, i want to try 3 cores + 1 NSE too just to see what would happen. The opinions here in the forum are still mixed up & unclear about the combination.

At this point, it’s better to submit a ticket to the support for a more accurate answer.

Fuck it, i’m gonna test it myself.

I want a more straightforward custom and i know i only need a simple one for my goals, but i’m also curious as heck about whether it’s too much or not.

I’m gonna add NR back into into the custom i planned for 3 months from now. I’ll use it for at least 2 months. If it ends up being too dense, i’ll just remake it with only ME + Limitless. It will only cost $100 + 2 months anyway. That’s barely nothing.

[Parsifal]

This are the answers I got on Limitless VS LE

@Niles

Personally, I’d still roll with Limitless Exeuctive and replace Limitless. Limitless while it has it’s benefits, main objectives are cognitive enhancement, learning, and overall learning.

Limitless Executive is more geared towards productivity and the cognitive aspects seem to effect more executive functioning, clear thinking, clear speaking etc.

@Jouissance

completely remove limitless and replace with LE.

Keep LE and Executive loop times LOW - they can cause some serious recon.

Make sure you have NR in your stack as per journals of myself, azriel, and niles, all of which show the incredible boost caused by a pure wealth title in the stack.

Both of them experimented a lot on productivity. So I trust their assessment.

[Viktor]

@Parsifal

Both of them experimented a lot on productivity. So I trust their assessment.

I see, I didn’t mess up then, rofl.

[Jouissance]

@Parsifal just to be fully transparent, you got that advice from Niles and I because you were asking entering into the sales industry.

But it’s not an overall assertion that LE is a generally better sub.

@Viktor I didn’t say anything because I know you’re a beast at processing subs, but I gasp at the thought of a 15 min loop.

LE was the sub thatenabled me to really feel the difference between normal and microloopw.

If I listened to a 3 ,in loop the night beforehand I didn’t get any productivity gains. It was usually a slight dip in productivity.

But 1 min the night before or 30s the day of and my productivity and joy working and results skyrocketed.

I saved 3-7 min loops for the weekend or Friday night when I could process it

[Jouissance]

Seems like a good thing for you - just saying not to underestimat recon potential

[Viktor]

@Jouissance

I didn’t say anything because I know you’re a beast at processing subs, but I gasp at the thought of a 15 min loop.

I played LE for 30s, 15m, 15m. 3 listening days total so far.
So I’ve tried both microloop & full loop.

Back then I didn’t feel anything, no recon nor anything different.
But I’m just starting to feel the recon after 4-5 days of the last exposure to LE.

I wonder if it’s from DRR1 or LE.
DRR1 is the only sub that gives me recon in the washout period, but the recon now feels different that I have a suspicion that it’s from LE.

My productivity doesn’t suffer at the slightest though, as long as it’s not a lethargy recon, I don’t mind it.

I’ll try to use lower loops too like you said.
1m, 3m, 5m, 7m. I’ll look at the difference with how I react to them later.

@Jouissance

Seems like a good thing for you - just saying not to underestimat recon potential

Hopefully it won’t be that bad. I’ll take it slowly for now, just in case.

[Jouissance]

It could have been an initial stonewalling followed by a processing of the input.

For LE microloops seem to work best after some time of normal exposure. I didn’t try microloops my first loop. I tried them after having been listening for 3-7 minutes for a while.

[Viktor]

@Jouissance

It could have been an initial stonewalling followed by a processing of the input.

It could be.
I have never stonewalled before so I don’t really know how that feels like.
My productivity doesn’t dip much though, so my hypothesis is the power is just not stronger from RM:UWX & Mogul, at least for now. It could be either stonewalling or the strength is still building up.

@Jouissance

For LE microloops seem to work best after some time of normal exposure. I didn’t try microloops my first loop. I tried them after having been listening for 3-7 minutes for a while.

Hmm… I’ll try with longer loops first then.
My fear is just lethargy. Anything other than that is fine.
I just hope the “anything” doesn’t turn into lethargy, rofl.

[Viktor]

@Viktor

Update 3

Yes, a really sweet food was what i needed. Finally after days of anxiety, unease, restlessness etc, they’re just gone. I feel normal again.

Maybe it was recon all along and not overworking.

I know i said that i will reduce my workload, but i’ll go back to the schedule i made after i started HeO to see if it’s really because of overworking or do i just need some sweet dirty food.

I don’t know whether the push to eat sweet things came from 15m of HeO or 15m of DRLD. Either way, it’s good.

Update 4:

This is a few hours after i wrote update 3.

Eating a sweet food was what i needed. I still feel calmer and better than before.

Is it because i do sword training on top of my workouts, work etc now?
Is it because of the subs?

I don’t know, but i will start eating sweet stuff from now on.

Wait a minute.

This is the same time of the year i had the “recon” a year ago. It was in the middle of october too.

The condition was similar.
I did everything cleanly. I ate clean, worked out, slept well etc.
And the fix was the same: Dirty sweet food.

Maybe this isn’t even from subs or my eating schedule. Maybe it’s just something cyclical my body goes through every year.

I wouldn’t have found this if i didn’t journal.

[summit]

This is a really interesting find. I spent the last couple days on a tiramisu binge, feeling some minor symptoms as well.

Interesting to think about it possibly being related to a larger cycle than one’s personal cycles.

[Viktor]

I spotted a limiting belief about my health

“I’m too busy to take care of my health”
“I have done the best I could to my health, I can’t do more than this”

No, these are just excuses.
Yes, I live cleanly compared to other people. I eat well, I sleep well, I workout & have enough physical activities etc. These things are important for my performance.
If I don’t eat well, I can’t have the energy & clarity to do my work.
If I don’t sleep properly, I’ll impair my thinking capability.
If I don’t work out, I’ll feel worse and I’ll lose my focus more easily.
I don’t smoke, drink alcohol, do drugs etc for the same reason. Performance.

I thought I had done enough, but this is just a limiting belief that I put onto myself.
I’ve done well, but these are just the bare minimum for my performance.
This is a part of productivity I can still explore & improve with the biggest potential for great outcomes.

Paragon is the obvious sub to add, but I have been jumping around too many subs lately.
So I’ll stick with LE + DRR first, then add Mogul if necessary.
Wealth makes health easier to improve after all.