QV2 already humbled me.
Even one loop a day seems to be too much for me.
As soon as I add rest days, results flow in like crazy.
Can only imagine how powerful Q+ will be!
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That goes without saying. My current goal is to get the subs to work for me with minimum amount of loops.
I just need to figure out how I get there. Need to get through the thick skull somehow 
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5 days on (go hard if you have to, but dont overdo it) 2-3 days rest (3 if you’re wise)
without those 2-3 days rest the hard days wont be internalized and fully cemented, you’re cramming and cramming and dont get to set them inside stone.
should be a mandate that you take a week off subs every 6 weeks, it does absolute wonders.
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Can you elaborate on this? I think this is happening to me even though I’m doing stupid things and adding more loops 
(only one more).
Your journal which I read from top to bottom spoke about you doing one loop per day but I’d love to know more.
Nope, if you don’t get enough sleep you’re more likely to get hit by recon.
This makes more sense 
It’s good to find your “sweet spot” that I thought was a myth since the Dragon was an easy ride and I could run as much loops as I wanted. Now I can tell where mine is and it doesn’t differ from the sweet spot I found on Khan (Qv1) one year ago that is four loops per night. Anything above it puts me in recon and on KhanQ it put me into stonewalling.
Rest days are most definitely crucial. Idc what anyone says. I’ve been to recon hell.
People that don’t get reconciliation whilst actually getting results, may be, because:
- They already have had a strong spiritual or Alpha base, prior to subliminals. (Likely)
- They’re used to the subliminal.
- They’re in the acute changes phase, where things are all dandy dandy. The script has yet to address their more deeper issues, which is why they’re not “hit” yet. (Most likely)
- Their minds can simply take more loops, compared to others. Which I highly doubt. 5 loops of Qv2 daily is an insane amount.
I also agree with this however. Issues in real life, actually, make your reconciliation hell. Its like being enchanted with a “take more damage” spell in a game.
Reconciliation might not have been as bad if you were already rich and comfortable.
Currently, it has been roughly 50 hours since I last listened to a subliminal. And I’m still noting new insights about myself.
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I’m noticing that I’m pretty similar to Alex. One loop seems to be a lot for me now, so I need more rest. I was just ignoring the fact that I’m possibly getting recon as I’m tired all the time and a bunch of other things too.
Yeah, we should take it easy and gauge what works best for us without comparing ourselves with other people.
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I agree 100%. But easier said than done ;).
I’m now on my third day of high loops AL St1. Basically the only time I’m not listening to it is in car, if I have to run errands or am in conference room at work.
During the first day I felt a really strong pressure on my head. And really sleepy. It forced me to take a nap. After the nap the pressure went down.
Yesterday I wasn’t feeling much anymore. I sleep with the sub on. Today I don’t feel anything either. Crazy dreams only. Sleeping really well.
Anywhere from 14+ to 20 hours /day. Yesterday was a bit broken day in that regard… Still at least 14 hours. Most likely more. I just run it on set and forget.
Tomorrow morning I will start my break days. Most likely 4-7 days.
Edit: Disclaimer… Do not do what I am doing… Follow the SubClub guidelines.
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On QV2 I actually think I shouldn’t run even one loop a day for 5 days, but rather every other day.
Especially because I run tough shit like Khan early stages and EoG ST1 which challenge a lot of beliefs.
Plus, also Mind’s Eye, RICH Ultima, RebirthQ etc.
Lots of stuff that needs to be processed.
Recently I felt like slow and steady definitely works better than brute-forcing stuff. Even faster.
I am thinking of adding more rest days in my general stack. I will report how it does.
But I totally agree with @Sub.Zero everyone needs to find his sweet spot. Takes a bit of time and introspection.
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If you have specific questions, please ask. We are here to help, and we want to help.
I’m not convinced you have a thick skull when it comes to subliminals. My guess is that you had a pleasant childhood, and therefore your conscious and subconscious are allies rather than adversarial.
I think these are good ideas. Thank you for posting.
Basically, I can tolerate much more when running healing subs like DR or AL1 but Emperor is my “opposite” if I compare it with who I “was” in the past so it’s kind a rough or maybe it’s still Rebirth that doesn’t allow me to run more loops. I’m having weird dreams as well and it got more intense when I switched to the Qv2 version of AL (currently stage 2).
I don’t think you’re stonewalling either since I know how it looks like. One feels zoned out when stonewalling and I experienced that on Stark Terminus only when running 3 loops a day. My mind was very calm and as if in another dimension.
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I don’t think so either… It’s pretty brittle, will break if I hit it with a hammer ;). The wall didn’t break it though.
I just think that I’m too stubborn for my own good. I know I am. I think it was necessary for keeping my own mindset, not succumbing to the social pressure. But that also leads to not accepting outside influence easily even if I know it would be good for me.
I have always been highly individualistic. I read a lot, played computer games. Highly introverted. Back when all that was the bad kind of nerdy.
But then again, I did martial arts. Played american football. Even if my physical traits were not optimal. Still got into junior national team.
No entrepeuners there. Except for my parents who were just self employed. Everyone I knew was from working background.
So, had to be stubborn to keep my own head.
Other than that, the childhood was pleasant. No big trauma.
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Mine was fucked up and I ran a lot of loops on the Dragon and it was great. In my case, I ran the other company subs that had made a lot of healing. But still, only some of my limits have been dissolved that why Emperor is on the playlist and, of course, Rebirth to reframe the past. Time for LD will come…
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I did my 3 days of continuous AL1 last week.
The last morning just when I stopped the sub I heard an instrumental piano version of John Legend - All of me. No idea why, as it is not a song on any of my play lists nor do I like it that much either. The weirdest thing is that I do not remember ever listening to an instrumental version of it. And it was playing still when I woke up. Also, it is the first time I remember ever hearing music in my dreams.
I was feeling pretty out of funk for the rest of the week and on weekend I got hit with serious recon. Now that’s awesome, since it’s the first time I’ve ever felt recon 
I count it as a win. A win where I got kicked in the nuts pretty bad, but still a win.
I was feeling a bit low still on Monday, so I decided to play Emperor Q v2 overnight and I felt great in the morning. The dreams that night were awesome (can’t remember anymore) and I woke up smiling. Never had that strong of a reaction to a sub before.
So of course I had to test what happens if I listen continuously to Emperor. Just finished that run, now I’m waiting to see what happens
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First time I’ve read about someone celebrating his recon 
Good job 
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I never thought I would tell someone that I’m happy they feel like they were metaphorically kicked in the nuts.
Now I’m definitely happy about this! Right on, man!
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