what time in the day do you guys listen to the ZP products?
does it even matter?
I remember posts by Saint where he said listen before sleep if ZP makes you tired but assuming you are not someone with that problem then when is it best to listen?
Have any of you tracked and noticed any meaningful difference on your results depending on when during the day you listen?
I prefer listening at night, even as an energizer, someone who gets energy from subs. I think the integration is way better, and I usually benefit from the effects of the sub tge next day.
For wealth/productivity subs I’ve learned NOT to listen to them right when i need them, because I usually become less productive after listening to them… I need 3 hours or a full night’s sleep before the integration stops and the benefits begin for productivity.
My ideal world: I’ll play any sub right when i start my night routine, listening to at least part of it while meditating. All of it, if it’s one zp loop instead of two. Then I’ll journal and read for an hour or two, boosted by the energy of the sub if it gave me any that specific day, and then go to bed. When I wake up, I won’t have any recon but I will have a subtle power leftover from the loop.
this is very interesting.
im currently only using these type of products.
because im so used to the ultimas my worry with using ZP before sleep has been that by the time i wake up the effect will be gone.
what exact do you mean by this?
can you please give more details?
are you saying that while you sleep you lose most of the effect but still have a subtle amount when you wake up?
At night is what I would suggest. They might leave you drained and weary for day function, where your mind is processing and executing while you’re doing your thing. However, some titles are good for whenever needed, think Libertine and Diamond
I currently use them at night, but might consider trying it in the morning to see if I see any difference.
I imagine that it’s a great way to start the day with the right thought patterns and mindset.
I only did one stack so far in my second cycle chosen for business and leadership and wanted to learn how to embrace the fun side of life, and the loops make me sleepy so I prefer listening at night
I begin yawning like a beast for hours
There’s a certain pro to them during the day even with the risk of them making you ultra tired because of the zone
Is it ok to listen to them during the day while doing other things? Like eating, working on the computer, watching TV, or even while in conversation with someone?
I’m asking regarding the effectiveness of the sub.
Is there increased effectiveness while listening while sleeping, or quiet relaxed moments?
Yes.
It is fine to listen to them while doing other things. Just abide by the old ‘operating heavy machinery’ rule to be safe.
Subliminals are genuinely meant to be exactly that: ‘below the threshold’.
You can be talking to someone, listening to music, watching television. Guess what? You can even be sleeping. Though now that the programs are only 15 minutes long and only require 1 loop or less, you would probably be done listening before you even fell asleep.
I usually play my subs first thing in the morning while still in bed, then I’m done with it for 48 hours.
The only times I play subs right before sleeping at night is when I’m playing subs that usually drives me into recon. I’d rather be sleeping while the sub is processing than go through recon while trying to get stuff done during day time. Sometimes, recon can be very disruptive to your daily routine.
One fun thing I used to do was ‘train my brain’ by playing the sub while I was doing a related activity.
So, for example, I created a health and fitness custom, and I would only play it while I was outside walking or exercising.
This wasn’t because I thought it would make the sub work more effectively. It was more like just building a virtuous cycle or a positive feedback loop between processing and execution. Just like a little operant conditioning exercise.
They’re going to work whatever you do, man. You don’t even need to worry about it. The most important thing is to make sure that you’re playing sub related to actions that you will definitely take. And the more motivated and willing you are to take actions related to it, the more effectively and powerfully the subliminal will integrate and be executed. That is the key factor.
Nothing wrong with experimenting with various tweaks and techniques along the way. But it’s really just for fun. Action is the real ‘super-drive’.