Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)

in case this helps

turn recon into lessons

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This as well.

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I’d have no time in my day if I had to clear my lower quality entries :laughing:

So much is just processing to alchemize. I personally think there is value of our own records and patterns of what didn’t work or just venting (for ourselves and others) but respect and understand your choice to have high quality only.

That’s incredible, can I ask how old you are? Also if your open to sharing what you’ve set out to achieve and accomplished?

I’ve noticed this from Khan Total Breakdown. It enhances everything else, with a certain ‘flavor’. I NEVER thought of DDR until you’re journal. I’m thinking it may be worth experimenting with in the future to enhance everything.

Is the recon hit hard initially before enhancing I imagine

Have you tried DDG ? I feel like that shares the virtue scripting of Hero or has some resonance there

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It only takes a few minutes a day.

When i’m free, i search for them, put them in a group tab, then i delete them whenever I have the time & the daily time limit is over.

That way, the time wasted is only my free time.

Edit:
I just looked at the group tab again, there are at least a hundred messages there ready to be deleted, rofl.

I’d love to share, but I also take “don’t share personal information on the internet” quite seriously.
That’s why you’ll barely see any journal about Mogul here, even when I rave so much about it.

Maybe a cleansing sub is a good general booster, then.
DRR1 is different from DRLD in that it’s broader in its application.
That’s why I call it a holistic booster. I wonder if it’s similar to khan.

I was very cautious the first 2 weeks I started DRR1.
Only +3s every listening day starting from 0s.
But one day I tried 15m just for fun. I realized that DRR1 gave me no recon whatsoever.
It feels like nothing, but when I assess how I was before & after DRR1, it’s clear how potent it is.

I want to use DRG1 next year.
But DRR1 is already perfect, so I’ll ride the wave first before switching.
I’m just that satisfied with DRR1. It’s one of the best subs I’ve ever used.


I think I’m starting to connect the dots here about how the anti-recon scripting works.
I’ll definitely try it with a recon inducing sub whenever I see a viable way to include a sub with that scripting in my stack.

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Jumping straight to DRR2 might be stupid, so I’ll test drive it for 30s tomorrow.
If even that is too much, the mission will be aborted, and I’ll go straight to DRR3 instead.


LE 15m DRR2 30s

No recon.
Now I know it’s not severe, I’ll try 1m next week.


Update 1:

I just realized it now, the usual shift in perspective towards inner power that DRR2 usually brings is back.

30s is enough.

I’m tempted to keep DRR2 longer in the stack.
But DRR4 also has a part of DRR2’s scripting in it, so either way, i’m getting enough of what i want from DRR2.

This confirms that there’s no ridiculous recon from a microloop of DRR2.
So i’m sure i can safely go through DRR2 next month as long as I’m being reasonable.

It might be a good idea to stick with DRR4 until i’m satisfied with the healing, then go back to DRR1 for its pure holistic booster capability after.

I can use it situationally too.
DRR1 when i’m super busy.
DRR4 when i have the free time.

Let’s see whether this plan survives or not after i try DRR4 2 months from now.

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Depending on how good the anti-recon scripting is in LE/HeO/HERO,
I might properly advance through DRR’s stages instead of just using them briefly as I originally planned.

I’m content with DRR1’s effects, but I’m curious about testing the new scripting.
I can’t do that without recon. So the best option is to advance the stages.
I’m also intrigued by DRR2’s effects after I used it this morning.

I’m going to bet that the new LE + DRR2,3,4 will be enough to replace DRR1 in the meantime.
If they are not, or if the scripting is not strong enough, I’ll go back to DRR1.


I’ll also microloop the hell out of these stages.
+10s every listening day starting from 0.
While I’m excited for the new anti-recon scripting, I won’t abuse it either.

This might be more serious than i expected.
After observing this for a while, I think DRR1 cleansed something deeper than just sexual expression related blockages.

I didn’t expect this.

It has been happening since before i used DRR2 this morning, but i wasn’t quite sure yet.
After that little push from DRR2, now I understand what’s happening.
DRR1 hit something that’s way deeper than i expected.
Something that i thought i had gone over after years of struggle, but in fact, a good portion of it was just blocked by my head. DRR1 cleared that blockage. I just became aware of it now.

It’s not just nice to have DRR2’s inner power scripting to accompany this cleansing, it is necessary. I’ve gone through this before, i know what I need. I jumped ship at the right time (maybe my subconscious already knew this, that’s why i started thinking about advancing the stages earlier).

DRR1 cleared not just the trash, but also a whole dam in that “second burst of effects”.
This is not about recon anymore, if i don’t want to risk losing my productivity, i might gonna need professional guidance for this.

I hope this won’t be as bad as how it was back then. I’m significantly more in control & better geared than how i was back then, so i’m sure i’ll get through this one way or another.

I might need to say fuck it and drop HeO & my plan to use the new HERO title in favor of LBFH, depending on how this goes.

LE to keep my productivity up.
Aggressive microloops of LBFH & DRR2 to deal with this potential shit show.


Update 1:

Fuck it’s back.
But my response is different from how it was years ago.
I’m also starting to notice which parts of my body tense up when it happens.

This is fine.
If it continues to go like this, maybe I won’t need to take such big precautions after all.

The risks outweigh the potential gains from HeO/HERO, or from any subs.
LE + aggressive microlooping of DRR2/LBFH until I’m sure this won’t spiral too far like it did back then.

This caught me off guard when it finally came to my consciousness. But when I look at what I’ve been doing this far, I realized that I actually have been planning & mitigating this shitstorm subconsciously.
Workload, schedule, safety nets etc. It’s as if I already knew that I’ll have to face this unblocked shitstorm a few months in advance.

Looking at how things are going right now, I may be able to go through this just fine, but there’s no harm in taking extra precautions and getting professional help.

I’ll observe more for a week. Then I’ll decide whether I’ll schedule a meeting or not.

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LE 15m LBFH 15m DRR2 10s

Productivity fucked, lol.
Well, it’s a special circumstance, so that’s to be expected.

I decided to just go full loop with LBFH.
The “recon” from a full loop is just a tiny bit of lethargy anyway.

My biggest problem with it is I become more social on it.
Which is not a downside, but that requires me to put more effort to refocus on my goals.
My sweetspot for using LBFH is no LBFH anymore, since it has changed me enough over the past 2 years.

But with the current situation, fuck yeah, bring me all that social life.
Fixing this situation is more dire than being more productive.
I want all the help i can get my hands on. Because if it spiraled like it did years ago, i’m fucked. Unlikely, but i’m not taking any chances.


Some bodily reactions I observed:

  • Abnormal breathing. As if i’m overbreathing but needing to breathe at the same time.
  • Tenseness in unique places. Similar to how it was many years ago.
  • 10-12 hours sleep.

I workout less than usual & have less workload lately. So it’s not from overtraining/overwork.
I also have healthy eating habits, good social relations, no alcohol drugs cigs etc.

I don’t understand what’s happening in my mind and body.
Everything is out of the usual.

Well, I’ll just suck it up and hope things will stabilize soon.

That creativity boost was 100% from HeO.

Turns out 2.5 months was not enough to make it stick.
This further enhances my theory that 4-6 months is the minimum.
It also shows that the BL in LE was not what increased my creativity to the degree that HeO did.

Fuck, I want to go back to HeO, but I can’t yet.

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I liked someone’s suggestion to you to try DRG.

Literally all of DRR but also with royalty/virtue/cognitive scripting.

Saint called it something like DRR mixed with chosen, limitless, and hero

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Paragon is not a bad idea at all.
I saw it as a one off emergency sub, but it can also keep me healthy in the long run.
The healthier I am, the longer and the better I can give towards my goals.

Looking at history, so many great people have died from health problems.
But it’s not talked about enough, as health problems are not as exciting/glorious as “getting poisoned by the enemies” or “died in a battle”. In some cases, it might even be seen as a weak / unsatisfying end to a grand figure.

Health is so important yet so neglected, even culturally unacceptable, at the same time.

I know my body is healthier than most. I’ve been doing my best to keep it that way.
But what if I add Paragon on top of it? It’s as foundational as emotional healing, productivity and creativity that I’ve been pursuing in this period of using subs. I can’t do all of that if my body can’t.

With what’s happening to my body now, even though it’s not a full on health problem and just a side effect of emotional healing, it makes it much more obvious that I should seriously consider Paragon. A small imbalance can knock my tight schedule this bad, let alone a whole fucking illness.

Illness is just as bad as recon in how badly it can affect me.
I rarely thought about it because I rarely get ill in the first place. It’s time to take it more seriously.

My stack rotation is full with HeO, DRR/G, LE, & HERO though.
I think this is the right reason to make a custom so I can add Paragon into my stack.
I’ll make it a Paragon + LE custom once both are already updated.


LE + Paragon + NWE.
Productivity & health towards more wealth.

Wealth is the only thing missing from my stack, though it’s lower in the priority list. If I don’t want to keep trying to find a way to slip in Mogul into the stack, it’ll be better if i just add a wealth element to the stack.

Paragon can also balance LE (and every single sub in my stack since they’re all productivity boosters) in case i get too far with it, as i often do.

I can’t build it until next year though.
This year is full with advancing the stages for both DRR & HERO.
Adding a completely new sub on top of that is just asking for trouble.

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not to F your stack but i was just reviewing Mind’s Eye and it directly enhances creativity/innovation, routines, visualization (ofc), manifestation, and ability to accomplish seemingly impossible-to-imagine goals.

You might want to give it a re-read if u havent in a while!

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I was planning to use ME too.

But HeO turned out to be enough for now.
Well, it took the sub almost a year to show this to me, potentially unlocked by DRR, but i always welcome a pleasant surprise, lol.

I’ll use the new HERO title too, which i believe will have a creativity enhancer effect (even if it’s indirect) like HeO. LE will also get the update. Changing it from BL to Limitless.

Maybe i’ll add ME to a custom one day.
But i can’t see it entering my stack any time soon.

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When reading the forum, sometimes it got me thinking.
If we made a gathering in real life, I must be about the least charismatic out of everybody, rofl.
The most I’ve used is WB for 4 cycles total. Other than that, zero sub that focuses of attractiveness.


Update 1:

I was looking around for what sub to use for attractiveness in case I ever want to use one.
It’s easily EmpD. Not even a question.

I can afford to add it in a custom around 1-2 years from now.
It will be in the third sub slot that only gets played 2-4 times a month, though.

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I did LE 15m LBFH 15m DRR2 15s yesterday.

It has been 3 listening days in a row, No overload at all.
Though I can’t really feel DRR2’s effects as clearly as when i ran it for 30s. No recon either.

I didn’t expect this.
I thought i’d at least see an overload right around now.

This can’t be right, i must be missing something.
LE & LBFH are not weakening either.

What if i stay with this amount of exposure to DRR2 for a bit longer.

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I feel like i hold more power over my sexuality.
“My way is the way” kind of inner power behind it.

DRR2 is doing its job. This flavor of inner power is unique to the sub.
I take back what i said about not feeling much from just 15s.

DRR1 feels complete as a booster alone, but DRR2 makes it even more complete.


I got a pleasant surprise from LBFH.
I forgot it can make me become more vulnerable & honest towards myself.
I like it.


So many inner introspection from DRR2.
It’s uniquely themed around inner power, so I know it’s DRR2’s doing.

15s is this strong?
No fucking wonder I got recon from running this sub longer.
Maybe it’s because of the combination of how responsive I am to subs & my low tolerance for density.

Or maybe because I started thinking about DRR2’s effects when I wrote the post above, and my brain went “we’re actually going through a lot with DRR2 you dummy, here let me show you”. In which case, that’s one more reason to keep journaling.

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LE 15m LBFH 15m DRR2 50s

I’m starting to think that adding a microlooped third sub is a viable strategy.
I won’t ever recommend it though, just a personal observation.

LE is still strong.
LBFH is blossoming.
DRR2 is working better & smoother than I expected.

I feel no overload symptoms either.
At least no lethargy or that distinct “dense” feeling.

What the fuck?


I’m in control of my thoughts about the thoughts of sex.
That’s a mouthful, but that’s exactly what’s happening.

It’s starting to show me my thought patterns about sexuality.
I wasn’t even aware about these patterns before.
But now, not only they are deconstructed and laid bare in front of me, but DRR2 also gives me the tools & guidance to navigate & shift my perspectives around this topic.

This is liberating and eye opening.


LE feels more robust in some areas of productivity, but shallow in others where HeO & DRR1 shines. Creativity is one big aspect of HeO that is completely lacking from LE.

It’s hard to justify LE over those two, but it will improve with the update later anyway.

The executive part works well though.
Not much to complain about.


Using LBFH for a long time made me forget how utterly fucking broken this sub is. It is that strong.

This is the ultimate feel good sub for me.

The problem is just that, it has too far exceeded my internal goals that I don’t know what am i going to use LBFH’s improvements for.
The more I use LBFH, the more i understand that i’m truly done with the sub.

It’s great for emergencies like what happened a week ago. But anything more than that is unnecessary. I’d rather give the spot to Mogul if it’s just for feeling good.

I’ll swap LBFH for HeO 2 months from now.


Update 1:

Ok that’s a recon from DRR2.
But it only shows up in certain situations.

There’s no lethargy recon, nor is it disruptive.
I’ll go back to 20s in the next listening day.

So my no recon sweetspot is around 20s-50s.
My bearable recon sweetspot is 50s+.
Time to find out the exact numbers & improve.

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I’ve been feeling a shift in my mindset.

Have I been taking life too seriously?
I don’t have a problem with that, it’s the most fulfilling point of view I’ve ever lived under, and I owe a lot of the joy in my life to it.

But what if there’s a chance of significant improvement if I embrace the opposite?
Not just being playful, but to view the world in a childlike wonder.

Idk how to explain it, but it seems like what DRR2 is inching me towards.

Btw, there’s a very subtle recon from DRR2.
I can notice it only because DRR2’s recon is so unique.
Coming back to 20s was the right choice.


Update 1:

I just remembered that DRR2 has this kind of “pure, childlike life enjoyment” effect based on my first run of it months ago.

Was this why I had such recon from the sub?
What’s inside me that found this problematic?

I have a feeling that figuring this out will net me a great benefit.
Just like when I figured out LBFH and parts of WB.


Now that I’m aware of what’s going on, I realized how much DRR2’s blissful life enjoyment effect has been affecting me lately. I do see life in a deeper sense of joy.

I like it.

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OH I UNDERSTAND IT NOW.

What DRR2 is leading me towards is the pure intrinsic enjoyment of the process itself.
Opening that layer of enjoyment I didn’t even know existed.
This is a strong hypothesis. I’ll find ways to put in action what DRR2 is inching me towards.

Was this why I got recon from AHJ?
Well, it could have been DRR2’s recon now that I think about it.
But the thought of using AHJ to dive deeper into this topic is not a bad idea at all.

Is it worth destabilizing my stack even more to add AHJ into the stack?

I don’t think so. Adding LBFH is already risky as is.
I’m glad LE with microlooped DRR2 can manage to keep up my productivity.
DRR2 with recon is devastating for productivity, but without recon, it’s actually helping me a bit.


I know that there’s something to this.
It also aligns with my goals.

AHJ is the undisputed best sub for what DRR2 is trying to show me.

It’s not a virtue driven fulfilment like the one from HeO, it’s a raw enjoyment of the process, of life.

This is more than a valid reason to add AHJ to my stack.
My goals are still the same: productivity, creativity & fulfilment.

AHJ has the chance to show me that “next level” of fulfilment, as HeO had back then.

Better fulfilment will lead to better productivity & an indirect effect towards creativity.

This is a strong reason to swap.
I could be wrong, but this is the biggest lead I have to break through to the next level.
I might as well take the gamble. If this leads to a revelation as great as the one from HeO’s virtue scripting, then any momentary instability in the stack is a worthwhile price to pay for it.


I think I can swap DRR in place of AHJ for a few months.
The whole reason I use DRR1 is to boost everything in my life, especially productivity from HeO.
Now that LE is back in the stack, especially with the update later, LE + HeO should be more than enough to cover DRR’s spot.

I’ve been using DRR for ~10 months anyway, alternating between DRR1 & DRR2.
I’ll count this detour as a well needed break from the core DRR scripting.

LE + HeO + AHJ. Productivity, creativity, fulfilment.
I planned to include the new HERO title in the rotation. But I’m not in a rush to use it. Adding a completely new multistager into this might unnecessarily dilute the focus. I’ll try to delay the new HERO title until next year if my willpower is strong enough to resist using it, rofl.

Fuck it, I’m taking the plunge.

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Not gonna do this, but i wonder

If (assuming the sweetspot of B is already 15m)
A 15m B 7m30s
C 15m B 7m30s
is viable
Then what about
A 7m30s B 7m30s C 7m30s
A 7m30s B 7m30s C 7m30s
?

Load wise, it’s the same thing but spread out.
The only potential problem i see here is having 3 subs in the same day.

I could to test this, but my stack is already destabilized as is.
I can’t take more risk at least for now.


Now that I think about it, it doesn’t have to be split equally, does it?

What about, let’s say,
A 7m30s B 12m C 3m
A 7m30s B 3m C 12m
Or even
A 7m30s B 14m30s C 30s
A 7m30s B 30s C 14m30s
I tested microloops (<1m) of DRR2 on top of LE + LBFH, surprisingly no downside at all.
So I know this might be viable. But it could also be because I use the 11on4/5off schedule, which cuts off the overload symptoms even before they start to manifest at the slightest.

But what if I only apply the split to 2 subs.
A 7m30s B 7m30s C 15m
A 7m30s B 7m30s
There might be a slight overload on the first day, but it will be rinsed off by the lightness of the second.
This might be too risky to try, but what if you’re using shorter loops
A 7m30s B 7m30s C 1m
A 7m30s B 7m30s
This is likely to be viable. I did 15m 15m 15s-50s with LE LBFH DRR2 and got no overload, so I know this is more than possible. But then again, 11on4off is a big factor. So I can’t recommend trying 3 in a day to anyone.