On one listening day?
I think you’re one of a select few that can pull this off and still profit.
Looking forward to your entries.
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Yeah, on one.
I think my intuition is telling me to take a quick break from HeO, but I don’t really want to swap to other subs.
Plus DRR3 has been immensely useful with negligible recon.
I’m curious what will happen if i take it even further.
Worse case scenario, i’ll just take another washout.
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- <6s of WB works. I’ve been increasing it by 1s every listening day, I thought it was gonna take longer.
- This is the first time I can see what WB is like without any significant recon. It’s not as overpowering nor kitchensinky. Everything is clear.
- I’m slowly able to understand how WB is helping me achieve that coquettish/mysterious vibe. It’s also helping me understand how to navigate social situations. It’s as if i have a personal guide telling me what I should/shouldn’t do. The advice in the description that says “you don’t have to put on performances, just be yourself” is spot on.
- Unlike my other runs where I used longer playtime, this one feels natural. It’s the difference between “learning” and “being forced” (for lack of a better word).
Granted, i’ve run WB for many cycles before. So it could be that the tiny loops are awakening the dormant scriptings. Or the tiny loops were enough to shift the focus from the other subs in my stack (DRR & HeO) towards WB’s goals.
Anyway, I’m surprised that I’m getting this much result this early.
I thought I needed to wait until the +1s increment hits 10s to at least get some subtle effects.
I feel more chill & detached. Yet it doesn’t feel as “violent” (it’s a harsh descriptor, but that’s honestly how it felt) as when I ran it back then. It’s as if I’m learning the ropes from a soft & caring inner mentor.
I like it.
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You’re using masked usually, aren’t you?
Once you have a baseline for 2 full loops, I’d be interested in your results from 1 full masked loops and one in ultrasonic.
I tried it once with 2min of RoS, but since I don’t feel the subs so immediately, I can’t find a proper distinction.
I’ll give it a try one day
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DRR3 30m WB 7s
Not much is happening yet.
The last time I did 30m was with LBFH when I first started SC.
I felt lethargic, but that’s just how I feel with LBFH, even with only 15m.
DRR3 gives me negligible recon nowadays, I hope it stays that way even with 30m.
Update 1:
DRR3 has been guiding me subtly thus far.
No recon, no overload, but I’m still cautious.
It usually takes around a few hours for significant recon to hit.
I hope nothing is delayed and everything will proceed as smoothly as it is now.
Update 2:
No recon for the whole day.
The 30m is a success, for now.
Update 3:
This is the next day.
Strangely it feels lighter than when I still had HeO in the stack.
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I wasn’t even aware that that might have been WB’s work until a few hours after.
Well, it was 7s. Some of the effects are bound to be subtle.
Update 1:
I’m sure WB is working because there is one thing that always happens when I use it:
I get called -various banned forum words- whenever I use it.
Jokingly, of course, not maliciously.
But it seems like a way for the harem scripting to maintain the harmony, even when I “jump around”.
They say it to my face as if they acknowledge & accept this part of me that’s enhanced by WB’s influence.
I forgot whether I wrote this in PM or this journal back then. This might be the first time I said it here.
Update 2:
DRR3 made me less negative.
I just realized it now.
Update 3:
I’m starting to understand where WB’s “loss” recon came from.
With only 7s, and i’ve been increasingly noticing this even before, it already makes me “less interested” (not the best description, but it’s close enough) in others on a deeper level.
I get less impulses to strike first, but more free to do so if i want to.
Less impulses to prolong, yet easier if i see fit.
Etc.
If it’s already this noticeable even with <=7s, then no fucking wonder i’d feel as if a part of me was violently ripped away when i used 15m.
Details of the recon back then.
It was so strong that i dreamed about me/others dying almost every day for months, the sadness & disassociation was worse than actually having someone i know pass away.
Taking it this slowly is the right move.
I’m actually enjoying WB to its fullest now with this little exposure.
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Nothing more than negligible recon from DRR3.
It’s even lesser than when i ran it for 15m.
I expected it to ramp up, but it seems most of the recon has been solved, making it smooth even with 30m now.
Not as smooth as DRR1, but far from being as problematic as DRR2.
If nothing goes wrong this cycle, I should be able to go straight to DRR4 next.
But I won’t, i want to drill DRR3 in longer beforehand. I have nothing to rush.
I’ll also not take any month long break from DRR.
Unlike HeO where I need clarity to better understand what to fix and improve, and how to approach them, DRR is just a booster. I can be confident that it is boosting something even if i lose clarity about what it’s doing.
DRR3 30m WB 8s.
I’m feeling the push to take an extra rest day like usual, but I want to see how running 30m of DRR3 in a normal interval will affect me first.
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Did you ever try OG Wanted?
Or did you directly start with WB?
Saint mentioned a couple of times that it’s better to build a solid base with OG Wanted before running WB and that many struggle with WB because they jump in unprepared.
I remembered this when recently a new member started his SC journey with WB and senior user congratulated him to that choice. facepalm
Maybe OG would help mitigate recon and give better effects as a whole.
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Nope, only WB.
Unfortunately, lol.
It was the 4th or 5th month I was using SC.
Too soon.
I thought I was ready.
I thought I knew how bad recon could be.
But I didn’t know the recon could get THAT bad.
I’m using WB now because I won’t ever have the space to use it again once I start using HLB next year.
I want to figure out what caused the recon. It’s the perfect time since i also still have DRR in the stack.
It’s now or never, basically.
And I’m plenty satisfied with how it is going now.
It will most likely be easier, but I’m already satisfied with WB right now.
I’ve hit my sweet spot. Enough to learn, heal & get some effects here and there, but not too much to kitchensink my life & give me recon. I see no point in jumping now.
This is why I always recommend against artisanal titles when you’re new.
I always speak up when I see one being recommended to new users.
I know how bad it can get first hand.
Even with an artisanal sub I consider easy like HeO, I can see how it can put someone in a hard time if they are not prepared. I was just lucky that HeO fits my life, goals etc like a glove.
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Did you try it?
Or are you gonna run it another cycle?
Yep, I have to finish this cycle first before that.
15m masked, 15m ultrasonic.
Or I can do that tomorrow actually. The result of the experiment is already clear anyway.
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WB 7s DRR3 15m masked 15m ultrasonic
I used my headphones for the ultrasonic because I don’t want the sound to accidentally leak out.
My room is far from anyone, but there’s no reason to risk it.
I know even a few seconds is enough, no one should get exposed to a strong healing sub like DRR without their will.
Anyway, I don’t feel anything different yet.
The 6s run of WB was softer than the 6s I did a cycle ago.
This is a good sign. 8s should be easier now.
The dreams from WB are getting tamer. They aren’t as grim anymore.
But I’m still getting dreams that come from DRR3’s processing.
I feel like I’m being directed to overthink less and do more by DRR3.
The process seems to be affected a lot by NSE.
Update 1:
Without going into too much details:
WB is the best, holy shit.
7 SECONDS. Even 7s is this strong.
This just confirms that the length of playtime doesn’t fucking matter.
What’s important is finding the sweetspot
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It seems like I caught a cold.
Well, yesterday was “hectic” 
7s was easy. easier than 6s.
It seems I can push to 8s just fine.
If the cold doesn’t get worse, I’ll try using 13 on 5 off instead this cycle and play 8s tomorrow.
Eh… I told myself not to talk too much about these kinds of results here, but how can I when I see 7s having this much effect? I’ll try to keep it vague enough.
Update 1:
I keep forgetting to write this.
WB’s effect that makes you look better is working well.
I also continue to receive more opportunities to refine my fashion sense.
The NSE is affecting this too.
I also feel like i look better.
This tells nothing about how others look at me, but my own acknowledgement is more than enough.
I like this effect.
Update 2:
WB is actually not lowering my productivity. It’s helping me to be more productive in its own ways.
This is completely different from my experience with WB back then before i started running the sub using short loops like this.
At this point, i believe the bad side effects i got from WB are all just from recon. Listening too much out of my real sweet spot.
WB is expediting the social process to be closer to women & opening many opportunities.
Sometimes it feels like it just happens, but i know WB is guiding me step by step.
I just need to follow its guidance and make them second nature.
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WB is so good.
Knowing that I can completely trust my intuition’s guidance is immensely useful in social situations.
I’m pretty confident with myself even before WB, but this is another layer of confidence that I wasn’t aware was even possible before. I’m also adapting well to it.
It’s interesting to see how WB works exceptionally well with women, even when I don’t treat them that differently than guys. Well, this is a romance sub, so it should be obvious, rofl.
I think combining it with DRR3 is boosting the results even further.
WB’s guidance + DRR3’s “processing that leads to detachment” is a potent combination.
I can’t stop talking about WB because I haven’t even moved past 8s yet, and the effects are already this impactful & obvious.
I’m too excited to just keep this to myself.
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I’m having great results from DRR3 + WB.
My productivity is not suffering either. They are actually helping it by healing & giving me a better time when I’m resting. That’s the last thing i expected from WB and 30m of DRR3.
I’ll go ahead with my plan to push HLB back to the middle of 2026 in favor of using more DRR3 first. I can slot in WB in the meantime.
I’ll use +1s every 2 listening days for WB.
I already have great results, i see no need to rush it.
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what’s your current schedule? 1 day on, 1 off, washout every 15(?) days?
yes, once every other day unless my intuition tells me to take extra rest days.
washout after 9-13 days.
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So results from DRR3 are still strong?
No intention to moving to stage 4 anytime soon (like this year)?
Very.
DRR3 is as good as DRR1, but DRR3’s healing is closer to what I need to heal.
Yes, not anymore. I’ll move it to the start of next year, then keep it in the stack for 12 months.
Something like this.
5 months of break from HeO looks impossible to actually follow, so I think I’ll add HeO somewhere in the middle of my DRR3 run too.
Edit:
Revised it because 1 year straight of WB & DRR4 is just asking for trouble.
That’s just gonna repeat the loss of clarity I experienced with HeO.
Lighter color means less than 1m.
I decided to give HeO’s slot to start microlooping the HLB3&4 custom earlier on.