William’s Winning Wayfare

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#1469

Microloop every day is confirmed to be viable.

I just wrote about how much I enjoy the lightness of extra restdays, but damn am i intrigued with this one.

I don’t need to microloop HeO or DRR3 anymore.
That means I need another sub to fulfill this role.

The only subs I can think of are DRR2, WB and UWX.

Using DRR2 is asking for trouble since I already have DRR3 in the stack.
WB may fill the role, but do i want it?
UWX is hard to take action on until a few months from now.

So the only option now is WB.

I’m not enthusiastic about this, but I’m curious as fuck.

I’ll start from 2s, then I’ll increase it by 1s every half a month.

If my guess is correct, the formula is max divided by 4. My max with WB before recon is 20s, so I’ll reach recon territory in 2 months. I think this is long enough to give me a grace period before then.

I’ll try 2 different formats:

  • DRR3 + HeO + WB
  • Rest + WB (2-4 days)
    I’ve confirmed that I can run an additional sub for 1m max with not much drawback (I can’t give this out as a recommendation though). So 31m max total. With the additional listening days in what used to be total restdays, I’m gonna assume the max will be lower.

Or

  • DRR3 + WB
  • Rest + WB
  • HeO + WB
  • Rest + WB (1-4 days)
    This one is the modified fire schedule.

Let’s see how this turns out.

It got unconfirmed.
Well, I’ll wait until it has been tested more.

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#1475

It’s like your symbolically deleting the version of you you’ve outgrown. I like it.

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#1484

I’m getting so much benefits from DRR3.

I’ll take a break from HeO next cycle and use 30m of DRR3 instead.

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#1485

On one listening day?

I think you’re one of a select few that can pull this off and still profit.

Looking forward to your entries.

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#1486

Yeah, on one.

I think my intuition is telling me to take a quick break from HeO, but I don’t really want to swap to other subs.

Plus DRR3 has been immensely useful with negligible recon.
I’m curious what will happen if i take it even further.

Worse case scenario, i’ll just take another washout.

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#1491

You’re using masked usually, aren’t you?
Once you have a baseline for 2 full loops, I’d be interested in your results from 1 full masked loops and one in ultrasonic.
I tried it once with 2min of RoS, but since I don’t feel the subs so immediately, I can’t find a proper distinction.

#1492

I’ll give it a try one day

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#1494

I wasn’t even aware that that might have been WB’s work until a few hours after.
Well, it was 7s. Some of the effects are bound to be subtle.

Update 1:

I’m sure WB is working because there is one thing that always happens when I use it:
I get called -various banned forum words- whenever I use it.
Jokingly, of course, not maliciously.

But it seems like a way for the harem scripting to maintain the harmony, even when I “jump around”.
They say it to my face as if they acknowledge & accept this part of me that’s enhanced by WB’s influence.

I forgot whether I wrote this in PM or this journal back then. This might be the first time I said it here.

Update 2:

DRR3 made me less negative.
I just realized it now.

Update 3:

I’m starting to understand where WB’s “loss” recon came from.

With only 7s, and i’ve been increasingly noticing this even before, it already makes me “less interested” (not the best description, but it’s close enough) in others on a deeper level.

I get less impulses to strike first, but more free to do so if i want to.
Less impulses to prolong, yet easier if i see fit.
Etc.

If it’s already this noticeable even with <=7s, then no fucking wonder i’d feel as if a part of me was violently ripped away when i used 15m.

Details of the recon back then.

It was so strong that i dreamed about me/others dying almost every day for months, the sadness & disassociation was worse than actually having someone i know pass away.

Taking it this slowly is the right move.
I’m actually enjoying WB to its fullest now with this little exposure.

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#1495

Nothing more than negligible recon from DRR3.
It’s even lesser than when i ran it for 15m.
I expected it to ramp up, but it seems most of the recon has been solved, making it smooth even with 30m now.

Not as smooth as DRR1, but far from being as problematic as DRR2.
If nothing goes wrong this cycle, I should be able to go straight to DRR4 next.
But I won’t, i want to drill DRR3 in longer beforehand. I have nothing to rush.

I’ll also not take any month long break from DRR.
Unlike HeO where I need clarity to better understand what to fix and improve, and how to approach them, DRR is just a booster. I can be confident that it is boosting something even if i lose clarity about what it’s doing.

DRR3 30m WB 8s.

I’m feeling the push to take an extra rest day like usual, but I want to see how running 30m of DRR3 in a normal interval will affect me first.

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#1498

Did you ever try OG Wanted?
Or did you directly start with WB?
Saint mentioned a couple of times that it’s better to build a solid base with OG Wanted before running WB and that many struggle with WB because they jump in unprepared.
I remembered this when recently a new member started his SC journey with WB and senior user congratulated him to that choice. facepalm

Maybe OG would help mitigate recon and give better effects as a whole.

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#1505

Did you try it?
Or are you gonna run it another cycle?

#1506

Yep, I have to finish this cycle first before that.

15m masked, 15m ultrasonic.

Or I can do that tomorrow actually. The result of the experiment is already clear anyway.

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#1511

what’s your current schedule? 1 day on, 1 off, washout every 15(?) days?

#1512

yes, once every other day unless my intuition tells me to take extra rest days.
washout after 9-13 days.

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#1513

So results from DRR3 are still strong?
No intention to moving to stage 4 anytime soon (like this year)?

#1515

I would encourage you to get a Name Embedded Version of Hero in the meantime.
You’re still getting good results, but imagine what a Name Embedd could do.
You don’t even need the extra module, just your name in it.

@Juissance switched to an all name embedded stack. He prefers it over customs. Thats how good they are.

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#1518

Man im just gonna listen to all my subs 30s from now on lol dont wanna deal with recon no more just want results

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#1522

When I just discovered SubClub, I figured that I know better than the creators and everyone here and would listen to 5+ subs all day long

Obviously, I didn’t get any results at the time and figured that the subs are BS

Yet, over the next year of rest from subs, I slowly but surely manifested a lot of objectives of the subs in my life, very easily, organically and without even realizing that it happened because of subs lol. So I’m pretty sure that the scripting can stay dormant until the necessary conditions to activate it are met (in my case it was a big break and actions that I took naturally)

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#1523

That’s enlightening.

I think Mogul is also doing just that for me, even after months of no exposure to it.
The changes are still there even after all this time, and sometimes I think some of the effects are still unlocking themselves even without the sub being in the stack.
These unlocks didn’t make sense to me, so I just chalked it off as being the result of DRR, or I’m just that good at what I do, rofl.

But now that you said that, these might have been Mogul’s work.
Some of the effects are already planted inside my mind, but they haven’t been able to fully express themselves. Just because I can’t see it, doesn’t mean they haven’t taken root & flourished in me.

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#1524

I was typing a long response as to why I think it’s a bit different scenario but I realized that it’s not haha

Anyway, I’ll still leave the response, maybe you will find it useful:

I think it’s different from my case. For me, it was just an extremely overfilled processing queue

But also, I’m quite sure that once you fully embody a certain state that the subs aim to bring you, you will just naturally start having results in that direction, so to speak. Kind of like a feedback loop

For example, in that crazy stack I used, I had Heartsong, which during that rest period manifested me a girlfriend of my dreams (meaning, she had every trait that I wanted in a girlfriend). Not only that, I’ve never had any relationships before, nor have I had any romantic interests - so it’s pretty clear to me that it’s Heartsong’s manifestation

Now It’s been more than 2 years, and to this day my relationships just get better and tick every objective from old Heartsong’s sales page (just used wayback machine to check old sales page).

Basically, once you’ve fully reprogrammed the mind and achieved objectives, positive results will lead to new positive results and just reinforce the programming

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