I think it’s gonna be interesting because it seems to be stronger tech than the current ZP… some sort of “unfolding” of happiness - but unfolding hasn’t been worked on since Pre-NSE
It’s harder without RM:UWX.
But I can do this.
I don’t need to add another variable into the stack.
I’m enough.
I just need to stick earnestly with healing & productivity in 2025.
Then i’ll be able to enjoy the creativity stack in 2026.
Maybe i’m just being lazy and searching for a shortcut.
I know i’m not lacking in this, i just need to broaden my horizon.
It’s time to research & experiment.
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Hello this is Viktor.
I plan to use LE + DRR1 in the middle of next year.
While using that stack, i also want to chip away my recon from DRR2.
So i plan to use DRR2 twice every month — once every 15 days — alongside the stack.
I have virtually 0 recon from both LE & DRR1 and I’ve used them for months. So i’m quite confident with this plan.
But i know stacking both stages is a big no-no. That’s why i want to know from support’s perspective, is this plan completely doomed to fail? Or is there a wiggle room for me to experiment considering the infrequency of DRR2 in it?
Hello,
Thank you for reaching out and sharing your plan! It’s great to see you approaching this with such thoughtfulness and confidence based on your experience with LE and DRR1.
From a support perspective, using DRR2 twice a month, spaced out by 15 days, may provide some wiggle room for experimentation, especially since you’ve reported virtually no reconciliation with LE and DRR1. The infrequency of DRR2 could allow your mind time to process without overwhelming it.
That said, we do recommend caution when mixing stages, as the scripting in DRR2 is designed to focus on different goals compared to DRR1, and reconciliation may arise from conflicting objectives. Pay close attention to how you feel after incorporating DRR2. If you notice any discomfort or prolonged reconciliation, it might be worth adjusting your plan.
Ultimately, every individual’s experience is unique, and a balanced, mindful approach like yours is key. Let us know how it works for you or if you have any other questions along the way! We’re always happy to help!
Best regards,
SubClub
Plan approved, Moving the date for the customs to mid 2026.
On second thought, why am I limiting myself to only 2 years for healing, creativity & productivity?
A solid foundation will have a bigger payoff in the future.
Why don’t I extend the plan?
1.5 years of DRR1,2,3
2 years of DRG
1 year of DRR4
with LE for 4 years and UA from whenever it’s updated.
I’m not rushing for anything sub-wise.
There are other subs that I want to use like AS & ME, but they can wait.
I also have enough wealth, social life etc that I don’t desperately need a sub to prop them up.
It only makes sense to invest in a solid foundation.
After looking at the timeline again, this makes a lot more sense.
I’ll be here for a lifetime. It’s better to structure the plan to get the most out of SC for the long run throughout my lifespan than to approach it haphazardly, swinging from one sub to another, getting results that will be lost when a new shiny sub appears.
Focus on long term changes.
The longer I use a sub, the longer the changes will stick.
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Since you’re one of the foremost experts on HeO, do you think the virtue scripting could work for sales?
I don’t know if you have any experience with sales at all, my reasoning was just that I know I’m selling the best product on the market, and every potential customer could profit extremely if he bought my product. But still, I can’t get myself to do the job with passion (I’m getting a grasp of the reasons for this slowly).
So I thought, since not reaching out and offering our product is basically failure to render assistance, so the virtue scripting might push me in this direction…
The skills scripting is probably helpful as well, but I was mostly inspired by your virtue spot above.
Sorry idk where I saw this but I read you’re sticking to ST2 of The Mind Illuminated?
This is mentioned in the book as not the way to go.
Once you’ve had an experience of the meditation in stage 2 being easy, go to stage 3, learn what’s in there, and then alternate between stages 2 and 3 depending on your state and attention that day.
There is absolutely no benefit to sticking to ST2.
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Oh fuck i missed that from the book.
Thanks for reminding me.
My thought pattern was “the benefit i got from stage 2 is enough to support what i want, so i don’t see why i should go to the next stage. I can spend time focusing on it even more before advancing”.
But if the guide literally says that it’s not good, then I may as well follow the expert’s advice.
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DRR2 3m AHJ 20s
There’s recon.
It could be from DRR2, AHJ or both.
The recon now is “avoidance”.
There are also subtle hints of the usual “power” recon from DRR2.
I’m sure that this is a recon because, like usual, the source is from deep inside, it shakes & bypasses the defense & structure of my mind and it just feels distinct from normal negative feelings.
I’m glad I chose to lower the exposure & use slow microloop.
Update 1:
Solved the “power” recon again by taking a walk while doing an introspection.
I guess the fix to recon from DRR2 is just that.
It’s the same thing. That means I just need to prepare time to do that whenever i listen to DRR2.
There’s still the usual tiny subtle recon.
It’s never really a problem as long as i lower the listening frequency.
Once every 7-8 days should be small enough.
The more I use DRR2, the closer I get to the true balance between what the sub is helping me become and what I truly want to be.
I’m keeping an open mind on what DRR2 shows to me.
If it makes me want to embrace being something, I oblige and fully immerse myself in it.
Seeing the extreme helps me decide whether I want to go more in that direction, adjust it down or both.
So far, I like where DRR2 is bringing me towards in terms of internal power and the projection of it.
It’s working well. I like what I see.
I just have to increase the frequency of use very slowly until I reach once every other day.
Update 2:
Wow, i didn’t expect that manifestation.
DRR2 is strong.
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Note to self:
Be persistent & serious.
No punishment nor rewards.Experiment on these.
Update 3:
There’s a hint of extra happiness in what I do, in discovering things, in living life.
For now, it only shows up sparsely. I wonder how it will be once I’ve been using AHJ longer.
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I begin to feel it again.
That distinct lack of fulfilment.
It’s the reason why I started using LBFH a few months ago.
This happening now, when I’m not as busy as I was back then confirms that I falsely attributed being too busy after going so hard with LE as one of the reasons for the feeling of lacking.
This is not a work life balance problem, this is a recon.
A recon that was just so conveniently solved by LBFH.
That means using a third sub, like LBFH, is enough to fix the problem.
I need to ramp up AHJ’s exposure. AHJ is the fulfilment sub.
It would be strange if AHJ couldn’t solve it.
This means I can go hard at focusing on productivity again.
It’s now clear that my obsession wasn’t the problem.
It took 2 months to figure out, but at least now I know.
I’m glad there’s AHJ. If there’s no AHJ, I’d only know about this after I used LBFH for half a year.
Contrast is one of the best ways to understand recon, and most importantly, myself.
With that out of the way, EB is now back on the table again.
I don’t need to be afraid of work life balance anymore.
I can get back to how I usually am, focusing on work.
If EB is updated in the fourth quarter of this year, I’ll try to use it.
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Could also be AoH recon causing the lack of fulfillment.
And by recon, I mean “realization….”
You need to experience and realize your lack of fulfillment before you have the intrinsic drive to fix it, right?
Just like how before people become powerful on The Will To Power, they realize where they’re being manipulated… and how before people become dominant on Khan, they see all the shit tests that people are using to steal dominance and confidence from them (which they never noticed before)
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Since I can focus on productivity again after I’ve switched out of LBFH, I’ll cut out social media again.
That means forum is also on pause, again.
I tried cutting out social media 2-3 months ago, but DRR2’s lack of fulfilment recon forced me to get out of it. Now that it’s mostly over & figured out, I can attempt the optimization again.
Journaling will be stopped for a bit, but I believe finding clarity about “power” was enough to resolve DRR2’s recon going forward.
I’ll still visit the forum one or two times a month since saint said LE will be updated this spring.
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I was noticing that you’ve had many good creative ideas over the past months. Made me want to come and see what titles you’ve been running.
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I FOUND IT
I found a deeper insight for my fulfilment.
Strangely, when it clicked, it felt like LE & DRR2 has been building up to this moment. AHJ is the bonding agent that made me realize that about fulfilment using the foundation of both of the subs.
I can see how this boldness, inner power, perseverance is immensely useful for when i’ll use the RM subs later on. The inner power to not only be free to be creative, but also to execute it with conviction. To put it simply, “My way is the way”, as the cover says it. DRR is really the perfect foundation.
I think I understand why SC chose “freedom” as the foundation for RM. Although DRR is not RM, it gives me a glimpse of how having much more “freedom” can be more beneficial for creativity.
It has only been a few days, but it feels like i’m rediscovering the joy in all of these for the first time. The possibilities, the vigor, the anxious-excitement, it’s like i’m a child eager to play near the sea.
Before it clicked, AHJ was intensifying the subtle avoidance i had eversince i stopped HeO. Now i guess the process of self discovery has finally yielded its results.
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That must be from LE.
It’s the only cognitive enhancement sub i’ve used over the past months.
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Or maybe it’s just you.
I don’t know. But I did notice it.
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I have been thinking about this for months, but it just clicked after I got back up from DRR2’s recon.
Most, if not all of what I learned about how to meditate is applicable to achieve other things.
The contrast of “no recon > DRR2’s recon > no recon” showed me that this is true.
The problem with my approach to productivity is it’s mostly focused on the outside.
Outside restriction, outside optimization etc.
The “next level” of productivity that I’ve been trying to discover is inside.
I thought I knew, but I didn’t. I needed to gain clarity on this and I wasn’t even aware of it.
I thought what I did inside was good, but it was not deep enough. Meditation & the method of meditation taught me this.
There are still a lot of experiments to figure out more about this.
But I’m sure there’s something to be found here.
I feel like every time I stop journaling, I gain better clarity about what to write, what to focus on.
It’s not “write whatever I think about” anymore.
Is journaling once in a while actually the better approach for me than doing it every day?
There are pros and cons, the only way to know is to test it out.
For now, I’ll write the journal only if I truly need to like this one.
Otherwise, I’ll continue with the social media hiatus.
This is the better option for now.
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I think I’m getting an “avoidance” recon from AHJ.
It’s not confirmed, but a suspicion is enough.
I’m not gonna risk it. I’m dropping AHJ.
The results are great, but my main goal with AHJ is to soften DRR2’s recon.
If it adds more recon then it defeats the purpose of using it in the first place.
I still want to use a third sub besides DRR2 though.
So far I’m confident that I can run DRR2 once every 6 days now. However, I’ll still stick with 7-8 days.
I can use a third sub in between when I’m not listening to DRR2.
But I can’t use a new sub, it’s too risky. I’ve already risked it with AHJ and that’s enough for now.
HeO, DRR1, RM:UWX & Mogul.
These are the only options I have.
I also want it to have NSE because LE doesn’t yet. So that leaves me with DRR1 & Mogul.
I’ll think more about these options.
Are you sure that this suspicion isn’t recon itself?
- Relentlessly Switching Titles / Title Jumping: Wanting to constantly change up your stack can be a sign of reconciliation. This one is a bit hard to see, because many people simply enjoy seeing what subliminals can achieve and will buy every new title simply for the science. That being said, we’ve observed that MOST people who title jump due to reconciliation will also engage in some weird logic by claiming to switch because the subliminal “isn’t working,” but will proceed to purchase multiple other titles, jumping from one to another because “they aren’t getting results.”
When recon manifests in switching titles and you decided to drop AoH for something new, than your suspicion could be a way your subconscious found to make you switch.
Usually this happens when the results we see are threatening a wounded part of us that we keep most dear.
It could be but it doesn’t matter.
I’ve set out the rule before I even started AHJ.
If it gives me recon, i’ll stop it.
I was already compromising by gambling on a new sub.
If I could, i’d have chosen ME instead of AHJ.
But I needed to focus on softening DRR2’s recon.
If 1 full loop & 5 microloops gave me a subtle recon, then I don’t want to unnecessarily increase the risk of it compounding and giving more recon on top of DRR2’s.
My goal is not to get what AHJ could offer, but to soften DRR2’s recon like what LBFH did.
If i can get more while i’m at it, then it’s good.
But if it just brings more risk of recon, then it loses its purpose altogether.
If i want to push through the recon on top of DRR2’s, I might as well use ME.
I see you’re rocking a new name 
I’m missing crucial lore in my absence, rofl.
Have you thought about revelation of mind? I realizing that you are very obsessed with understanding how your mind works. That’s what revelation of mine is about. It’s also a productivity sub, cognition enhancer of sorts, and a general results enhancer…
It’s not NSE but it’s close. I think “unfolding” tech was what NSE is based off
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