Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)

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#1151

Old problems resurfacing in my dreams.

Good, that means DRR2 & LBFH are working on them.

I can feel the changes that DRR2 brought when i look back at the memories.
I’m in control. I have the power. I’m confident in it.

I’m still surprised that i was using similar words with DRR’s description in my journal above.
I was going at it blindly, just describing what i experienced.
Turns out everything i wrote was in line with DRR’s objective list.

That’s 1 loop once every 10 days.
This shows how potent SC is even with this small frequency of exposure.
It’s not conclusive yet though, i still need to continue the experiment.

#1152

LE 1m50s LBFH 6m

I want to increase LE more but i’m gonna stick to the plan. +10s every listening day.
The productivity from LE is this good, I wonder how the updated version in spring will be.

#1153

Hello this is Viktor.

I plan to use LE + DRR1 in the middle of next year.

While using that stack, i also want to chip away my recon from DRR2.

So i plan to use DRR2 twice every month — once every 15 days — alongside the stack.

I have virtually 0 recon from both LE & DRR1 and I’ve used them for months. So i’m quite confident with this plan.

But i know stacking both stages is a big no-no. That’s why i want to know from support’s perspective, is this plan completely doomed to fail? Or is there a wiggle room for me to experiment considering the infrequency of DRR2 in it?

Hello,

Thank you for reaching out and sharing your plan! It’s great to see you approaching this with such thoughtfulness and confidence based on your experience with LE and DRR1.

From a support perspective, using DRR2 twice a month, spaced out by 15 days, may provide some wiggle room for experimentation, especially since you’ve reported virtually no reconciliation with LE and DRR1. The infrequency of DRR2 could allow your mind time to process without overwhelming it.

That said, we do recommend caution when mixing stages, as the scripting in DRR2 is designed to focus on different goals compared to DRR1, and reconciliation may arise from conflicting objectives. Pay close attention to how you feel after incorporating DRR2. If you notice any discomfort or prolonged reconciliation, it might be worth adjusting your plan.

Ultimately, every individual’s experience is unique, and a balanced, mindful approach like yours is key. Let us know how it works for you or if you have any other questions along the way! We’re always happy to help!

Best regards,
SubClub

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#1154

I noticed that I didn’t get the motivation boost anymore after I stopped using DRR1.
I thought that was from LE.
Was it DRR1 unlocking this effect from LE?

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#1155

On second thought, why am I limiting myself to only 2 years for healing, creativity & productivity?
A solid foundation will have a bigger payoff in the future.
Why don’t I extend the plan?

1.5 years of DRR1,2,3
2 years of DRG
1 year of DRR4
with LE for 4 years and UA from whenever it’s updated.

I’m not rushing for anything sub-wise.
There are other subs that I want to use like AS & ME, but they can wait.
I also have enough wealth, social life etc that I don’t desperately need a sub to prop them up.
It only makes sense to invest in a solid foundation.

After looking at the timeline again, this makes a lot more sense.
I’ll be here for a lifetime. It’s better to structure the plan to get the most out of SC for the long run throughout my lifespan than to approach it haphazardly, swinging from one sub to another, getting results that will be lost when a new shiny sub appears.

Focus on long term changes.
The longer I use a sub, the longer the changes will stick.

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#1156

I always talk about the extra layer of productivity provided by subs. An extra reason to keep going when everything has been exhausted

LBFH gives one based on healthy attachments.
HeO’s boosts are based on the virtues. You persist for something higher.

LE is different.
It feels like i just have that extra layer.
It feels enjoyable to go across and beyond. More than the usual.
The extra layer is based on the “going beyond” itself.

This might be an influence from DRR too.
But it’s interesting nonetheless.

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#1157

I’m itching to use DRR2 again.
I guess I’m gonna use it before 15 days.

#1158

I haven’t moved on from stage 2 of The Mind Illuminated for more than a year.

I’m sticking to the simplest mindfulness meditation.

Stage 2 is building sustained attention by reducing mind wandering & other distractions.
Focus on my breath while keeping my awareness.

It’s enough for what i need.

I don’t see a reason to rush to the next stages.
My goal with meditation is to help my performance which i already gained enough. So I’m okay with taking longer than others with the stages. Having a better foundation is good anyway.

#1159

DRR2 15m LBFH 6m45s

Let the recon roulette begin :grimacing:

Update 1:
No recon yet, but let’s see. It usually takes a few hours for a full loop to show its effects.

Update 2:
Still no recon.
If it continues like this then it might be possible to stop LBFH entirely next cycle.
Please stay with no recon.

Update 3:
It has been 6 hours, no recon.
This might be the time to switch.
I’ll still observe for the next week before switching.
If the recon is truly over, i’ll start with DRR2 3-4 times a month alongside AHJ first then switch to DRR1, before fully committing to DRR2.

Update 4:

I feel like the repressed thoughts & emotions are bubbling up, like what usually happens with DRR2.
But now I’m more prepared inside to observe & accept them.
My usual reaction before was to put them aside. Label them as bad & attach bad emotions to them.

Now I understand that I don’t need to do those extra steps.
I can just observe the thoughts/emotions/sensations raw and accept them for what they are.

The goal changed from being afraid that letting those feelings inside of me would affect me negatively, annoyed that my bliss is disturbed by them & wanting to purge them by going against them, to just observing & accepting.

I have been talking about observing & accepting repeatedly since a year ago.
What I said above is not new. Look back at my journal a year ago and it’s the same thing.
But it’s just hard to put into words how deep & different my understanding has gone.

I’m completely accepting of one thing but I’m struggling, even unaware, of the other.
It’s a constant game of figuring out more about myself.

Non-resistance is the road to freedom.
I have known this for a decade, but knowing isn’t enough.
It’s a skill that has to be trained.

#1160

Since you’re one of the foremost experts on HeO, do you think the virtue scripting could work for sales?

I don’t know if you have any experience with sales at all, my reasoning was just that I know I’m selling the best product on the market, and every potential customer could profit extremely if he bought my product. But still, I can’t get myself to do the job with passion (I’m getting a grasp of the reasons for this slowly).
So I thought, since not reaching out and offering our product is basically failure to render assistance, so the virtue scripting might push me in this direction…

The skills scripting is probably helpful as well, but I was mostly inspired by your virtue spot above.

#1161

Honestly, I’m not sure if HeO is what you need.

I’m passionate about what I do first, and then HeO enhances that passion & devotion to an absurd degree. I know what I provide will benefit them a fuck ton and I’m personally passionate about seeing my customers enjoy, live & thrive with them. If you haven’t found that connection between those two yet then using HeO is more of a gamble.

If you want to use HeO for this reason, be sure the reason comes internally from yourself.

Use HeO if you genuinely want them to profit extremely from your products.
Think twice if it’s only a logical justification to increase your passion.

Just because what you offer is objectively helpful for other’s well being, doesn’t mean the virtues from HeO will manifest in that direction. The virtues are unique to you.

This is where the gamble lies. If you haven’t found that “calling” yet, in the worst case, it might lead you to an improvement separate from the sales job altogether, which later you have to hold back to retain your focus - this is a similar situation that happened with some subs I’ve used.

But I’m sure you can experiment with HeO if you want.

Sales is not really my field of expertise. I can’t be compared to a seasoned salesman.
It just so happens that I’ve never really needed to go deeper into it myself in every field I’ve been in.
But I still often take part in it.

HeO’s help was really indirect.
I didn’t feel that much increase in my actual sales skills, I wasn’t focusing on it after all.
But I know It has helped me one way or another. I was also stacking HeO with Mogul & RM:UWX here and there, so it was obvious when some aspects of HeO played a part in their wealth manifestations.

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#1162

No significant recon still from 15m of DRR2.

Was the realization about power etc last week enough to resolve the recon?

I planned 8 months of using DRR2 2-3 times a month to resolve the recon. I didn’t expect that 2 months was enough.

It’s time to change the schedule again.
I’ll start with 4 times a month.
Jumping straight to once every other day is just asking for trouble.

I’ll reset the progression to 0.
+45s every listening day.

I’ll also start to use AHJ next week.
It’s not as volatile anymore now that the recon is done. I can drop LBFH for it.
AHJ will make adapting to DRR2 smoother.
+10s every listening day until 7m30s.

Update 1:

15m of DRR2 after having the recon cleared out by realizing more about personal power is amazing.
My acceptance was based on powerlessness. I see what’s happening in the world and I know I can’t do anything about it. I just do my best despite whatever happens.
Now I can view it from the frame of power. I still know that I can’t do anything to meaningfully change the world, but I view it from the perspective of personal choice instead.

Not only my view of the outside, but the most important change is my view on what’s happening inside.
I used to think It was inevitable that I would feel/think certain things. It’s just the human nature.
Now I still think the same, but I can view it from personal power instead of powerlessness.

As usual, it’s hard to put into words just how big the change is.
It’s something that has to be experienced.
DRR2 is strong.

Update 2:

Wow… i didn’t expect DRR2’s manifestation to go like that. That’s absurd.
I can’t say the details but DRR2 is strong.

Update 3:

I’m still waiting for recon. It’s not here.
There is subtle recon, but nothing significant.
I’m happy with this.

I still won’t jump straight from using DRR2 once every 8-10 days to once every other day.
That’s how i got my ass whooped by WB.

#1163

LE 2m LBFH 7m30s AC 8s

It has been 2 days. No significant recon from 15m of DRR2.
It’s safe to say that there won’t be any recon from it.

This is the last day of LBFH. AHJ next year.

AC +1s every listening day, 4 times a month is working fine.
I still can’t get over the symptoms of overexposure from using a long loop of AC.
It has been almost 2 years. AC is just a tough nut to crack.

Update 1:

Now I understand why Ascension & Emperor are the progressions before DR.
Those subs are about personal power, viewing things from the lens of power, inside & outside.
That was what I lacked, which caused the recon from DRR2.

It could be worse though.
I would be fucked from both ends if I didn’t spend time using HeO & LBFH before this.

Now that I looked back, I spent:
~12 cycles straight on HeO
~12 cycles total on LBFH
~10 cycles total on Mogul

1 cycle = 26 days, regardless of where the washout is located.
HeO & LBFH are shy of 1 year since a year has ~14 cycles.

So far their effects are the only ones that stuck.
Their effects are not as strong as when I actively use them, but they have changed me as a person. It’s hard to see myself reverting back to how I was before I use them.

The effects & changes from the other ones like WB, RM:UWX, Exp RM:V, and DRLD are all either extremely subtle or downright unnoticeable anymore.

I used all of them for only around 4 cycles.
That means 3-4 months is not enough for long term changes.
If I had spent an extra 2-4 cycles on each one, I’d have a better, more long lasting outcome now.

Well, that’s 1.5 years spent experimenting with a smaller amount of cycles.
Now I’m even more sure that a real change requires more.
at least 6 - 9 months is my guess.

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#1164

I should have taken an early washout.
What was the use of listening to LE back then? It was Christmas.
My workload is not as much as usual.

I gotta prepare for after new year though, so I’ll use LE tomorrow alongside AHJ.

#1165

LE 2m10s AHJ 10s AC 10s

AHJ +10s every listening day until 7m30s.
15m twice every month.

Slow progression.
I don’t expect a recon, but since there’s DRR2 in the stack 4 times a month, I won’t take the risk.

The foundation of my inner sense of power is being shaken up by DRR2.
It feels weird, but it doesn’t affect my productivity. The balance is great.
It’s perfect for what I need. The shake up makes it easy to spot problems within its structural integrity.
DRR2 is awesome.

If I run it more than 3-4 times a month, it might be too much.
So I’m gonna keep it light now as a precaution.

I believe I’m getting recon from the L part of LE.
I just don’t pay that much attention to it. I’ll let it do what it’s supposed to do in the background and reap the benefit after. I wonder what will I get.

Update 1:

Not feeling anything from AHJ yet.
Well, it was only 10s. I didn’t expect a miracle.

Update 2:

I don’t feel any different. 10s is definitely too low for AHJ.

I know that it’s too small to expect anything, but I’m paying attention to it anyway even with the small exposure because my experience with RM:UWX, WB, Mogul etc showed me that 5-10s is enough.

I’ll use 20s tomorrow alongside 3m of DRR2. Let’s see how it will differ

#1166

I’m losing the push to socialize from LBFH already.

Good, it has done its job softening the recon from DRR2.
Now I can fully focus on productivity again.

I’m taking a gamble on AHJ.
I assume it can fill my need for fulfilment to soften the subtle recon build up from DRR2.
But if it’s giving me even more recon instead, I’ll drop it.
My goal with AHJ is only to make DRR2 easier.

#1167

Sorry idk where I saw this but I read you’re sticking to ST2 of The Mind Illuminated?

This is mentioned in the book as not the way to go.

Once you’ve had an experience of the meditation in stage 2 being easy, go to stage 3, learn what’s in there, and then alternate between stages 2 and 3 depending on your state and attention that day.

There is absolutely no benefit to sticking to ST2.

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#1168

Oh fuck i missed that from the book.
Thanks for reminding me.

My thought pattern was “the benefit i got from stage 2 is enough to support what i want, so i don’t see why i should go to the next stage. I can spend time focusing on it even more before advancing”.

But if the guide literally says that it’s not good, then I may as well follow the expert’s advice.

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#1169

DRR2 3m AHJ 20s

There’s recon.
It could be from DRR2, AHJ or both.

The recon now is “avoidance”.
There are also subtle hints of the usual “power” recon from DRR2.

I’m sure that this is a recon because, like usual, the source is from deep inside, it shakes & bypasses the defense & structure of my mind and it just feels distinct from normal negative feelings.

I’m glad I chose to lower the exposure & use slow microloop.

Update 1:

Solved the “power” recon again by taking a walk while doing an introspection.

I guess the fix to recon from DRR2 is just that.
It’s the same thing. That means I just need to prepare time to do that whenever i listen to DRR2.

There’s still the usual tiny subtle recon.
It’s never really a problem as long as i lower the listening frequency.
Once every 7-8 days should be small enough.

The more I use DRR2, the closer I get to the true balance between what the sub is helping me become and what I truly want to be.
I’m keeping an open mind on what DRR2 shows to me.
If it makes me want to embrace being something, I oblige and fully immerse myself in it.
Seeing the extreme helps me decide whether I want to go more in that direction, adjust it down or both.

So far, I like where DRR2 is bringing me towards in terms of internal power and the projection of it.
It’s working well. I like what I see.
I just have to increase the frequency of use very slowly until I reach once every other day.

Update 2:

Wow, i didn’t expect that manifestation.
DRR2 is strong.

–

Note to self:

Be persistent & serious.
No punishment nor rewards.

Experiment on these.

Update 3:

There’s a hint of extra happiness in what I do, in discovering things, in living life.
For now, it only shows up sparsely. I wonder how it will be once I’ve been using AHJ longer.

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#1170

I begin to feel it again.
That distinct lack of fulfilment.
It’s the reason why I started using LBFH a few months ago.

This happening now, when I’m not as busy as I was back then confirms that I falsely attributed being too busy after going so hard with LE as one of the reasons for the feeling of lacking.

This is not a work life balance problem, this is a recon.
A recon that was just so conveniently solved by LBFH.
That means using a third sub, like LBFH, is enough to fix the problem.

I need to ramp up AHJ’s exposure. AHJ is the fulfilment sub.
It would be strange if AHJ couldn’t solve it.

This means I can go hard at focusing on productivity again.
It’s now clear that my obsession wasn’t the problem.

It took 2 months to figure out, but at least now I know.
I’m glad there’s AHJ. If there’s no AHJ, I’d only know about this after I used LBFH for half a year.

Contrast is one of the best ways to understand recon, and most importantly, myself.

With that out of the way, EB is now back on the table again.
I don’t need to be afraid of work life balance anymore.
I can get back to how I usually am, focusing on work.

If EB is updated in the fourth quarter of this year, I’ll try to use it.

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