@Forum_Ambassadors same exact question different thread.
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I started with emperor three cycles ago. The changes are noticeable and distinct, especially with NewEmp, but at times I wished I had started with Ascension.
Since its not as broad in the objectives, it might have shown growth sooner and more distinct.
On the long run Emperor probably is the better choice, but if you want fast distinct results, I’d advice for Ascension.
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How old are u?
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30 years now
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Wardrobe: I started subconsciously choosing clothes, and style combinations that made me appear more attractive. I think a lot of it has to align with who you are and how you look, but generally I was a lot cleaner. A good analogy is how Eddie Morra got a haircut and changed his look in the movie Limitless. He cleaned right up and became presentable. I was already presentable but I turned it up a notch. After a long time my entire wardrobe was completely different.
Hair: Hair on my head got really thick. It also got fuller, and darker. Easier to style. This weird effect where I can pull off a messy/clean look, but it’s still good lol. Like sexy type of messy. There’s a nonchalance to it. Before Wanted, I would just get a normal safe cookie-cutter haircut. The subliminal had me developing character in my hairstyle, and go outside the box a little. I’ve had countless compliments from women about my hair, and numerous comments from men while running Wanted. “Cool hair”.
Skin: My skin got smoother, darker, and more blemish free. I stopped getting blemishes and my skin got more hydrated. I’ve had other men ask me for my skin routine, and women compliment my skin while running Wanted.
Body: Strong masculinization of body and facial features. Shoulders got broader, my friends even complimented on it. I burned a lot of fat and gained a lot of muscle. Abs became prominent. I had even stopped working out and was still keeping the gainz. Women started commenting on my rear, something I had never gotten before prior to running Wanted.
Face: My facial features become more cut. Jaw got more square. Eyes got panther-like. There’s an easy-going, relaxed and magnetic quality to my eyes that developed.
I also felt a lot more attractive from every angle, such as my body language and how I carry myself. I think it’s a factor in the appearance.
Most of the results are permanent. The only thing I’d that isn’t permanent, is the energetic type of “veil” that your eyes have. However, that’s not really considered a physical aesthetic feature.
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Nice summary, how long have you been running it?
I did three cycles yet, though one and a half was within a custom.
I did not change my wardrobe, only bought a few more jewelry pieces, but was already wearing those I had so nothing new. Started playing again with pheromones.
Also nothing unusual with my voice. Many of you commenting on this change.
A big change is my muscular frame I am starting to get to a real spartan figure but suffice it to say I also change my training and taking something which can very much help and probably KB is increasing my testosterone.
Nothing unusual with haircut too, same old same old. My skin is ok because my skincare products are good.
I am not gonna stop WB, have planned to run it a long time, like years long time.
Also, there is probably a factor that I have over 40 and it plays a role in physical changes.
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I ran Wanted for about 8 months straight. I have a timeline somewhere of everything I’ve run. Probably needs an update but:
Mind you, I haven’t watched pornography for over 4 years and I have a decent flow factor to where I can run any title for a few days and write an essay on internal effects. I also take MASSIVE consistent action, and I’m one of the most aggressively vocal advocators for action on the entire forum.
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That’s probably from WB then. Wanted led me to some very mysterious fragrances and scents, as it does for a lot of folks.
For a long time on Wanted, my signature was Ganymede which someone here said (I forgot who) is the ultimate WANTED scent.
If you’re running Wanted or WB, you just need to run it consistently… there’s a lot of stuff in it. When I was running WANTED… it didn’t do everything at once. I think your subconscious prioritizes things and slowly moves the goal post.
There are many discussions about this, like for example:
If you’re like 19 years old, low self-esteem and afraid to leave the house. It might take 3 months just to go through enough change to leave the house. It’s all subjective to where you’re at. But once he leave the house, then his subconscious mind starts working on the next thing. It’s like checkpoints, you keep leveling up. If the 19 year old, just decided to leave the house early on… he would move past the checkpoint faster. Be proactive, and forward moving.
That’s why if you’re running WB or Wanted… just get in the gym from out the gate. Putting yourself in positions, be around women, etc. Assist the pathways, open them up, and let the subliminal breathe. If you’re horny, then don’t go binging pornography… it’s stupid and tricks your mind into thinking you’re getting sex. You should be upward trajectory, keeping up the self-image, self-worth, and moving through things such as recon. You might have your insecurities come out of you and get emotional, but that’s just part of healing and internal shifts. Stay grounded, practical, be consistent and take action. Stay away from bullshit, and you should generally be good to go.
Minimize all coping mechanisms whatsoever. People do this, and stagnate the movement because they don’t want to change. Take breaks from the forum, don’t use it as a coping mechanism to give yourself the illusion of socializing which a bunch of people do.
(this is all my opinion).
Anyways, cheers lol.
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WB, for sure I am not dropping it any time soon.
Firstly I started with niche fragrances on recommendation from Brazilian superhero Zarod and then somehow transited to pheromones.
I think the priority is calmness, emotional stability, nonreactive behavior, etc. and later will come other things like maybe a change in voice tonality, haircut, wardrobe, etc.
Next cycle I am incorporating Phoenix to speed up changes. Currently on washout.
Cheers
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Exactly, it comes in like generations in my experience. Especially the manifestations.
I once went through a whole week of emotional swings, getting smacked up by limiting beliefs, becoming aware of things I was doing which I didn’t want to admit, having flashbacks of scenarios in my life where women gave bad looks (because I had needy vibes lol). I felt like total, complete shit for a week.
I moved through it all. I got out of my comfort zone - that’s the key, and that’s all that change is.
I felt a perceptual shift after, and suddenly women started manifesting every where like crazy, opportunities started manifesting etc. I manifested scenarios of getting uncanny IOI’s, and everything was more natural.
This is why when I hear folks say “reality is a reflection of your internal”, I look at some of my life experience and think “well maybe you’re on to something”, lol.
I’m also one of the most aggressively vocal advocators for self love on the entire forum. I have threads on this shit before folks even had LBFH. It’s because self-love and giving yourself compassion, allows you to face things you don’t want to about yourself. It’s facilitator for movement and helps you stay grounded through negative emotions, overcome limiting beliefs, and anchoring to movement/change rather than coping mechanisms/stagnation. Internal power also helps you overcome fears and get out of your comfort zone.
In any type of healing (physical, emotional, sexual, etc doesn’t matter) period, self-compassion is at least 50% of it. Also, helps with recon.
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Curious, I know it varies from person to person, but after what number of cycles does this happen?
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Like I said, with the example of the 19 year old… it depends on where one is at.
For him it might take 4 cycles just to leave the house. Then another 2 cycles to get in the gym. Depends how many internal blocks and fears there are… how screwed up and far off the internal framework is. Also, flow factor and various other things.
Generally when it comes to growth in my opinion, your progress all depends on how strong your base is, how willing you are to change and leave your comfort zone, etc things like that.
However, this is all my opinion. I think you will get results because shit, everyone is getting results with NSE. Lol. Keep it going champ.
That will be interesting, good luck lol.
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Thanks 
I achieved 8% bf for the first time last year when I ran it for 6-8 months or so
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8% bodyfat?
Yep 8% bf
Game changer for me.
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Thx for the Ganymede suggestion, got a sample and love it.
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Nah bro, that wasn’t a suggestion. I was just sharing my experience…
People really just jack your swag on here, roflmao.
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