Let’s see guys
What are your biggest pet peeves on here?
I’ll start with mine:
People who keep on spamming and asking about a product everyday, yet don’t even use them when their out 
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People who claim physical shifting results after 1 loop. Not saying it can’t happen, but most likely like @Tobyone mentioned in this post:
Summary
In most cases, it’s the perception that has changed, not your physical body. Physical changes can and will happen if you continue running your physical shifting sub of choice, but the idea that one loop of LoS or Wanted caused you to gain 2lbs of muscle overnight, or made your jawline sharper via bone realignment is simply not reality.
This isn’t to say that you can’t say… run your first loops of LoS, choose to eat a lot of carbs and salty foods which results in a much bigger pump during your next workout. (This is a valid result)
Or maybe you hop in the sauna lose a bit of water weight and notice your jawline showing a bit more. (This is also a result)
These are realistic results in the short term. But gaining muscle, losing body fat, and bone alignment don’t happen overnight. It takes time. If physical shifting happened the way some users claim here, SC would be taking over the entire fitness industry.
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Sometimes I see viewpoints dismissed because it doesn’t align with other’s experiences. Everyone is welcome to share their views, I just get a little annoyed when someone self appoints themselves an authority on a matter and won’t be open minded. I’ve seen interactions get very defensive where it’s almost like you can see the recon from two individuals manifest in the forum due to the incompatibility of beliefs systems.
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I remember a user asserting that he lost 12% or more of bodyfat overnight (Literally overnight).
Total BS
What is worst: some other users asserting that it was possible cause ALL that you believe you can achieve.
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Sub hoppers who won’t stop sub hopping and won’t stop asking why they’re not getting results.
People who have little to no knowledge of how Sub Club’s technology is designed and try to fight @SaintSovereign and @Fire over something they don’t understand in the first place.
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Yo bro is Spartan out? I’m thinking of running it in about 7 months!
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Hermit
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Duuuuude dont do that!!! Now we will need a banishing ritual.
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I don’t think @Tobyone was making a case for quick physical shifting. He was journaling a result from running a particular subliminal. And self-perception is also a result.
To add to that, such types of thoughts would encourage faster manifestations and it is better to do that than to dismiss what you think is a result.
I used to think the same but lets also understand that most people don’t believe in the power of their minds. They have too much of a victim-mindset and don’t think they are the creators of their lives. Heck even as a believer in subliminals and taking responsibility for my life, I have days when thinking so is difficult.
But the large majority of people aren’t like us. They believe their circumstances is because of their genes, parents, god, religion, politics, etc and will continue to blame others for their lack of success in life.
So even if SC keeps advancing to the point of perfection, they will never take over the world and that’s okay. There will be enough people who come here to take matters into their own hands and that’s who SC wants to help.
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Banishment title coming soon lol.
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The truth is most of us don’t know the real nature of reality, we can only experiment and observe. What’s “realistic” is an ever moving goal post. Saint has said this before but some of us are listening to a hyper sped up audio recording for sometimes less than 15 minutes and profoundly changing our lives. I come from the era of subliminals where it was a minimum of 8 hours, anything less than that was unheard of. If you presented me with this tech then I would have called bs straight up.
Hypothetically speaking if reality is dictated by collective thought forms then it makes sense a barrier to rapid physical shifting is not only in our own beliefs but the very real and physical manifestation from the collective as well. So in a way you are correct, current reality has this limitation of no overnight changes.
Hypothetically of course. But I bring it up just to float you the idea that “realistic” can sometimes be a limiting belief itself and it’s good to be open to more.
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I get the nature of people chatting on forums so it’s probably never gonna stop, but this one gets to me when I’m searching for something specific…
…prolonged, meandering tangents on the main product threads. Not talking about the hype posts, some of those are at least entertaining, but the completely off-topic ones that go on and on and on sometimes and make finding actual sub results take much longer than necessary.
My scrolling finger has abs now guys…take it to the Emperor’s Lounge, or comments section, ya know?
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I am about to run Eog st4 in 2026 
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Off topic 
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People writing on product threads because they are bored or hyped. Nothing of essence. People joking around on product threads or fighting/arguing. And last one people not sharing results on product threads
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When someone is saying that Spartan is going to be delivered tonight
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Judgmental much? 
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Threads like this one
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That is one of my pet-peeves. We humans are judgemental creatures and it is fine until it’s integrated in a healthy manner.
People that do not recognize that their own spiritual and religious beliefs are not universal and who start arguing about whether the subs channel angels, demons, change past lives, move the morphic field, or might anger Cthulhu.
People that obsess with process over outcomes. Instead of muscles and libido, they want some hormonal changes. Usually, they are not experts in endocrinology. Instead of having the goal of meeting more women, they obsess over height.
People that make strong pronouncements with no evidence whatsoever. “Beliefs are the only limit to physical shifting.”
That alpha dude who tries to use subs for world domination. Luckily, without success.
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