Started agian, question on my stack

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#22

I’m a bit confused now… I’m probably misunderstanding but this is what I read in the masterclass:

While both subliminals and manifestation techniques work with the subconscious mind, the very mechanism that is used to do so is fundamentally different – so lumping them together and trying to solve all the problems in the subliminal industry and with individual’s subliminal results through manifestation is destined to fail

… all of this due to the subliminal and the things it is helping you to accomplish, not due to your conscious techniques

What we are recommending is, if you desire to learn manifestation, the one that is currently becoming more and more popular, that you disconnect it from your subliminal usage.

Can you expand a bit on what you mean in the first quote please, cause I’m confused now

#23

:point_right: God Does Not Call The Equipped, But He Equips The Called (Exodus 4:10-11)
:point_right: May He equip you with all you need for doing His will ( Hebrews 13:21)

@Solomon : How do you know if subs are not the slingshot God equipped you with so you can defeat the Goliaths that stand in your way? Have you ever thought about it?

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#24

@Jim : How do you know if subs are not the slingshot God equipped you with so you can defeat the Goliaths that stand in your way? Have you ever thought about it?

Brother, before we have this discussion. I would like to respect the wished of @fire and @SaintSovereign for not discussing it here on the forum. I just asked a question regarding a personal stack, that’s it. I just came back from 9 months of this forum and already starting some trouble :joy:

We can always discuss it with PM tho, would love to dive deeper into it with you. But let me be very clear. I do not blame or say that subliminals are bad or that Subclub makes them with bad intentions. I’m just trying to find my way in this subliminal world after coming to Christ and not trying to put my own desires in front of his.

#25

There is no need to discuss it really. The answer was is the question.
:point_right: For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. (Jeremiah 29:11)

The way I see it is that whatever appears in your life that helps you reach your goals is part of God’s plan to prosper you.

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#26

Couldn’t disagree more. There are many opportunities, chances, and “good things” that come on your path that are not from God. It looks good, but it isn’t what it is supposed to be. The devil is amazing at deceive Agian let me state this please, not saying that subclub is sinful

This on the other hand is a good argument. I’m going to ask and search on it. Already asked some pastors from different bible studies and some forums. Again just searching here, not making assumptions.

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#27

If you went to choose only one title, run Chosen. It’s been recommended by Saint and Fire as the best choice for teachers. You will teach by your positive leadership and charisma.

Stark is also a good choice. Don’t mistake it as a feminine title because it is unisex. It has social dominance and it also helps with learning and networking.

Choose either of those. And after running it for a while (Chosen or Stark), you can always add another title to your stack like Limitless or Genesis: Mogul or Inner Circle.

You don’t have to be worried about things in the subliminals overtaking your religious beliefs. Saint and Fire have taken great pains to make it neutral and ONLY be a tool for your mind. It’s like wondering whether the hammer or car you are choosing will make you stray from God.

But if you are too worried about it, it is good idea to stay away from subliminals since that doubt will always remain in your mind. The reason why Saint gave the example of other religious folks having trouble with subliminals is to not say that you will have the same issue but to warn that it could happen to you due to a mismatch in what you think the subliminals will do and what it actually does. So he is giving the warning before it troubles your mind later.

But if you think of subliminals as God-sent then you will have to accept that any title that helps you reach your goals as okay.

Personally I think you have your head on straight and you are humble. Traits that are lacking in a lot of religious folks. In my opinion, you will do fine.

Just be careful of your thought process and how you write about the subliminals here. Use them to help achieve your mission and don’t judge others here who choose a different path of life and you will be fine.

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#28

Thank you for this. Very kind of you and it cleared something up for me.

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#29

Am glad I could help and look forward to your spiritual, professional and financial growth :pray:

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#30

I just want to throw in two more verses pro loa since I believe it’s a basic method for prayer.

Mark 11,23f

23For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

24Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

Looking at the Greek text, I would roughly translate verse 24b as "Believe that you already have it and you will get it.
For me, that’s equivalent to the law of attraction. Feel that you already have it and you will receive it.

And then there’s also

James 4,2:

yet ye have not, because ye ask not.

Don’t be a fool, just use this tool.

When you’re not asking the way Jesus taught, don’t complain.

#31

@AnswerGroup ?

#32

Go take a look at Reddit, see how many results they are getting.

That is what happens when New Age and their manifestation ideas take over the subliminal field, rather than developing the subliminal field as it’s own science and art.

They are taking a different mechanism and trying to apply it to a field that is not applicable to it, and hence it results in failure. Sadly, it is a gross misunderstanding of older knowledge that was plucked out of more genuine traditions, and degraded to “just believe hard enough and be positive all the time”.

Not how it works.

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#33

So you are saying manifestation is at the root at subliminals but today it is generally misunderstood?

#34

Yes.

There is manifestation in the aggregate of society, and there is manifestation as per an individual. Both operate simultaneously.

War, starvation, disease. Yep that exists. It existed before you were born. Therefore, you didn’t have to “give your attention to it” for it to exist. Also ignoring those things doesn’t “make it go away because you’re not giving energy to negative things”. Those things represent the aggregate consciousness of humanity. You address the cause (level of consciousness; Law of Mentalism) and then you get the effect (elimination of much suffering). When 51% of the population is thinking about humanity as one big family, there will be a world beyond most people’s imagination.

As for one’s personal life, it’s still the Law of Cause and Effect, and the Law of Mentalism. It starts with thought, intention, attention, and emotion. You activate the physical body with action towards your objective(s) with Unity Consciousness (thought, emotion, action harmonious [without inner conflict or contradiction]).

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#35

Yeah that makes sense.

What we are recommending is, if you desire to learn manifestation, the one that is currently becoming more and more popular, that you disconnect it from your subliminal usage.

But what I was wondering is what is the view of the kind of manifestation “that is currently becoming more and more popular”?

@AnswerGroup

#36

HOM is very alpha, it has 90% of the emperor script + more dominance and alpha

#37

I’m going to run it tomorrow or Monday after 2-3 washout days. Will run it with NR and see what happens.

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