Whats the go with having dreams involving snakes since using subclub?
I’ve had a number of these as reoccurring and keen to hear and understand other peoples interpretations.
The snake was a common motif in the plant medicine circles I would run in many years ago. I understand these to be indicative of transformation and healing.
Appreciate the hive minds thoughts.
A better question would be:
What meaning does it hold for you?
It is your subconscious after all.
Sounds like you have found your answer already.
Totally. I’ve never been a fan of ad hoc dream interpretation from external sources, as it is your own subconscious that is manifesting the dreams and it means something specific to each individual.
These have just been rather consistent and wanted to ask the question. A snake bit me last night lol.
The go is that things are happening internally.
I’m not a big fan of dream analysis, unless you’re doing specific, niche work related to healing through dreams. An example would be running Revelation of Dreams or something.
For most people however, it’s literally internal doomscrolling. You will never know with 100% certainty what your dreams actually mean. They’re literally open-ended forever. In a sense, you’re engaging in a cognitive energy drain of trying to get closure that you will never get access to. If your subconscious is trying to get you to understand a lesson, or consciously integrate processing through symbology - why would it use something that you’re so unsure of that you have to ask other people about what it means - who by the way, are all going to give you different answers.
A lot of dream analysis is:
Your argument is internally consistent, especially if you’re talking about the culture of dream interpretation rather than dreams themselves.
The core of what you’re saying is that dream analysis has the structure of an unsolvable optimization problem:
That’s very similar to why doomscrolling is compelling. Your brain keeps thinking, “Maybe the next piece of information will finally make everything click.” Except instead of scrolling social media, you’re recursively analyzing your own mind.
Your point about the subconscious is also philosophically interesting. If we assume the subconscious is part of your own brain, then why would it communicate in a code so opaque that:
That seems like a strangely inefficient communication system. It’s one reason many psychologists today are cautious about treating dreams as encrypted messages that require decoding.
Yeah, the comparison works because the mechanism is surprisingly similar.
External doomscrolling is usually:
Internal doomscrolling can look like:
Dreams are almost perfectly designed for this trap because they’re highly salient but low-certainty. They feel important (“why would my brain show me that?”), but the available evidence is weak. That combination is basically catnip for the human pattern-seeking system.
The funny paradox is that the search for meaning can sometimes become more psychologically significant than the dream itself. The dream might have lasted 30 seconds and been forgotten, but the investigation becomes a multi-hour mental event.
It’s similar to checking a notification repeatedly:
Except the “feed” is your own consciousness.
A more grounded approach some people take is: “Interesting. My brain generated a strange simulation while asleep. What emotion did it leave me with? Does that emotion point to anything actionable today?” Then you stop. You don’t keep refreshing the page.
The irony is that sometimes the desire to decode every internal signal can actually pull you further away from what’s happening internally. You become an analyst studying yourself instead of a person experiencing yourself.
Like everyone else has said, dream symbols are very much a personal thing, and they can mean different things at different times. It also depends on what type of dream you’re having (and there can be different types).
I agree with the general principle of what @Skadoosh is trying to convey - you need to figure out how much of your time and energy you want to spend trying to figure out why it’s coming up for you. You could ask yourself what subliminals are you running, and can you see any connection between the symbol and some aspect of your goals in running the subs? Or is the symbol perhaps coming from a completely different place and it’s just your mind trying to tell you something it doesn’t have the right images to tell you about directly?
Revelation of Dreams is definitely a handy little tool, but it’s mainly for people who are wanting to explore that aspect of themselves in more depth. And only you will know whether that’s something that interests you.
All I can say for certain is: if you approach the realm of dreams properly, it’s definitely not a waste of time. If you want a bit of inspiration… and there’s not much info on this topic out there easily accessible… look into the Russian dream hackers, a lucid dreaming group from Russia from the 1990s. TIGER123 (a young YouTuber who every now and then puts out a video I find interesting) did a video on them a while ago; I think there’s about one other major YT on them I found at one stage, but the data is really scattered.
Basically the moral of the story is they found that if you start mapping out your dream reality using a dream journal or whatever techniques when you wake up, you’ll start to find certain repeating themes, and the process of mapping out the geographical locations in the dreams ends up giving you more clarity in the dream realm, more lucidity. They also found a bunch of much more interesting consequences which is what made the story such an underground internet rabbit hole for a while. Rather than boring you with the story, if you’re interested to learn more, it seems Third Gate have put the archive back together of some of the old material. It might give you a few hours of amusement.
I’m obviously not sanctioning or recommending anything from the site, only dropping this to point out that there’s a lot more to dreaming than most people are aware of. And the absolute critical key element in your life you want to focus on if you want to start understanding or gaining control over dreaming, or more lucidity, is to learn how to concentrate. The more you can learn to enter flow states where your mind is one pointed (which is something there are programs available to help with on SC), the more likely that you’ll be able to find the reason behind the symbols you encounter in your dream, by entering more consciously into that realm when you sleep. Concentration / meditation to that point of flow state also has a lot of other big benefits that will help you use the subs to the maximum extent to accomplish whatever it is that you are after. Really it is a lack of focus, a scatteredness, that stops ordinary people from becoming legendary. You can start by making it a game to be more fully present in your actions/body and environment whenever you’re just living ordinary life, whether it be making a coffee, chatting to a girl or going to work. Hobbits have tiny feet but they cover a lot of ground 