Should I leave university?

My opinion is simple. If you don’t have a clear and precise alternative that is already present and that you’re already working on, stay in school and get that degree. You’ll never feel sorry for getting a computer science degree. It opens the door to a lot of possible careers, not to mention consulting and entrepreneurship.

You’re half way through, stay the course. 2 years is nothing. Unless you already have a credible alternative and school is what’s keeping you from pursuing it.

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KSub said it better than I ever could. I’ll just be rambling on my own past and it’s not that helpful.

Think things through. You’ll find your answer. Best of luck friend.

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First question are you paying for the degree?

Second question is how old are you?

Careful with this one. Having recently gone through the hiring process for potential IT candidates we had to advocate HARD for HR to not gatekeep with degrees. Well that’s my experience in the US at least. It’s absolutely ridiculous how tied to degrees businesses still are despite how utterly meaningless they can be for certain fields. It’s possible to rise above that noise but it’s very difficult. Having a degree is valuable just because of the perception it brings, I know it sucks but that’s how the general population has been conditioned to think.

Third question, if not pursuing this degree what are you planning on doing?

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I realized/decided 2 years into my degree that I didn’t want to do that anymore… so I switched majors. Basically started all over again… my parents were not happy. I was though, as I liked my new major much better. (just a different branch of engineering). What’s funny is that I’ve since found myself in a career doing much of what I’d started out in the first major, and now I love it. haha.

For me, it was an easy decision to switch (just a costly one…) but not one I’d suggest ANYONE take lightly.

Best of luck with whatever you choose!

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The decision here isn’t whether or not you should leave university.

The decision here is whether or not you want to live your life through the fear of losing your parent’s approval.

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Okay everyone has given great advice here. Will add to this.

Now when thinking of making a decision, you have to really put yourself in your future and ask yourself “Am I going to regret this decision or be happy with it?”. The reason being that some of us value a degree and others don’t as much.

I am one of those who think there is something inherently rewarding about completing what I started and also the self-discipline I get from sticking to my decisions.

This doesn’t mean that I should continue something I dislike. I could change majors or if am absolutely sure of myself, quit university and begin career early.

Whatever decision you make, think it through very carefully. Give it a whole day or two thinking it over and over, looking at the pros and cons and on what you want.

And once you make that decision, go all the way and never regret it.

All the best, brother!

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@SaintSpring Probably a dumb question but what is Applied Computer Science?
Is there a big difference between that and Computer Science?

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It seems to me that in some cultures, seeking approval from parents is highly valued, sometimes even prioritized over personal happiness. However, I believe it’s important to find a balance and prioritize our own well-being while also respecting our family’s values and beliefs. Its something i have had to struggle with for a long time.

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Hi @SaintSpring, good to see you as always.

I don’t know if you should leave university because I don’t know you.

But here’s what I do know. People have a tendency to put a lot of thought and detail and planning into what they DON’T want. “I’m going to leave this.” “I’m going to get away from that.”

This tendency is literally built into our default, automatic mental processes. It’s not personal to you. (We have evolved to remember, anticipate, and contend with pain automatically. So nature takes care of that one. Meaning? Contentment? Joy? Those are your own problems.)

So instead let me give you a question or two three:

  1. What would university have to be like in order for you to have an excellent, meaningful, and satisfying experience in university?

Use details. Not just emotionally-fueled generalizations.

  1. What specifically would you be wanting to achieve in your business in order for it to be really satisfying? In the next 3 months… In the next 6 months… In the next 12 months… In the next 2 years…

  2. If you were applying for a job last week, what would you consider to be the optimal job and working situation and why?

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If you leave, are you gonna live off of your parents money? Or do you earn your own living?

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It can be a difficult decision to drop out of university, especially if your family expects you to earn a degree. It’s important to weigh the pros and cons of this decision carefully. On the one hand, if you are not interested in the subject matter and find it difficult to study, you may not perform well on exams and struggle to complete the degree. On the other hand, having a degree can provide some advantages in the job market, such as greater job security and access to higher-paying positions.

If you are considering dropping out, it may be helpful to speak with an academic advisor or career counselor to discuss your options and how dropping out might impact your future career prospects. You can also consider taking a break from school for a semester or year to explore your interests and gain experience in your desired field before deciding whether to return to university.

It’s important to remember that pursuing a degree is not the only way to achieve success and fulfillment in life. There are many successful individuals who have not completed university degrees, but have instead gained experience and skills through internships, apprenticeships, or on-the-job training. However, it’s important to have a plan in place and be prepared to work hard to achieve your goals, whether or not you choose to continue pursuing a degree. Ultimately, the decision to drop out of university should be based on what is best for your personal and professional goals and well-being. :thinking:

Additionally your level of drive and determination can also play a significant role in deciding between pursuing self-employment or obtaining a degree. Those who are highly motivated and proactive in seeking out lucrative opportunities may be better suited for entrepreneurship, while others may lack the necessary drive and prefer the stability and structure of a degree program. It’s important to evaluate your own goals, strengths, and motivations to determine which path is the best fit for you.

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@Trader @Apollo @ksub @Fractal_Explorer @BLACKICE @Skadoosh @Lion @RockyHandsome @Malkuth

Thanks everyone! My decision is to stay at uni. Am gonna do everything to finish this 2 damn years.

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your question is is absolutely good, sir.
Applied CS students study CS in a particular field. It could be engineering, government service, finances, medicine. They learn CS and basics of their field, not pure CS. Computers Science students are broad, but not wide specialists, whilst Applied CS students are narrow, but deeps specialists.

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Great decision! :raised_hands:
As someone who spent a lot of time in university, I know first hand that getting a degree is not the easiest thing to do, we all had to face doubts at some point . I just NEVER met a computer science graduate who said :" I’m sorry I got my degree, I wish I didn’t finish". :joy:

Good luck young bro! You got this! :muscle:

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Staying or not staying is not the fundamental point.

The point is learning yourself, your values, your motivations, and so on.

This period of thinking about leaving is letting you know that there is some work to be done in clarifying your direction. This has to happen from the inside. There’s no external decision or situation that will remove the question.

But it’s also not a question that needs to be answered in one weekend or even in one month.

So, I’ll still pose the same questions to you:

These are just a starting point. And you can feel free to replace them with other questions that match your situation more specifically.

But try to explore the questions about what you want.

No matter what direction you choose, staying in university, working in one field, working in another field, the moments of conflict and choice will still come back.

If you work with your questions it will build the muscles that help you to deal with those times.

There are a bunch of subs that help with this too.

But the ones that come to mind most clearly are: Emperor, Revelation of Mind, and Dragon Reborn.

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@SaintSpring I am pleased that you made the time to think things through and decide on a way forward.

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I thank you very much for your contribution to my development as a person, @Malkuth
Truly, sometimes I may consider you as my father.

I’m running Emperor right now. It hasn’t enlightened my true goals yet, though. I’m not sure for 100% what and who I want to be. As @Viking reported before, I feel like my life is pointless now. But you also told him this:

I have this theory that when the deeper levels of mind are preparing something for us, it first manifests in our awareness as a sense of lacking that thing.
So, in my view, your mind is preparing greater balance, meaning, and purpose for you. As a result, you’re currently experiencing a lack of these things and a desire for them. Your mind is actually preparing the space in you to receive these things.

So I suppose I’m going through the same way as our fellow Viking. I would like to run RoM, but I have 3 titles in myself stack already (Emperor, Love Bomb and EoG).

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That’s a great stack. Stick to it for a whole year and see what happens.

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yes, I’m intended to have two years of Emperor and EoG. I wonder what would happen if I run Love Bomb alongside with them for such a long time haha.

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There is a reason why LBFH is my favorite sub. Run it with Emperor for 2 years and you will become emotionally bulletproof. I credit Emperor for giving sky high self confidence and I credit LBFH for increasing my self-love to levels I never thought was possible.

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