No. I meant if you’re going to listen to it on the same day, at the same time every week. At that point, there is no “before or after.”
You all are going to have to slowly get used to the idea that less is more. With ZP v3, possibly even ZP v2 MAX’s optimized build, you won’t need to listen that often. In fact, listening more often may not even boost results. It’ll be more about consistency.
Only the smallest bit of scripting. LotS is LotS – it’s built for this.
@SaintSovereign In this case if someone has a custom with Wanted Black would it be better for them to have Serum X or Extreme Exercise Motivation?
I been preaching it but noone’s listening 
The official recommendations need to be completely re-vamped.
I haven’t seen many people who can actually run 3 titles @ 15 minute loops every 2nd day for the full 21 days without way too much recon and reduction of results.
As I see it, with that schedule, people are completely burnt out within 14-18 days.
Even @Sub.Zero, the most regimented, recommendation-following-user that I can think of, has recently journalled that an intuitive listening pattern is more effective for him (if I’m reading his posts correctly - he can feel free to correct me!)
Official Recommendations and Best Practices are just sooo different.
Sales page says to listen to 30s of DR:LD if it’s your first time, and bro, even 1m of it SLAMMED me with recon…
Imagine someone not on the forum, not reading results, just buying and trying subs themselves, listening for 15 minutes every second day wondering why his life is falling apart?
Official should be something like listen to 5 mins every 2nd-3rd day, if you can handle that no issue, add a second subliminal, or add more time. IDK, that’s for you to decide, you guys got this 
I don’t even run subs or customs for 15 mins lol. I usually do 5 - 7 mins every other day mon-fri with weekends off
I’ve been using 15 minute loops of 2 or 3 title stacks since ZP launched. Only time I experienced bad recon was when I was not following the “pushes” some titles were giving me, and when I skipped the wash out between changing titles.
Let’s not be dramatic. No one’s lives are falling apart. Not a complaint we’re receiving. Most of the people here tend to use really hard stacks because they’re driven, which leads to increased recon. We’re not actually at the point where we HAVE to lower everything, but that’s the end goal.
Can we get a wealth sub for the users who already are walking the walk and want to run with the (really) big boys?
No hand holding, no finding your purpose. Just wealth generation to the max. A sub that is not meant for the beginners.
i just stick to 5 min… whether it’s a sub or a multi core custom
good thing rest days are important with ZP subs… unlike before you need to listen to it daily for 2 to 8hrs minimum (previous tech). ZP really changed the way we use subs… we’re lucky to have SubClub
i use bone conduction headphones and it still works perfectly as intended.
i think of subs as planting seeds… let it grow roots in your mind on rest days.
Isn’t this RICH? I always view EoG as the journey to find what is your path to money and RICH is turning on the afterburner.
I don’t know. Is it?
There’s a lot more to building wealth than just manifesting.
Haven’t read the sales page for RICH in a long time. I’ll have to check it out.
R.I.C.H. is money manifestation for those who already have multiple paths of revenue. It supercharges the manifestation scripting in any other wealth sub, as well as provide its own manifestation scripting. It can be used by those who don’t have income generating vehicles, but it works best when you do.
@SaintSovereign : If I’m running Genesis + RoM and I just launched a Shopify store (in addition to having a full time job) , adding RICH to the stack is a smart move, correct?
Then how about a wealth program for people in a corporate setting, like instead of generating more wealth, it’s hyper focused on generating more wealth from the job itself.
This can be done in many ways, like how my extra 18k last month was a sum of a few bonuses, which is what this sub could manifest (similar to how Chosen does it) more opportunities, whether it was through promotions, delegations, getting to join big projects, or even getting the chance to lead big projects.
Could be a fun idea too
NOOOOO. Job is one of the worst curse words that I know.
Bro not all jobs are bad 
I’d rather be a director of a department at the place I work at (Qatar Olympic Committee), rather than being an entrepreneur
But then again, that’s mostly because regardless of money, the place you work at here dictates your status a lot 
I am unemployable. I have huge problems with authority. I simply cannot stand people telling me what to do. Been like that always.
Yes, when needed, I’ve worked 2 jobs at the same time. But it was always just temporary.
I am the one creating jobs, having people work for me.
I think this is due to where you live too, right?
Because I remember studying about why there are less overall Arab entrepreneurs, and it’s due to how different the people with “high authority” act here, compared to the west 
How about we both agree on telling Saint to make 2 versions
Or generalize them under a common theme of milking out as much money from whatever action you’re taking to make money 
This one is better, infact, I said in a prev post about EoG St5
Works for me 
I just want something that is meant for people who are already succesful. Not a newbie product.