I don’t doubt that and I won’t ever say ZP or whatever doesn’t work. I just wish at times that I could understand what goes into what makes the subs the way they are. I now it will never happen but it doesn’t stop me from wishing. Unless of course that would be detrimental to growth and change
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Less power.
Why lessen the power of a sub ? Seems counterproductive
The overdoers and stuff.
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I remember seeing those glitches in my peripheral view and jumping into the future (a few hours) while dreaming haha
Was fun, but it’s a bit “unstable” I guess for regular use 
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How about the time I forgot about needing to pay attention to what color the traffic light was? That was weird
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I hope you understand this just my natural expression, truthfully, from the now moment — when my experience with Zero Point changes so will my expression.
Gladly, I have been actively conducting research, and scraping the forum for information on how to make ZP fully effective for me and to get amazing results and momentum with my current stack (Paragon and Custom).
I’m endeavouring to make a grand transformation, and all my forces are directed towards this effort.
I do not see that we are clashing but hopefully, by my efforts and will our experience can soon unite. 
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Again, the issue is that you’re running too many titles, switching incessantly without washouts and overexposing. Your Zero Point experience will change when you follow the guidelines and recommendations. We can’t allow you to confuse beginners by claiming your ZP experience is overwhelming when you’re experimenting by your own volition. It simply cannot happen.
If I have to do it, I’ll affix a title / badge to your account stating that you’re experimenting and overexposing. We’ll slap it on your profile, at the top of all your posts, etc.
That goes for anyone. If you’re going to experiment, you cannot claim that Zero Point is too powerful or whatever. You open up liability issues, and you’ll confuse our customers.
It simply cannot happen. This is a decision that’s already been made, it’s not up for negotiation. I have to think of customer safety first before all over things.
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My exposure has been far below the recommended instructions.
I’m using a Custom with Paragon Sleep (2 programs), that being said, I’ll decrease exposure, running 30 seconds appears to be working well for me.
Anyhow, I do not mind that batch if this means that is resolves the issue where I’m confusing others as this is not done intentionally.
Dude, don’t do this. If I have to go through your posts to illustrate my point, I’m going to view that as a waste of time.
My time is scarce and valuable, and when a person causes me to waste my time, you’ll find that my demeanor and propensity to work with them on things changes, and not for the better. Especially when it’s so blatantly obvious that the individual is indeed doing what I claim. I don’t know if you have an issue with authority figures or what, but there’s no need to double down fighting against a rather simple request and simple concept as to why we can’t allow this to happen.
We are not changing Zero Point, and if we were, we definitely wouldn’t do it at what feels like gunpoint.
You all should know me by now. I fear no man and I’ll do what needs to be done to protect the company and even more important, protect our customers.
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On the topic of experimentation, is there a way for us to discuss it on the forum with causing possible liabilities for you? If I recall there used to be a section of the forum used for experimenting. I’m not too keen on putting my experiments in the open as I don’t want to influence new people, but I’d like to have the input of others doing the same.
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You can do so publicly as long as you publicly say that you take responsibility for the experiments you would be conducting.
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How do you feel about one of us starting a thread in the Emperor’s Thread, with people that do have some form of subjective insight into this book chipping in with their personal findings? With the idea that yourself or Fire will view this and take what is useful and do away with what is not?
I wouldn’t be one of these, I’ve not studied that text before.
But this…
This does bring a smile to my face.
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My apologies @SaintSovereign did not mean to waste your time or make angry honestly just trying to figure ZP out
I wish you understood my intentions.
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There is clearly a miscommunication here, and I don’t know how to resolve it. I don’t think you are trying to cause harm, I think your intentions are good. But you have to stop making blanket statements about the technology as a whole based solely upon your personal experience.
That’s all we’re saying.
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This is exactly why i don’t really post on my jounral on here anymore lol… i def do not follow guidelines and would rather not confuse newbs and others
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If I understand correctly, this 30 second microloop experiment is daily with all your subs?
Or does it still follow the recommended listening pattern, but just with micro loops instead of standard 15 minute loops?
I understand it’s an experiment and not something being suggested for everyone to try, nor is it a new recommendation. Just trying to better understand how you are going about it yourself.
Thanks!
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I’m doing it daily, but only with two titles per day. Then, I rotate one out and bring in the third. So far, so good. This may be the breakthrough needed for hard gainers, stonewallers and those who can’t handle the full loop.
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So, if I understand correctly, the pattern is something like:
Sub X, Sub Y, Sub Z
1 - X Y
2 - X Z
3 - X Y
4 - X Z
or is it more like
1 - X Y
2 - Y Z
3 - Z X
4 - X Y
or do you swap the third sub in after a set amount of time, like a week or something?
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I’ll try out this schedule with just two titles per day, 30 seconds each
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