Nothing to forgive man… I love these behind the scenes looks, and it definitely humanizes the team to know you struggle philosophically as much, if not more so, than all of us when it comes to human achievement.
My assumption is that all that nonsense stems from the fact that ZP feels ethereal compared to Q. It’s not intense when processing and executing and it doesn’t have to heighten your energy levels much in order to work. It’s not pushing you “forward”’ like Q used to do but let your subconscious’ stream flow out through the doorways the scripting unlocks.
Precisely, since the confidence and inner comfort Emperor unlocks in me boost my social skills and make me more playful yet respected in social situations. Moreover, those factors (the confidence and inner comfort) boost my expertise in my field and help me perform at work way beyond my usual level. All of that is natural and effortless. I suppose, the scripting enhances those qualities in you that aid you in reaffirming it.
I will say this, I ran Emperor Qv2 as my very first sub, I ran it for a month with ok - ok results. Then came ZP. It made me a beast of a man !!! Productivity ? Nailed it ! Self-Belief? Nailed it! Ambition? Nailed it! Masculinity ? Nailed it ! ZP is potent in every way, and ZPv2 Max is simply off the charts, no recon, better results, more manifestation, way more potent !
Like for example, while running new WB, I am naturally becoming that man, it feels as if its my decision not something forced upon me.
The truth: I have yet to fully express the potential of the programs that you were offering 2 or 3 years ago.

I love every upgrade you guys make. It just gets better and better.
Anyone who just takes a breath and calmly takes stock of how this company works can see. It’s no secret.
The central feature of this company is innovation.
They can’t help it.
It’s just who they are.
Innovators gon’ innovate.
They (Saint and Fire) just happen to be very good at it.
I genuinely believe it would be difficult to remove innovation from their business model.
In case it’s not already clear, I have a lot of faith in this point.
So let them do what they need to do.
Just think about it for a moment.
Based on everything you’ve experienced since whenever you happen to have signed on here:
Can you imagine any version of Sub Club in which new innovations and unfoldings do not occur in the next 3 to 6 month period?
I honestly can’t.
So, if they’re healthy, happy, free to work in the ways and conditions that suit them best,
what do you think will be the result for you, the user of these products?
Well, what do you think?

Owls go ‘Whooo’
Dolphins swim.
Sub Club innovates.
Don’t worry about it.
Instead, worry about setting the goals and conditions that you want in your life, and then using these and other resources to help you reach them.
And when someone–anyone–creates and offers resources that are helping you, value that someone; and create a good and supportive space for them.

When is the fire sub releasing, dont know if i should wait or just make my custom wich covers my goals
Probably better to wait to see what it is first

From my interpretation he’s not talking about a new sub, but New Emperor Blacks updated script
No it’s a new sub, check Fire’s journal
Ah, I am looking forward to both!
@SaintSovereign Is there a way for us to provide better feedback on whatever we’re running other than journaling?
So glad to read this!
All 3 points but the quote doesn’t need to be that long.
You guys have always had the power to do these things & do so with grace and the full support of the community. The fact that you haven’t is literally just you guys trying to live up to crazy high ideals that in theory are the right ideals but in practice are making life Damn hard for you. Kudos to you guys on your character there.
The forum is a place for deeper discussion & for those people who are interested to learn more about the products & methods. That is the system. But the system breaks if the forum is flooded with false information. Then the forum becomes debauchery that the average user finds impossible to sort through.
I’m currently recovering from a very bad flu, my words may not be as well structured, but I tried to think of a suggestion and it’s quite complicated.
Whatever you and Fire decided, I believe it’s going to be fair and will benefit SC and their true users as a whole. I know this company is for good, adheres to the noble vision of making one legendary, giving one a chance to improve his/her life and truly live. I admire SC for that.
I can only share about my own results, and I don’t understand the mentioned feedback about Emperor Black, as far as I know it was still the same version that was released, and that version is powerful.
I only ran it in a limited capacity, but as did previous Emperor Q, one loop of Emperor Black helped me to quit cigarettes cold turkey.
The signature strength of character and will is alive and well with Emperor ZP, Emperor Black and the all New Emperor.
Emperor has a distinct feel, and a distinct effect on me. Even if I experimented ( I won’t) and blindly ran a three titled stack randomly, I’ll know if Emperor was there.
Same goes with Khan and Stark. My opinion is that whatever made Emperor, Emperor, Khan, and Stark remains the same. The vision for these titles remains intact.
This is why I appreciate the innovations from SC because some of them could gel better with my personality and my current predicaments and aspirations.
Chosen and Khan Black are some of these new breakthrough titles that gelled so well with me, and I’m looking forward to finding more gems with SC.
This isn’t the first time we’ve had a disruption, it seems to happen whenever a breakthrough is being made.
However, it sounds like it has escalated this time and being threatened like this is no joke and should be taken seriously.
I hope you and Fire and all the staff of SC remains strong, calm, safe and maintain your peace of mind.
There are parts of the world, and cultures across the world, including parts of America, where having ANY emotion, compassion, empathy, love, connection, or or expressed positivity is the equivalent of being a woman. Some men die by this belief that they need to never smile, never care, never look tough. Their whole lives are violence and the use of an image to threaten/prevent it.
Those people who run a sub like Stark and feel some extraversion, then think they’ve “become” a woman, may be referring to that… and it’s those same people who demand Uber-dominance
Feel better Bro. Love you
There was more than one person who did this and then got banned, unrelatedly, for their uberdominant views
why dont you want a subliminal with better advanced technology for your progression . iwant it because so far subliminals haven’t had the effects on me that i wanted.
Put another way… let me know if this seems right or wrong…
Q was the type of scripting that dominated your being. You had less of a choice on the results you’d get.
ZP is less dominant in the sense that it works with you, for you, and from you. Your subconscious has the control, not the sub.
Would that mean that the guys screaming about dominance on Q being stronger are actually the guys that wanna be dominated??? 
To each their own bro 