I’m imagining how Dragon Reborn might synergize with Vortexdive Crucible.
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and, funnily enough, here I am exactly six months later, running a Terminus custom that has both Dragon Reborn and Vortexdive Crucible.
@Friday did you ever get more clarity on your questions about Vortexdive Crucible?
As usual, I “know” less now than I did then. 
But my current perspective is like this:
There are some emotions that people experience as “negative”, “difficult”, or “challenging”. When those come up, we 1) freeze, 2) suppress them, 3) try to ignore or avoid them. We compartmentalize them and go on doing our thing as if they don’t exist. Or if we can’t ignore them then we collapse for a while until they pass.
Basically, we can’t function with them as part of our experienced reality.
I think that one thing Vortexdive Crucible might do is that it helps you to not freeze when one of those emotions arises. It probably can help with much more than that, but this is already major.
So that fear or anger shows up on the scene, and you’re able to recognize it as one part of your experience and not freak out or get paralyzed. After that, how you “use” it is up to you. But my point is that if you were frozen or overwhelmed or completely blindsided, you wouldn’t be able to use it for anything at all.
Anyway. We’ll see.
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When you are running a custom with that module currently, are you talking out of experience here ?
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I’m not really sure, to be honest. I was asking myself the same question as I typed all that.
It’s always more challenging for me to describe experiences than to describe ideas.
Other than my experience (or lack of it), have you gotten any more clarity on this stuff?
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nope, but I am dying to try this module.
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Wow. That’s quite an interesting question.
My gut says yes, but I don’t have the personal experience of it.
But I think if you’re looking to have sex from a raw, genuine, authentic place, Vortexdive Crucible will help with that. What are your thoughts, @friday?
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Gawdaaamn, I personally do!! I had an explosion of ideas just thinking of it with SM, let alone a Primal Seduction custom.
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Could you pls share them? 
Also, have you ever tried Vortexdive?
No, I haven’t but I’ve been thinking about the module more and more in the past two weeks. I previously had the opinion that I didn’t care for it because “in what way would I want to utilize negative emotions” was my previous attitude when I first saw the module.
Over time though, other impressions have started coming to me, like the fact that this module would be incredible in a Renaissance Man custom (artistic/creative in other words). I also realized that, wait a minute, I utilize all of my emotions all of the time in most things I do, if I’m being conscious so…
Let’s say Sex Mastery was being utilized in order to tackle performance anxiety.
Sex Mastery Core
Vortex Crucible
Through The Forge module you have experienced situations that tested you, and through modules such as ARES and subliminals like Dragon Reborn you have experienced the profound healing that can occur through our subliminals. Now, with Vortexdive Crucible, you will be diving deep into your negative emotions and finding ways to use them. While many of our healing modules and subliminals help you master and use your negative emotions, Vortexdive Crucible ignores healing completely and instead focuses fully on taking you on an alchemical journey of engrossing yourself in your very own negative emotions and the immense power and potential they hold, mastering them and their power, and using them directly in productive ways – with absolutely no healing. Once you dive into the vortex, there is no option but to forge the power into something truly incredible.
Just about every problem is mental and performance anxiety is no exception. It’s also emotional, however. That tension, chest constriction, shallow, quick breaths… That’s emotional turmoil. So, given the description of Vortex Crucible I would hold the desire that it would lead me to the source of that anxiety (and any other sexual issues coming between me and whatever goal/objective) so I could examine it, accept it without qualms and then use the new perspective gained from seeing the fear/nervousness/worthlessness for all it is - which is usually nothing at the end of the day - and building from there. That’s one example.
Another would be…
Let’s say we have a man that has qualms against seduction. Not being seduced so much as seducing. He has fears that seducing women makes him a guy that uses whatever he possesses to get what he wants from women and that makes him scum, manipulative, pathetic, etc etc…
This guy would benefit from Vortex Crucible in the sense that in my theory I could see the addition of it into his stack getting him comfortable with his uncomfortableness. Helping him to face the demons rather than feeling like there’s something wrong with him, that he needs to be different. He may choose to be different, but it’s not because he feels his desire for women (or to be a cutthroat business man, a bully on the basketball court, etc etc) is wrong.
Vortex Crucible is all about transmutation, at least in part - imo. I have no idea, of course.
So with it in a Sex Mastery (or Primal Seduction 
) custom, I would not ask myself what could it do, but what wouldn’t it do as much. And add cores around it.
I’ve been eyeing the module for a couple weeks considering it for my future Renaissance Man custom but I’ll definitely be expanding my sense of options with it now
Edit: just for the simple reality of sexual frustration or rejection from a woman, this module - in theory - has huge potential. Pain into gain boi
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Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a detailed post <3 Helped a lot
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I am considering bulding this custom 
TRIBULUS
- Sex Mastery
- Premature Ejaculation
- ASPS: Endocrine System
- Harmonic Singularity
- Vortexdive Crucible
- Soul Connection
- Inner Gasoline
- Everpresent
- Foundation
- Unlimiter
- Joie the Vivre
- Omnidimensional
- Health Codex
- Mosaic
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If it’s not too personal, what’s Eye of the Storm addressing?
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Wow, great that you ask as that is one of the modules I was considering dropping 
The custom shall be focused on getting rid of PE.
Eye of the Storm is about habit forming, and wrong masturbation habits is likely one of the reason why I developed that issue in the first place. However, 6 months on Diamond pretty much cleared that up (e.g. haven‘t watched porn since then), so I am not sure how much use it is.
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That is awesome.
The modules all make sense for that. And yes, Eye of the Storm seems not to be so crucial.
I like the inclusion of Unlimiter and Omnidimensional.
Not sure if SPS: Reproductive System would help. That’s another possible.
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It strikes me that an ideal way to approach this journey of ejaculation extension (it’s probably better to phrase it as a positive goal than a negative one) is to realize that you have absolutely nothing to lose in this journey.
However it goes and whatever stages you pass through, the journey itself will be very enjoyable.
I was thinking that it makes sense to include modules that strengthen this attitude in you.
Everpresent will help with this, I think.
Maybe a module like Joie de Vivre could be cool.
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I like your thinking.
Joie the Vivre sounds good though I have also considered adding it to my future STUDYING custom (Limitless Executive / Mind‘s Eye), and I try to avoid duplicates. But actually it might be more powerful in this custom…
So you would drop Eye of the storm and add Joie the Vivre instead? If you have any more suggestions (both to add or to drop) keep them coming They are greatly appreciated.
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JOIE VIVRE definitely gives you a lot of happy emotions, so it helps you motivate and manage your emotions!
It seems pretty personal.
GLM focuses on developing “power, strength, ambition, character, discipline, dominance” vis-à-vis oneself and vis-à-vis others.
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How inspired do you feel at the thought of expressing those qualities?
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How naturally do they fit with how you feel yourself growing and developing?
You know, when I think of something like PE, I actually think that a program like Khan makes sense. But Khan does so much more than this that it might be like using a jet plane to fly across town.
So a module like I AM might do the trick. (Pretty involved, though.) But am I remembering correctly when I think that you may have already run Khan?
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