Haha.
I’ve read Robert Greene’s books multiple times, especially The Art of Seduction.
He’s also not the end all be all voice of Power and Seduction. 
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@Rapsta @Leandros
Yes they are the same in a way
IMO power is in more CONROL like and victims don’t necessarily are willing to do what you want(but sometimes they are, so there is some seduction in laws of power) and seduction is the complete form of making people do anything for you WILLINGLY, it is a DEEP and gradual process and two-edged sword, you create the risk of getting seduced by dancing in seduction game.
@Skadoosh
Thank you for your comment, I read both
Honestly I wanna maintain a balance between seduction and power in my customs, yes, that is my intention.
He’s not wrong, it’s just that in your thread title you didn’t give enough context.
You were looking for Robert Greene’s definition/model.
Without the context, most people would assume Seduction is just the sexual stuff.
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When you run Primal seduction or Wanted, does not the behavior of other men changes towards you?
Seduction is sexual. Seduction doesn’t exist without sexuality.
Unless we are changing the definition of seduce/seduction then I don’t know where this conversation is going.
Of course it does, because WANTED isn’t a seduction subliminal, it’s a status/aura subliminal with physical shifting. And Primal Seduction has a lot of scripting for masculine frame inside.
Well yes, but when most people hear the word “seduction” they think of Libertine, Primal Seduction, having sex, flirting, etc.
In Robert Greene’s definition he mentions that it doesn’t just apply to that realm and that there’s such thing as social seduction, political seduction, and marketing seduction, etc.
Lol I haven’t read either of them and I use Power Can Corrupt. I should probably read the 48 Laws of Power.
I’m also a natural coquette before Wanted ZP who’s run it for 6 months and became full coquette.
Coquette is one of the archetypes that he mentions in The Art of Seduction. I’ve only seen a couple interviews of his out of curiosity.
Change how?
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Interesting. I wonder if Saint and Fire could build a subliminal using the same framework on Power Can Corrupt but with The Art of Seduction in mind.
A proper subliminal tailored for all forms of seduction. You’d become unstoppable alongside Power Can Corrupt.
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What one call seduction for a woman, another can call persuasion. Sales and seduction are really closely related.
You need the same skills basically for sales as you do for seduction… Influencing the other person’s emotion. And yes some law of power probably needs to be respected to achieve that.
Seduction is an art of persuation step by step, a dance if you will, following the girl’s emotion to escalate to… Where you want. Sales is basically the same… You need the client to sign the paper.
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I agree 
But the question wasn’t framed Persuasion vs Seduction.
Power and Seduction are not the same, or even remotely similar.
Persuasion / Status / Seduction / Sales are tools of Power.
Based on description of Temptation module:
Based around becoming so attractive that you easily tempt the people around you, the Tempter is not simply about becoming attractive energetically, mentally and physically – it is also about taking the right actions at the right time automatically. On Tempter, you can expect a coquettish behavior to emerge that will pique others’ interests easily. Furthermore, you will feel a new sense of mysteriousness emerging around you.
Being that attractive in general is like a superpower/halo effect that enhances everything you do in arguably all areas of your life. Based on the description, I can’t see why it wouldn’t work on masses. If you were giving say a speech in front of 200 people, they’d probably be tempted by you and find you attractive, making you more persuasive? Maybe lol
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Such a good module.
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Sure seems like it, also stacks well with Entranced module apparently:
Combine Entranced with the Temptation module for an incredible combination – while they are being irresistibly drawn to you, they do not even notice the hypnotizing effect your very existence has on them.
Imagine hypnotizing entire rooms with your attractiveness lol.
I noticed that PCC has some enchanting/charismatic effect on people similar to that as if you’re seducing/persuading them or something. I guess it helps you cultivate social power like that
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I have both of those modules in the Playboy custom I mapped out.
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Power Can Seduce
EDIT: I just realized you meant framework and not using Power to Seduce.
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Thank you
That 
, if you can 100% persuade anyone. Your power will increase greatly. Unfortunately (or fortunatly), persuasion does not work like that which means you usually combinr other ways to get your power.
Exactly, seduction is just a part of persuation skill. If you focus on the sexual part its seduction, if not its persuation.
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Nope
Seduction is making the person obsessed with YOU, as a consequence everything you ask he/she’ll do
Persuasion is on a specific action
Power is seducing itself
If someone sees a powerful person he/she is seduced to serve him/her.
Persuasion is more like stark thing, power is another realm
But one should be formless, not all are enchanted by you SUPERIOR charisma.
Why ask a fucking question if all you’re going to do is say “nope, you’re wrong” ???
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