- nofap improves my results
- nofap has no impact on my results
- nofap reduces my results
- porn is the problem not masturbation
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The porn is the problem option is a bit too broad.
Masturbation in moderation is probably fine. Just don’t do it too much.
Also it skews the poll results
Why? (Never delved into it)My understanding is that there is no real harm unless is an addiction.
my understanding is that masturbation is 100% healthy and porn is 100% bad.
but then a lot of people believe in semen retention so its hard to decide what to do.
but i think scientifically the only consensus is that porn is bad; everything else is just anecdotal.
one masturbates who can’t find a woman to have a sex with = omega
Here are my Realisations after 30 Days without masturbation and porn.
There are even more. But these are things right out of my head.
There are some things at work you can’t reall explain. Try it out for yourself
There are so many levels and nuances and truths to this.
Find what works for you
The thing we can consent on is porn is a killer. Any addiction is bad.
Everything else is up to the individual
Any unconscious habits or habits born out of unconscious(or unacknowledged or unaddressed) desires/feelings are going to be obstacles in the way of most every title SubClub offers. If nofap helps you stabilize and separate from an unconscious habit that was eating up your energy/time then it would improve your subliminal results.
having sex with women definitely increases results in my opinion lol
I’d say it improves results. I feel more confident and energetic doing NoFap.
On the flip side, I get more urge to PMO when reconciliation from a subliminal kicks in. It’s probably a form of self-sabotage and it’s something I need to overcome.
Brother Luther speaks the truth !
the secret to my high flow factor
one loop a week
imagine going out sleeping with a woman every time after you listen to your subliminal
if you aren’t there yet, define what you consider a win and make it smaller
instead of penetrative
a make out
a kiss
eye contact
a strangers smile
your subconscious will quickly learn to associate the subliminal with your wins
one loop a week so you have enough time to take action. this is the secret
Just as a note, semen retention doesn’t necessarely mean no masturbation or no sex, at least from the taoist tradition point of view.
It means not wasting jing energy (through ejaculation or other means), mainly semen for men, menstruation for women
In fact dispersion of jing happens with any kind of thoughts too, particularly sexual ones.
Even without the involvement of your friend down there… But we are getting into monk stuff here lol
For the layman they just gave generic guidelines based on age
Of course there was no high-speed porn back then lol, bombarding your mind with highly visual stimuli, which constantly activate the reward system and in the long run de-synthesize it… Not a great idea
Subject matter aside, many wise nuggets here from @Friday. This is what happens when people listen to the recommendations. We always said that less can be more, as it gives the subs time to breathe. We also said to take action, even if it was the smallest thing, as results will grow over time. We’ve also said to avoid playing lawyer games with results, the whole “I don’t think it was the sub” spiel you see a lot.
I concur with that. After I lowered my time to just 3 minutes and increased my rest day in between from one to two days I see more changes than before.