Because you mentioned astrology, if you wouldn’t mind, do you think that subs can override astrology?
Again, if this question violates the policy, I will delete it. But, this question has been lingering on my mind.
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Brother, if you can figure this out, let me know. To be quite honest, I don’t quite know what exactly “astrology” is other than some kind of expression of universal connectivity, and being even more honest, it scares the shit out of me.
Like many entrepreneurs, I’m a man that has pride in my freedom to choose whatever destiny I want, and to think that one has much less control than they think is something I’m choosing to simply ignore until I am enlightened enough to even consider the idea.
What I do know is this – every sub I’ve used, and I use the same versions (for the most part) that you all do, I get the expected results. It may not enter into my life the same way as I thought, but results nonetheless. I thought RoS for me would be this thrilling ride, but I began to realize so many things about myself that at times, was extremely hard to face. I found the strong humanitarian side that I had when I was very young resurging, but I had hidden that side away due to a lot of traumatic life experiences, and now that it’s re-emerging, there are moments where I think to myself: “It would’ve been easier if you simply remained in that material mindset.”
So yeah, that is not a question I am 100% qualified to answer. I can only note that subliminal audio does work and does help you generate incredible results when used properly.
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Same as me, i like exploring to find the underlying patterns and principles they share and understand the energies they work with.
@WinglissStark
I discussed a similar topic with someone who did astrology for work from indian culture and he said that al tho we can improve our lives, we still have to go though obstacles and challenges according to our natal chart. We can improve our money situation but we wont truly be big time wealthy or famous if its not in our astrological makeup.
I think this makes a lot of sense.
As for me i been screwed by Saturn tough lessons, limitations, takes a long while to set a foundation for further stages of life, and no matter what i did even hardcore rituals could not change that, the wisest choice is to swim with the current and not against it
And i do strongly think according to our natal chart we move through different phases and interests for me i had early initiations into spirituality, that wasnt my conscious decision but everything after being pushed off from that cliff took a step back for years, so we cant consciously choose which area we want to work on if its not the right time for it imo or results will be minor.
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The stars and planets have zero influence over my life. Especially considering the majority of stars we see aren’t even around anymore.
If there’s any correlation between where stars and planets happened to be at the moment I was born, it’s just that. Correlation. Not causation.
Maybe there’s something “deeper” that affects all of it.
I had a chart done once, and all of the “hits” are easily explained as being Barnum statements.
That’s my opinion anyway
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And there you have it. You have individuals who do find some kind of value in it who get results, you have others who find no value whatsoever in it and still gets results. And what this indicates to me is exactly what I was saying: subliminal audio, when used properly with action taking will help you generate results.
Whether there is a “deeper substratum” to all this is somewhat irrelevant to us at this point, since we cannot comprehend nor understand it, and thus cannot incorporate such ideas into subliminal audio – well, at least not at Subliminal Club. For me, I’m just an intense knowledge seeker, like a Jeopardy contestant. Whatever you guys post, I tend to look at simply because I enjoy hearing about other people’s life experiences.
But as for how we create titles: we focus on what’s practical, simple and easy to understand because we know that we can definitively prove a measurable effect from our titles. So, I would advise focusing on the practical – taking action toward your goals.
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This. I tend to believe in this and feel very powerless because of this.
Btw @Akephalos, did you use any subliminal during that time, and how did it affect you?
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Sometimes, it feels that lack of taking action is also becuase of astrology, which prompted me to ponder about the question in the first place.
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I only discovered in late 22 but as i said it makes most sense to move with the current, for me this period of saturn limitation which im still in especially now in retrograde and neptune, pluto as well being retrograde, im using it to set strong foundation, heal and transform, using subs that correspond to that like dragon reborn, khan st1 etc…
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There you have the problem.
If you believe in determinism, your life would basically be over already, because you’d be a powerless marionette.
If you believe in absolute free-will, you’d have far more freedom in your daily life than you likely have right now.
I find it likely that most of us are somewhere on a scale in-between these two absolute concepts, and where we are is determined by how much workable information is available to us as consciousness that “reads” and interprets information. The more you know, the more you can choose. Not just plain information, but information you can act on and truly believe in.
There are already enough disempowering beliefs that society instills in us to make us useful robots for the privileged few; don’t let astrology disempower you further.
Rather treat astrology as another means towards getting to know yourself better.
Your chart shows you your potentials and tendencies, along with overarching “themes” to your life. Treat them as guidance to what will likely come easily to you and what will not, and decide which battle you want to engage in. Some people enjoy swimming against the river. There is a challenge in it. Maybe there is even some higher force that enjoys watching us try to beat the odds. But you should never engage in fatalism or absolute determinism, because that will simply end your story, and where is the fun in that?
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I’ve been getting back into human design while taking everything with a grain of salt, but that stuff scares me more than astrology lol.
I’m a third line which supposedly amounts to a lot of trial and error and doing things wrong well into my 30s, then using that collective information to build a life that makes sense knowing exactly what I don’t want or what doesn’t work for me. Also gently advising others based on my experiences.
Admittedly that sounds really generic. But I can honestly say that’s my life in a nutshell. Experience all the stuff that doesn’t work, seemingly against my will, to find what does.
If you truly are a 3/5…, a fifth line
The Heretic energy of the 5th line often creates a dynamic where people project their expectations onto the individual. This can result in the 3/5 being seen as a problem solver, or a beacon of hope. As a result, they often find themselves in situations where they are expected to deliver solutions or save the day.
That’s kinda wild lol. Given the individuals passing in and out of this forum and how much trouble they’ve caused you
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Wow, this is impressive.
So, instead of attributing your lack of taking action to logical, practical, and proven things such as:
Lack of motivation, fear of failure, fear of success, lack of confidence, overwhelm, lack of knowledge, indecision, procrastination, lack of resources, physical fatigue, mental fatigue, health issues, lack of support, negative self-talk, lack of clarity, low self-esteem, poor mental health, low self-worth, lack of focus, low energy levels, distractions, addiction, stress, comfort zone, lack of discipline, previous failures, lack of interest, lack of immediate reward, poor time management, unclear priorities, lack of skills, fear of judgement, dependence on others, lack of purpose, cultural or societal expectations, financial concerns, negative environment, emotional baggage, lack of accountability, lack of role models, poor timing, self-sabotage, fear of the unknown, comfort in routine, lack of passion, cognitive dissonance, fear of commitment, imposter syndrome, over analysis, ingrained habits, lack of vision, etc.
You instead attribute it to the stars and alignments in the sky?
Now, I’m an open-minded person. Maybe you’re right, and it is because of astrology. I would love to know if that was the case.
The way I would figure that out, is by ruling out all of the other proven factors that you can change. If you take accountability and do all of that work, but still don’t feel like taking action… then yeah, of course it makes sense to say it’s the astrology.
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I’m not disagreeing with your astrology belief, or telling you to drop it.
I’m inviting you to prove it to yourself. You’re definitely not powerless in that, are you? Lol
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I will share my experience on this topic and how i
came to current belief , since you enjoy reading variety of experiences.
When i was younger i didnt want to believe in any sort of limitations, ambitous but arrogant, refusing the wisdom of the ages of our ancestors.
The more overwhelming challenges and obstacles made me realize i need a wiser approach to life because nothing was working.
I realized from personality traits to events and themes in my life very much corresponded to my astrological make up and refusing it at that point felt silly, i can’t change some core parts of personality as that wouldn’t be me.
Reading about other cultures most had their astrological systems and working with its energies because they could see the interconnected patterns how it influences big society level movements as well as individuals.
Romans would do a ritual honoring a specific planet or deity associated with it for example Jupiter for business growth and success when starting a venture.
Greeks sang hymns to planets and deities in specific planatery timings, many cultures had their methods, Arabic mystical schools have extremely complex talisman designs to tap into planatery energies. Indians tracked the date of birth to the minute and second to be able to accurately predict ones destiny.
“As above so below” the old hermetic axiom of wisdom,the macrocosm reflects into the microcosm of our lives.
This matrix game we are in has its mechanics/systems in place and it’s easier and wiser to work in ones advantage with the systems than get screwed by them.
I think such topics have been intentionally dumbed down to hide it in plain sight from masses, because when you look at some shallow horoscope bs or hippie preaching it u dont take it seriously and think its all bs.
But i have known people with phd from most prestigious universities, very high academia backround, highly intellegent and successful not only believe but actively practice it in their lives.
People tend to unconsciously associate the correct archetypes to its rulling planet even without knowing anything about astrology, how often people associate beauty, love, feminine to Venus, fashion industry is full of correspondences to Venus.
Some elites, big corpo logos lots of planatery correspondences nothing by accident.
I have seen and know people try to weponize planatery energies and it can turn very nasty and with big consequences. Everyone starts believing when shit gets real and a punch to the face lands.
Some use it for love, some for business, status, spirituality … Etc all the usuall human cravings
It is useful to counteract to some extent the pitfalls and shortcomings in our chart and maximise our potential with the cards we were given by working with this framework.
My personal experience with Venus energies were intensely pleasurable and beautiful.
I dont work much now with this framework but i intend to, i want to see how much i can push my astrological potential.
Still got the old gamer rpg stategicial min/ max mindset and want to see the crazy extents i can stack up and push some things especially in combination and correspondence with subliminals.
Full khan + khan black + planatery energies of charm, status, attraction i want to know and experience how crazy that’s gonna get.
Just like as a kid i wanted to stack items and build in a game to see the effects.
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Let me take one if these, for example, Fear of Failure. How do I get rid of it?
I have been trying at it for months but seem to make no progress. I can give myself all the logical reasons as to why it doesn’t matter but it doesn’t do anything.
Your answer will help me either evaluate my mistake or present my argument.
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Astrology is the cosmic GPS that guides us, but it’s up to us to take the wheel and steer our lives towards our dreams! It’s time to set sail and unlock the full potential of your destiny. Embrace the stars, but don’t let them control you – take charge and create the future you’ve always wanted. Seize the day, my friendS, and let the stars be your inspiration, not your limitation!
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Somehow I think the universe would disagree if it cared
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What if I told you the universe both cares and doesn’t—a constant paradox? How often do you feel happy one moment and unhappy the next, caught in a state of ambivalence? Life unfolds regardless of your preferences; just relax and go with the flow.
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Okay everyone, let’s stop with the astrology convo and move back on topic.
Don’t want this to turn into an astrology thread.
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By failing, failing some more, and then fail again.
Fail as fast as you can. Each failure is a lesson. Through these lessons, failure will no longer be an option.
Even then you will have to feel the fear and do it anyway. Every time you fail at something, if you learn from it, you will only get better.
Don’t go for your magnum opus on your first go. Fail in many tiny steps first. The build off of those failures.
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What @KingofClubz and @Pyro said is good advice.
With regards to astrology, fatalism is not the right mindset to have when working with it. Astrology can help you to get an idea of your core tendencies, strengths and weaknesses as you received them at the time of birth. It can also give you a feel for how the elements of your core being interact and where the major pain points are (for example, squares or quincunx/inconjuncts, or more positive alignments).
But the whole idea of living in these meat suits is to learn to how surpass your limitations, or work with them, rather than letting them define you. An example from my path is that I have learned that using the methods the world presents to us as options, I am not good at marketing or advertising, creating publicity in your standard ways. Part of this goes back to my astrological makeup and my upbringing.
Does that mean that I should give up on the idea of running my own business because I can’t market the things I create on my own? Far from it. What it means is that I need to push myself to get better at these things, or leverage the help of others to do what I cannot do myself. Which means if I make it as a podcaster or similar, it will be because someone else took care of things which they are better at by default. By the same token I am better at inspiring people and leading people towards their own goals, being what would nowadays be called a life coach in some ways. So I can help inspire the guy that does the marketing side of things to take the time to focus on investing in their future, etc.
It’s about joining forces with the right people or techniques to accomplish your goal. If astrology helps you to realize that you really suck at something, don’t let that stop you. There are more than 2.5 x 10^25 ways to skin a cat.
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