PLEASE READ: Fire vs. Saint Round 3 [The Battle is ON]

[Sub.Zero]

@SaintSovereign

I agree that people get too stuck on words and terms as if they are concrete, though I still see the value in western methods of inner work – to an extent. But, I also maintain that subliminal audio is less about psychology and more about the mechanism of language itself and the processing of language, as well as logic and reason (as I’ve stated before).

I find it extremely powerful to map out and corner resurfacing false beliefs, self-illusions, misperceptions, and products of my own self-deception using the power of my rational mind (and logic), where they cannot lie their way out of reconciliation. That’s the most useful approach I’ve found with the new recon tech so far. Naturally, the ability to deal with full-blown recon relatively easily and quickly (which has been greatly enhanced with the new recon tech) helps a lot with that.

However, debunking those “lies” seems to transform me on the deeper levels in a way slower way than on the “most immediate levels”. It seems that the “visceral level” is not promptly accessible to the “rational mind” and “resistant” to its guide to some degree, only slowly trying to “catch up with it”. It seems to be beyond the reach of the words, so to speak, and what reaches it is just the ripple effect of the changes on the “more rational levels”.

For that reason, I 'm glad that @emperor_obewan mentioned other ways of working with our mind and, especially, Focus 10. I would gladly try Focus 10. Is it okay to combine it with ZP?

[Risky]

It does not, only for customs. Unless it’s under a different name, I don’t see it.

[emperor_obewan]

The mention of Focus 10 on the Black journal entry was only used as an example of a state where the mind is able to disconnect from external sensory phenomena (and ultimately after that from all the typical internal dialogue). Wasn’t specifically suggesting anyone try or not try it, was just pointing out that its easier to connect with the body-universe and the “subconscious” when the other distractions are shut off. You can probably find a number of different techniques to reach the same state, but I wouldn’t expect those types of tech would negatively impact subs, as long as you’re not overlaying the audios on one another and doing them separately. But Saint will know more.

[Sub.Zero]

@emperor_obewan

its easier to connect with the body-universe and the “subconscious” when the other distractions are shut off

I’m going to try it to explore deeper levels in order to map out more “obstructive subconscious structures” [in order to deal with (reconcile) them “rationally” later on] and to strengthen the ripple effect of changes that occur on more rational levels. It’s just a theory for now, though, but it seems quite promising. Thanks.

@emperor_obewan

You can probably find a number of different techniques to reach the same state

Yes, but Focus 10 seems to be the easiest method I’ve come across for doing so. I’m not formally trained in meditation, although I suppose most basic relaxation techniques could also be helpful.

On top of that, I’m moving to QL Stage 3 tomorrow, so I have a feeling it’s going to be really interesting.

[Lion]

@Risky

Any chance we get this badboy for embedded majors?

Not added yet but might be added tomorrow:

@SaintSovereign

@Pyro

Has this been added yet? I cannot seem to find it in the drop down menu.

Apologies, will get this fixed tomorrow.

[Niles]

Would you say Focus 10 is similar to hemisynch, or at least the objectives of it

[Venus]

@SaintSovereign

“Perhaps you should consider releasing recon in [x] manner,”

X= inquisitive? Some kind of suggestion about taking action? Dynamic?

[Golgo13]

Do we know if the announcement will be old titles or new?

[unusualfellow]

We know nothing other than

[TheGreenMan]

Well…

@SaintSovereign

Annnnd, in the finale of Fire vs. Saint we may see the new Hero title pitted against @Fire’s masterpiece.

[unusualfellow]

Okayyy I didn’t see Hero…
And maybe Khan Black

[KingofClubz]

Chimney Sweeper

[unusualfellow]

Aka Beyond limitless?

[KingofClubz]

Yup, and Ascension Chamber. Those are my predictions

[HeroicDragon]

Yeah I know my stack is getting demolished… and I’ve made peace with that, change is a constant at this point, in a good way.

[Risky]

Essence could also be the foundational title?

[TheGreenMan]

It looks more like a module pack.

[Risky]

Okay, I’m getting a Deja vu

[Fire]

Q Module Pack #19 - ESSENCE

[MP Essence] Module Pack 19 is here, and it’s a big one. A unique module pack that @SaintSovereign was the lead on, through collaboration we’ve come up with a new way to even further customize your custom titles - a perfect way to end the Fire VS Saint season. Ever made a custom and thought - “hmm, I love this custom, but I sure would love to have a bit more of X title in it”? And that is exactly what Essence is - not quite a module, not quite a core, but something in-between. Not as big as…

Q Module Pack #20 - Executive

[MP Executive] We’re not done yet though. The second module pack drop today, modules refined from the scripting of Emperor: Executive - focused on helping you develop and grow your productivity, discipline, focus and executive functioning. Now you’ll be able to add all these features to your customs, opening up a whole new world of customization of your unique personal title.

And we are live.

[Trader]

Focus 10 IS one of the hemi-sync titles. From The Monroe Institute’s “Gateway Voyage” program I think.