I came across a fascinating video about “UpSight Vision,” and it made me curious—could we implement something similar with the New Mind’s Eye? 
Releasing during No Nut November is a no no.
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I don’t agree with this, and I think that an updated dedicated corporate sub is crucial for several reasons:
A majority of current customers probably have a corporate job, and most of them will probably not want to pursue entrepreneurship. There is a dedicated sub for music producers which I assume is a much smaller audience than people having a corporate job, so I don’t think that a sub for people with a corporate job is too narrow.
A lot of people probably have a skillset and personality that allow them to have a much bigger positive impact on society within an organization than by trying to create a company - especially since +90 % of new companies fail within 10 years.
Even if a person you wants to pursue entrepreneurship, most lasting companies are created by people who have worked in a high-level position within a large established organization and found a new and better way to do part of what their former employer is doing. This is a much more likely avenue to entrepreneurial success than just getting a good idea and creating Airbnb or Uber without much prior industry knowledge. A sub that can bring people to a high level in an organization before deciding on whether to pursue entrepreneurship therefore makes sense.
Even with conscious guidance I don’t think Genesis: Mogul: is optimal for corporate advancement to the top. I haven’t read the script, so I’m of course I’m guessing here, but my impression is that the Genesis line is created for people who what to discover their path or purpose which I assume would mean that you are constantly questioning a lot of things. I don’t think that is a very good attribute for somebody who wants to rise fast within an organization where a high level of certainty is required. Furthermore, Genesis:Mogul contains a lot of other scripting (e.g. relating to debt management and financial markets). Genesis: Mogul is probably a fantastic sub, but I don’t think that the existence of Genesis: Mogul should exclude a dedicated corporate sub from being produced.
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Is Alchemist: Singularity the advanced energy cultivation sub that somebody referred “Khan Black 2” or “Khan Black follow-up”?
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@Fire you’ve probably thought of this already, but just in case. For Alchemist: Singularity
It would be great if there was a way to protect vital energy/chi from those who knowingly or unknowingly try to siphon it off.
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I agree with what @mvargo is saying @Sub.Zero. As someone who’s used Genesis Mogul since it’s release and has been one of the people who has gotten the most results out of it in the forum the sub is great but isn’t the perfect corporate subliminal. It is the best one that SC has created but isn’t what it could be.
There’s a lot of entrepreneurial scripting that’s in it which is great when you want to do a corporate job and a side business which eventually becomes your main thing but if all you care about is your career/corporate job Genesis Mogul won’t be that perfect solution. This is coming from someone who got his dream job from it, was able to flight first class by using it and much more which I never talk about on here.
I’ve worked and spoken to countless high level employees and executives and there’s certain qualities that entrepreneurs won’t have that they do which is why a corporate sub would be ideal aka what I suggested months ago in the roadmap: Specter ZP: Achieve Career Sucess | Subliminal Club
On the topic of conscious guidance, it can only do so much. That’s like saying you can run Paragon and get results to look like a model via conscious guidance. You can but you will never get the same amount of results on it for that goal as you would with something like Wanted Black.
Having a sub like Specter ZP would be a massive milestone for SC as I’m sure there’s a huge percentage of people here who have a corporate job and want to get higher corporate ladder and aren’t interested in a business.
But what do I know, I’m just a guy who if he shared his results these past few months would be bombarded with attention on the forum which I don’t want😆
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I find this very interesting,wonder what fire and saint think
Scientists dont know what 98% of our dna does or is for (or maybe they or the elite know but wont tell us)
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I know the subclub tagline is Become Legendary and I’m not against that. But sometimes I do wonder if in pursuit of more grandiose things it gets harder to properly integrate them and at which point is it really necessary?
Like let’s say you’re pushing for a 10% increase in happiness but you have to grind for several years. But there’s an alternate path that’s smoother, supportive, but you won’t get that 10%. At what point is that 10% worth it? Is it even perceptible? I guess it’s up to the individual.
Enhancing quality of life and understanding what really provides you with satisfaction and happiness seems like a really important thing. But how many people really know what that is? How often do we go chasing the wrong things and not realize it until later?
I guess piggybacking off this thing with Genesis mogul I’d agree that a corporate skill set and general job satisfaction sub couldn’t hurt. Are you going to be a CEO or pioneer? No, but that’s fine not everyone has to be.
Idk maybe I’m just projecting but I find it’s a fine line between self imposed limitations vs genuine desires that don’t fall within the scope of something bigger in life.
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Totally agree with this. I think a corporate/career orientation focus would make a lot of sense for the ascension line, literally ascending up the ladder.
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No, that one is locked away until further notice.
Not against it. Be aware that Ascended Mogul and Genesis titles are purposefully made for a wider audience, hence why there isn’t a sole corporate focus.
I don’t think it’s up to us to find out either.
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There would have to be a separate sub created for that.
However
On top of that, SC offers a really vast range of customization. However, as you can see on the forums, people are struggling with something as essential as determining their stack and sticking to it. That’s the main issue and not creating more and more scalpel-like titles. People fail at something as essential as self-assessment and reality check.
One needs to do self-assessment and reality check in order to find the missing links between their needs and the possibilities of satisfying them (opportunities) in their current circumstances. Moreover, finding kind of action, aligned with their intentional focus, that offers the least resistance by employing conscious guidance is vital. All of that is critical for making the most of ZP. The missing links should be targeted by the scripting and one needs to take relevant action in order to facilitate creating and strengthening those links.
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I think Limitless Executive is a good one for corporate settings, probably the updated version will be amazing.
Limitless Executive to just become a beast in your work and maybe add Emperor Will to Power to handle office politics.
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It’s not though. A general business/corporate title that encourages a thriving career and fulfills a need of an individual is not something I’d consider scalpel like considering a career of some sort is essential for getting by in life. A good career can very well be a missing link in someone’s life.
You can memorize directions or you can use GPS and offload that mental energy to focus on your driving. Conscious guidance is valuable but it shouldn’t be the go to solution.
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That would be Genesis: Mogul + relevant scripting, depending on your needs and circumstances. Of course, the customization could help even better.
Unfortunately, that leads many people to the fallacy that ZP makes things happen for you whilst it only opens you (your mind) up to possibilities within your circumstances and helps you unlock the required potentialities within you.
That’s the reason why I’ve mentioned adding “opportunist scripting” to ZP multiple times. Scripting that would help you spot opportunities and see possibilities within your circumstances, daily life, and that would encourage you to pounce on them with courage, focus, and determination.
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But you just had @Plutus state the relevant scripting you’re referencing here wasn’t enough through his own experience and time running Genesis:Mogul. That is incredibly valuable feedback and shouldn’t be hand waved away. I also don’t believe customs are a good answer to this for a variety of points. 1. Not everyone knows how to build customs properly for the unique needs of their own minds, 2. it costs a fair bit of money, 3. you’re still in the situation of adding a core like Genesis:Mogul most likely which leads us full circle to not having the needs met in a main title.
That’s kind of a stretch. And most people don’t want to dissect the intricacies of how ZP works just to get their results nor should they have to. I’d argue the more in depth you have to dig through your mind and consciously intervene on what should largely be a smooth subconscious process, the more you sabotage your trajectory of natural growth. I can know how to drive a car, but not fully have knowledge of all the moving parts being orchestrated together to allow it to operate. It doesn’t hinder me in any way and I still get to my destination.
I wouldn’t hang onto this as the be all end all of how ZP should work. It’s inherently limiting in my opinion. Saint and FIre are constantly innovating, we could very well have something completely different in the future. Pre-Q days the sheer amount of input you needed was almost 8hrs a day. Maybe in the near future concepts like conscious guidance will be seen as a similar crutch because the intricacies of how the subconscious processes and acts on instructions is still not fully known. Or maybe not.
I just don’t think it hurts to introduce topics of discussion here that facilitate new ideas or concepts to ponder. Constantly shutting them down because of how ZP subs are supposed to work or how they currently work leads to an echo chamber that quickly turns into dogma. I would like to avoid that.
I won’t comment on the points you made since it’s far away from the discussion the thread was created for.
Here you have it:
Here you have it, BTW:
I’m not against a sub like the one you want but I don’t agree with going scalpel-like whilst we have plenty stack options and the customization at our disposal.
Moreover, I definitely disagree with this:
as that was the starting point of the discussion, by the way.
Another thing is, it’s all about how we work with ZP and not how ZP works. ZP won’t make things happen for you. I think that’ obvious. So even having your perfect sub you need to do the work, guys.
It really depends on demand though.
The appetite for sex and money, subs seems very much unsatiable. Diversification and unexpected, new angles on these core themes feel like the natural way forward.
I agree on conscious guidance. Most titles are incredible flexible with a bit of training.
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True.
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Any information about upcoming events releases?
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