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#654

This is the issue I’ve been running into.

And this is something I’m reluctant to write about because I don’t have enough knowledge, there’s far too many doctrines with differing ideas to just choose one. With things like business / EoG, we can deconstruct the habits and patterns of those who have achieved a high level of success and spot the patterns to write about. With this topic, I am at a loss. The Taoists have differing ideas than the Buddhists, and they have differing ideas than in Hinduism. Then we get to the Abrahamic faiths, which takes a much, much different approach.

Right now, if we wrote Revelation of Body, it’d probably end up being some kind of performance enhancement title, which is best for Spartan, Emperor Fitness, etc.

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#655

Do Vipassana and you’ll understand all faiths as they relate to the body :rofl:

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#656

So true @Jouissance , this is my latest finding in my spiritual search, I can throw all my learnt spiritual knowledge away now, my body is my new god, the place I am finding it all!!

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#657

For paragon you can do some research into:
Testosterone
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG)
Free Testosterone
Luteinising Hormone
Oestradiol
Prolactin
Follicle Stimulating Hormone
Albumin

Also you could just combined all the a/sps modules

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#658

@SaintSovereign

awkwardly silent today, when is eog and this secret surprise dropping?

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#659

@SaintSovereign You mentioned that after receiving a massage/therapy, it felt like trauma trapped in your body was released. This could be a great starting point for Revelation of the Body.

As an INTJ, I know how easy it is to live more in the head and thoughts like many introverts rather than being grounded in the present. While emotions are intense, they’re often filtered through logic, or the inferior function takes over in less-than-ideal ways.

Revelation of the Body could take a small approach from Spartan to enhance body awareness and reflexes, helping users connect with their physical needs and emotional state. It could focus on being present in the now, feeling the body’s signals and releasing trapped trauma.

Given your sensitivity to energy, this title could help users tune into their own energy and that of others without needing to delve into spirituality. It could also focus on awareness of body language, emotional expression, and aura refinement, drawing on elements from Synergy: Inescapable Gaze and Synergy: Harmonic Conflux.

While Paragon is for healing, Spartan for strength & reflexes, and the X titles for skill development, Revelation of the Body could take a bit of each, offering a unique combination of body awareness, emotional release, energy sensitivity, as well as it’s own NSE spin to it. Maybe it could even draw elements from New Auric Experience which could buff auras generated by other subs which, to my knowledge, is only available through customs and is not present in any current title.

And with NSE the user will continue to grow and evolve in those aspects, It would be a great asset for any actor and performer which synergizes with Renaissance Man.

Edit: Secretly, i just want a title that focuses purely on the sensory outer world and inner sensing, unfiltered by logic and imagination. I know Primal and Daredevil but one is grounded in dominance, social skills and action and the other is on Social skills, story telling and adventures.

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#660

Revelation of body could allow us to connect to the consciousness of the body in some way.

#661

Feel the truth in your body, and you’ll see all faiths are reflections of the same light.

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#662

RoB could be less about healing the body and more about enjoying and understanding the body.

This could be a physical journey, learning to love your body, feel confident in it, move confidently in space with it, have a higher level awareness of the body, using the body to connect with the mind and using the body to de-stress, maintaining connection to your body even in times of stress,

& of course the ultimate for posture, relaxation, etc, but without the aesthetics of WB/LOTS.… just purely a module for perfect posture, alignment, relaxation, movement, balance, harmony in the body on the literal physical level, internal more than external. Let paragon and LoTS for healing disorders and promoting aesthetics… keep RoB for an inner re-alignment that results in outward expression of whole-ness.

an increased quality of relationship with the body has physical benefits, of course, with other sports. I could imagine that RoB would work well with Muay Thai Mastery X and those types of products because you literally start to unfold an understanding of the mechanisms of your entire body, not just related to the technique, but to the body (and the opponents body) directly. You understand “bodies” much better overall. You also, of course, understand your body so well that recovery and training techniques and nutrition just naturally reveal themselves to you - in a way that’s best for your body, not just specifically for something as narrow as a sport.

RoB could also be very good for emotional development. The relationship between mind and body is connected. We store trauma in the body. And in times of stress the safest place to return is the body. When we’re acutely panicking, it’s IN THE BODY that that panic occurs, and when we feel joy, we feel it in the body as well. RoB could help us link the physical/emotional on deeper levels than we ever thought possible.

RoB would OF COURSE be incredible for sexual development. Understanding your body at a deep level, having access to it, all the relaxation and connection-to-body scripting, understanding the body as a whole no matter who it applies to, understanding “bodies” in general, greater control and awareness and appreciation for all sensations… that certainly has a sexual application to it. And what sub doesn’t benefit from some Khan Black style sexual energy enhancement? :wink:

RoB for some could help become aware of aging. Which could be a huge benefit to wealth and motivation in general. When you know you’re going to die eventually, you get quite inspired to live. *

Non-spiritual disclaimer

(This is disconnected from the question what happens AFTER we die - that is a spiritual matter, which i’m avoiding completely in this post to emphasize how RoB doesn’t have to be connected to spirituality at all - but what all faiths have in common is a justification for why you should live the best life NOW that you possibly can, whether that’s reincarnation, hell, or something else.)*

And for any bodyworkers, massage therapists, etc., understanding “bodies” would allow people to become better physical healers, because they understand the bodies they’re healing better, the exact same way Revelation of Wealth helps you understand wealth GENERALLY and then inform your own opinion as a result. Perhaps there’s a level of emphasis of studying the human body, for those who are interested, quite like Sage Immortal is to help you study spirituality.

There could also be a huge level of gratitude for one’s health.

There’s a great quote,

Would you take 10 million dollars right now if I offered it to you?

Yes? Well… what if I told you that you can have 10 million dollars right now but it means you don’t get to wake up tomorrow?

So if you would choose waking up tomorrow over 10 million bucks, that means your life and your health are worth more than 10 million bucks, so wake up every day with a smile knowing you’re worth at least 10 million bucks

That level of gratitude and appreciation for the body itself could make its way into RoB.

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#663

Listen, this post of yours isinsightful but the scope is too broad and unfocused, and rehashes existing concepts. Attempting to tackle everything from posture to trauma with a single dose of body awareness…turns genuine healing into little more than a feel good illusion

Body awareness is about shifting attention from the mind to the body, releasing tension to “sink” into it like gravity, and reinforcing that awareness by giving yourself rich, consistent feedback to deepen the connection. Simple in concept, challenging in practice…When this is the focus you have more presence and clarity which is Thee Foundation for all other body related goals

@Jouissance

#664

Very interesting post. Would you mind posting to the roadmap?

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#665

Not to mention the body has its own mind and memory. Muscle memory, fingers typing and remebering passwords/codes at a better rate than the mind. As well as the heart which generates 60x more magnetic field energy compared to the brain

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#666

As a massage therapist that has actually seen this happen in person, I agree with this completely that this is a great starting point. A lot of emotional trauma could be worked through with something like this.

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#667

Working very hard to get everything done.

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#668

Listen, we’ve been waiting for weeks, we still can wait for a few more days. No one is going to die from waiting. Please take your time and get it right. Absolutely doesn’t matter if you release it today!

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#669

I need to washout until Sunday so I don’t mind waiting :rofl:

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#671

Was Dragon Red not suppose to take care of this

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#672

Yes in stage 2 i believe " ST2: DRAGON BLOOD The pure healing stage of Dragon Reborn: RED.
This is, again, comprehensive and in-depth healing on all levels – physical, mental, spiritual. "

The very discussion around RoB is what can it do without exclusively without being Paragon 2.0
And the suggestions are for it to incorporate small and exclusive elements from many unique titles as well as having it’s own identity. Then again accessing and healing stored, repressed physical trauma should not be gatekept by a heavy, and rebellious i might add, multi-stager such as such as DRED. It could be a it’s own thing and a great compliment to Paragon and KB.

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#673

I don’t think the Dragon is gatekeeping

But you need to go through it to get the benefit

#674

I agree that it’s a good starting point as well.

I can imagine that for @SaintSovereign and Fire designing a sub like RoB would be quite difficult, as the body is quite a contentious topic in different faiths, and the company strives to be neutral on matters like politics and spirituality/faith, making the subs equally beneficial for any faith.

There are some traditions which emphasize withdrawing from things of the world and “mortifying” the body. There are others which revel in it, glorifying sensuality and taking a more hedonist, “practical” view. And then there are those which acknowledge the body and its purification in order to go beyond the body and master it. Some Hindu/Tantric philosophies have an entire system of rebuilding the body and its muscles through pranayama with minimum food intake required, including the Ayurvedic traditions around kayakalpa (bodily rejuvenation/immortality) and nirahara samyama (a Hindu variation on breatharianism which explores the ability for the body to survive without food, or on minimal food, using various samyamas and prana manipulation techniques).

So there is quite a wide array of possibilities for anyone trying to understand the limitless capacities of the spirit with relation to the body available to look into. Ultimately the sub could not focus on any one specific tradition as this would go against the neutrality, but in the in-between regions and in wording there would be a lot of wiggle room to open peoples minds up to appreciating the depth of the body’s possibilities without steering them in a particular direction. It would just be tricky. I would imagine there would need to at least be some aspect of exploring how the body and spirit could interact. The whole Revelation series is about self exploration, guided by specific subject areas.

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