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[SaintSovereign]

@SubClubHouseMafia

Feel free to correct me if so, if not then what is unique about Primal Romance?

Seduction focuses on attraction and desire, while romance emphasizes emotional bonding and affection. Both will lead to physical intimacy, but the pathways and intentions are different.

With seduction, the goal is to ignite passion or gain someone’s attention in a way that appeals to their desires and is usually focused on short-term connections and is generally seen as a calculated approach to achieving this. Romance, however — is rooted in emotional intimacy and affection, creating a longer and deeper bond. The main aim of romance is to create and foster loving relationships (and of course, physical intimacy as the natural outflow of this.)

WB and Primal, etc. follows certain archetypes that many don’t align with very easily as it doesn’t fit their natural way of being. @Malkuth spoke of this once when running one of the Wanted titles.

Primal Romance is less focused on archetype or “style,” and more on skill and expression, like Primal Seduction. It’s for those who want to develop their ability to create deeply romantic moments in time, for the purposes of creating deep, deep emotional bonds and can be safely used in monogamous relationships, where the other titles have questionable use in that scenario.

Once again, the purpose of multiple titles that overlap yet are thematically different is to provide different personalities with the tool that best fits them. Not everyone wants to build a harem like in WB. Not everyone wants to be a Khan. Not everyone wants the intensity of Primal. Not everyone wants to just focus on seduction.

Some people seek that feeling of deep emotional richness with another, the feeling you get while quietly watching the stars on a beautiful night while holding the one you love. It’s a different experience from the oft-strategic concept of “seduction.”

[SaintSovereign]

@AlexanderGraves

On another note, how do you discern who wins this competition @SaintSovereign ?

Probably sales or popularity, but for me, that’s just data that we can use to further understand customer needs. This is the outflow of deep inner / spiritual development. Being detached from ideas like fame and popularity, we can look at things from a purely objective standpoint to maximize goals without the ego getting involved.

It is the unvarnished truth when I say that we do not care who “wins” as long as the customers are happy. This is an innovative creative exercise designed to push our boundaries.

[ksub]

@aaa

When i think about being 40, i just wanna cry. Like with that stage, life is over. All the youthful things… Its done… Over

Young buck, 40s is when the real fun starts and it’s not the mindless agitated fun that y’all have in your 20s and early 30s. Just make sure you have money and status.

[RockyHandsome]

@SaintSovereign

while romance emphasizes emotional bonding and affection

Nicely worded Saint i want to buy this product.

[SubClubHouseMafia]

@SaintSovereign

Seduction focuses on attraction and desire, while romance emphasizes emotional bonding and affection.

Do you think these two different objectives can co-exist in a single SC sub?

Until reading your reply, I was under the impression that romance would be a consequence of primal seduction with the reality bubble.

[RockyHandsome]

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Cant wait to stack Primal Romance with Stark.

[SaintSovereign]

@mvargo

Could Primal Romance replace Heartsong for someone who is looking to get into a relationship within the next few years, but is fine with ‘playing the dating game’ until the right girl comes along

Not sure about completely replacing, since Heartsong has much more manifestation scripting. But when you’re actually ready to find the one, stack them together and you’ll have no problem winning them over with ease. We’re talking about a soulmate style bond (Heartsong) that feels romantic in an otherworldly manner (Primal Romance).

It’ll feel like this: https://youtu.be/0eWUhXPhIaE

Then add in PN and bussanut. That’s like any woman’s dream for a partner. Soulmate, true romance, nailed to the bed nutbussin’.

Y’all welcome.

[Nemesis]

@mvargo

Could Primal Romance replace Heartsong for someone who is looking to get into a relationship within the next few years, but is fine with ‘playing the dating game’ until the right girl comes along

If anything I think PR and HS would synergize very well and compound results

[ksub]

Emperor Daddy and DR Gold should should go together like hand in a glove. For people who were looking for subs that promote gravitas and maturity, this could be the right combination. HoM is good for that but Emperor Daddy (if it is what I think it will be) combined with DR Gold could be next level. In a custom, throw in there some King’s Radiance, Synergy: The Golden One, Earthshaker: Authority and Synergy: The One Above All and you have something young people can’t possibly comprehend.
You can call that the Older Michael Jordan custom.

[Sub.Zero]

@SaintSovereign

That’s like any woman’s dream for a partner. Soulmate, true romance, nailed to the bed nutbussin’.

Perfect Lover.

[Lion]

@SaintSovereign

We’re talking about a soulmate style bond (Heartsong) that feels romantic in an otherworldly manner (Primal Nights).

I think here you mean Primal Romance and not Primal Nights.

[bujin]

@SaintSovereign

Emperor Daddy

So become this guy.

I won’t be running this anytime soon (I’m focusing on spirituality atm) but I’m really grateful you’re adding a title focusing on us older gentlemen. It’s something I’ll take a look at it at a later date.

I’m hoping this is more focused on someone who is already successful and helps to grow what you already have instead of the relentless focus on building something like original Emperor. So reduce/remove the push to grind and replace with some aspects of HOM like investing etc. I’ve done the grind thing and I’m past that, I’m already successful and I want to enjoy what I have, not waste the remaining years of my life grinding away.

Also, for us older guys, some enhanced focus on the endocrine system and restoring hormonal balance and libido - whatever is in Khan (last time I ran it was the first Q release incidentally) gave me an insane libido increase, maybe with some KB scripting to help transmute that energy to wherever needed. At my age (almost 52) I’m not interested in mindless fucking anymore, but still want a fulfilling sex life.

Go to say I’ve been more a Stark guy the last few years, but would give this a shot.

[AlexanderGraves]

@SaintSovereign

Probably sales or popularity, but for me, that’s just data that we can use to further understand customer needs. This is the outflow of deep inner / spiritual development. Being detached from ideas like fame and popularity, we can look at things from a purely objective standpoint to maximize goals without the ego getting involved.

Of course but it’s just funny. And I’m also curious what ppl are more interested in!

[Simon]

@bujin

I’m hoping this is more focused on someone who is already successful and helps to grow what you already have instead of the relentless focus on building something like original Emperor. So reduce/remove the push to grind and replace with some aspects of HOM like investing etc. I’ve done the grind thing and I’m past that, I’m already successful and I want to enjoy what I have, not waste the remaining years of my life grinding away.

Absolutely agree. Daddy’s got everything handled.

If we must borrow something from Genesis, it’d be the spirit of heroic adventure, not self-reflection about life purpose.

[bujin]

@Simon

it’d be the spirit of heroic adventure, not self-reflection about life purpose.

I’d agree with this.

I’d also add, maybe dial down the aggression and intimidation factor of Emperor, I would prefer it be more about growing and leveraging your networks than fighting your way to the top. Let others do the work for you to build on your success. So some charisma scripting would fit in nicely, but preferably without the undignified chattiness of Stark.

[Niles]

Also physical shifting in either of these would be a game changer. Especially a title geared at 40+ skin care, grooming, hair loss, physique would be amazing to not have to bring I. Another title just for that

[bujin]

So am I just describing HoM?

Edit: Just read the HoM description, I guess I am.

[Simon]

@SaintSovereign

Think of the gentleman in the high-end restaurant, with the nice suit, perfect hair, exquisite cologne. He has the business, the clothes, the cars, the respect. He walks with a powerful stride. He has a piercing gaze that’s both a bit intimidating and pleasantly disarming. He speaks slowly, and with deliberate intent. All the ladies keeping their eye on him because of his sheer presence and charisma, wondering if he’s single, and they’re all thinking “damn, daddy.”

Sean Connery, not the Godfather.

[Sebastian_Po]

I once heard that every man ultimate goal is to become a father/daddy….there are many layers in that saying….in a sense，yeah，father as a representative symbol of certain internal qualities is what we are fighting to be….I am in my early thirties ……still，I am really interested in the upcoming Emperor Daddy……it seems there is something calling me to explore…even though I am really happy with my stack…if it suits what deep inside…I am definitely gonna run it…. …the thing is…what it will be like ？a high class gentleman who navigate through the world with grace ？I need a little bit more information…what makes it so different than the OG Emperor ？I guess there will be some new features that really unique…and makes it a daddy vibe ？ ….to be honest ，I dont know what a daddy vibe will be like…bit hard to imagine ……I will guess…it is something deep inside every one of us has been fantasizing ？it depends on how our internal concept of ideal parent looks like ？it can help the user to bring out those parts…both being our own ideal parent and also others…

[bujin]

@Simon

Sean Connery, not the Godfather.

It kinda sounds more like an Emperor/Khan mix to me. Not really my thing, but I’ll see what they come up with.

I’ve never run HoM, not interested in the whole dynasty thing, but I’ll keep an eye out for the new version. That might be what I’m after (sometime later next year).

I guess instead of the lone wolf Emperor, this is more lion and his pride? Ultimately I guess it depends on how sexually-focused this title is and whether it’ll work for me, too much and I’ll have to pass. But with a title like Emperor Daddy it’ll probably be pretty high I guess.