@SaintSovereign can you give us a really cryptic idea of what your vision is so we can project our own beliefs and values on to your product idea and pretend that we all wanted exactly this thing that you cooked up for us, knowing that in reality all you said was a few words and we filled in our own ideal interpretation of what you said? 
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Massively upgraded spiritual protection scripting, including against… certain beings, forces, and agendas.
Massively upgraded intuition/clair-development, mental clarity, and “being in the now” scripting.
Find Your Inner Voice, Rogue, Untouchable, Light of Humility, Destiny Directive, Love Without Attachment scripting, for obvious reasons.
Radical self-honesty, direct embodiment of self and your truth, Gnosis.
Manifest people who align with the above, regardless of appearances, background, etc.
Transcend the fear of one’s own voice, power, spiritual gifts, leadership skills, and the influence and responsibility that come with them. Become comfortable with leadership being something spiritual/sacred.
Cleanse yourself of all false light scripts, identities, and imprints; develop immunity to them, and remove false light puppets masking themselves as empaths, healers, saints, etc.
Heroic courage and resilience to stand on business, no matter what, dialed to the absolute maximum.
Teaching teachers , with a focus on guidance that empowers people to become their own guides.
I am thinking in terms of becoming the kind of teacher who removes the need for a central authority figure altogether, instead empowering people to step into their own agency.
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Manifest and/or discern people who actually want to learn instead of pretending to want to learn. So that you don’t waste time on tire kickers and only invest time in the right pupils.
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Not yet. Wanting to see what the community is expecting from the initial idea. I will say that my idea is not a traditional “teacher / student” relationship. More about acquiring wisdom and infusing it throughout your life. Teaching through embodiment – they want to learn from you because you carry certain ideals, habits, craft, etc.
Perfect title for leadership of all kinds that deal with the transfer of knowledge and wisdom from one person to another.
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On a gurdjieff kicker rn and think harmonization of all Four Ways would be cool.
Learning through self observation leading to wisdom
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Super exited for this one.
Looking back at the hero origins copy there is something that really stood out to me about superheroes.
Becoming a symbol for this something greater people yearn for not for your own gain but so people can find it in themselves. I already posted it in the season 4 thread but what comes to mind is the scene from batman begins where Bruce Wayne decides he needs to become more than a man but a symbol to inspire. I like everyone else is imperfect but the thing you symbolize in peoples mind cannot be broken its immortal and incorruptible. Even if you step wrong your mistakes wont corrupt the wisdom that people have learned from you.
Symbols also are given power by people. If there is scripting so that the light you have to share can spread wide to many people that would be amazing.
Something that has come up alot in my own life as-well is that I have a very specific and pronounced physical archetype. People are very quick make assumptions about who I am just from that without looking past the surface. If there is some subliminal magic that could address inspiring people to look deeper within you to see the substance that would be amazing.
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Yes, please.
I have been thinking about the whole idea of the teacher–student dynamic, and what I keep running into is that it always assumes some form of dependency when approached through the traditional lens.
What I believe would be ideal in the long run is something where we become inspiring teachers who inspire others to teach from themselves, as themselves , instead of having to rely solely on the traditional duality of this dynamic.
Teaching should not be about trying to maximise how much I speak or how much time someone spends with me, in my eyes the focus should be on assisting someone to get back in touch with themselves, become as sovereign as possible, as quickly as possible.
A sort of decentralized system where we spread societal change simply through embodiment.
Frankly, I don’t think humanity is ready for it yet, but perhaps that’s exactly why this is needed.
We are in this weird in-between space, with one foot in the old world and one in the new, so current teachers may have to be able to shift seamlessly in some manner—to be hybrids of sorts.
Institutionalized teaching and individualized, one-on-one guidance going hand in hand.
Systemic intelligence scripting may help as well.
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Shouldn’t that simply be a sub feature of Chosen?
I would expect all of this to be simply part of the next Chosen update…
Otherwise I am not sure what ideas are expected here.
I am instantly thinking of Chosen…
Or just a module where your aura and behavior projects and inspires wisdom that others can pick up on and conceptually understand.
Sure, there will be some overlap with Chosen. But HERO is an Artisan Title. The purpose for the Artisan Line was that we could express ourselves however we want, and I claim that right. Overlap, yes. That also means they are stackable. The same? No. Chosen gets its identity from the Emperor line and approach. HERO is HERO.
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I used AI to summarize my thoughts as I not quite sure how to express them.
"What immediately comes to mind for me is the idea of complete wholeness in a man—not simply becoming more skilled, powerful, virtuous, or knowledgeable, but integrating all of those qualities into one cohesive way of being.
I’d love to see this title encompass the embodiment of virtue, ethics, philosophy, and uprightness alongside masculine embodiment, strength of character, resilience, and mastery of self. A man who can stand firm in his principles under pressure, even when everyone around him is kneeling. Someone with an exceptionally strong inner frame, the will to endure hardship, and the courage to act according to his convictions without needing external validation or approval.
To me, this also includes being completely comfortable walking alone. Drawing inspiration from themes found in Dokkōdō, I’d love to see a deep detachment from worldly attachments and external measures of worth—not needing wealth, status, romance, recognition, or possessions to feel complete. Not because these things are inherently bad, but because they are no longer prerequisites for inner wholeness.
At the same time, this shouldn’t mean becoming cold, isolated, or closed off from humanity. I envision a man who is grounded so deeply in himself that he can remain independent without being disconnected; he can receive as well as give, connect without abandoning himself, and teach or help others without needing to control them or make himself indispensable.
I’d also place a strong emphasis on competence, capacity, a powerful and disciplined mind, and mastery of both self and craft. Wisdom should be practical and embodied. It should inform how a man works, makes decisions, handles adversity, treats others, and carries himself in ordinary life. His character shouldn’t exist only when circumstances are favorable. It should remain intact when tested.
One aspect I’d particularly love is the integration of inner recognition and stable foundations. Something along the lines of the internal self-recognition found in Emperor: Reforged, combined with the grounding and stabilization of The Stabilizer, directed toward this archetype. A man who knows his own worth from within, has a stable foundation beneath him, and doesn’t need to continually prove or reconstruct himself.
Ultimately, I envision a man whose strength doesn’t depend on aggression, whose humility doesn’t compromise his convictions, whose independence doesn’t prevent connection, and whose wisdom isn’t merely intellectual. He has developed himself to the point where his values, knowledge, abilities, and actions are aligned.
He doesn’t need to advertise his character or convince the world of his worth. It is evident in how he lives.
For me, the essence of this title would be the integration of virtue, masculine sovereignty, competence, self-mastery, and wisdom into a complete way of being—and then allowing that embodiment to benefit others naturally, without attachment to recognition or outcome.
The teaching aspect would emerge from the man himself. People could learn from his example, his craft, his judgment, and how he conducts himself, rather than simply from what he says. He would empower others to develop their own strength and wisdom, not create dependency on himself."
A completely whole man who leads and inspires positive change in others by living as an example. Strong emphasis on Competence and Capacity. I wouldnt mind seeing Synergy: Iron Law added to the title.
I think themes of modules like Light of Humility, Love Without Attachment, Divine Self-Image, Inner Voice and Total Nonchalance would be helpful. I also want to see something regarding proper, articulate and wise speech with no filthy language. Something akin to Ardent Light + Peace. A relaxed Embodiment of purity. Radical Honesty scripting too please, as close to unable to lie as one can get as well as lie detection.
Idk, just my thoughts. Could be way off base. I guess I just want to reach the point where I dont need customs because Hero completed me 
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Omg yessss 
Pleasure in Mastery to the max
Energetic mastery of lifeforce
Purification of unnecessary evil / courage to smash the devil
Purification of information that’s harmful/has negative effcts to one’s psyche
Psyche Restoration tailored towards bringing value into existence
Willingness to fight for what is right without exhaust yourself
Concepts of brotherhood and sisterhood incorporation
Clear standpoint in life - values to the max
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Speach of Hero - Speak life into yourself and others
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One additional thought, Love has always been a struggle for me personally but I do recognize its importance as a guide for all other power.
"One additional thought I’d love to see woven throughout this archetype is love as the guiding principle behind the embodiment of wisdom, virtue, strength, and self-mastery.
I’ve been thinking about what ultimately makes a man whole. A man can possess courage, discipline, competence, unwavering principles, and an exceptionally strong inner frame, yet still direct those qualities primarily toward himself. He can be powerful without being benevolent, principled without compassion, or wise without genuinely caring about the good of others.
To me, the fullest expression of this archetype would be a man whose strength, wisdom, and character are fundamentally oriented toward what is good—not only for himself, but for the people and world around him.
I’d love to see something inspired by the natural, embodied quality of Chosen: The Way of Nature, combined with the atmosphere of love and benevolence conveyed by Essence: An Atmosphere of Love. Not simply as an additional quality, but as something woven into the entire foundation of the title.
This would mean developing a man whose inner stability allows him to love without desperation or dependency; whose self-respect allows him to care for others without abandoning himself; whose strength enables him to protect and build; whose wisdom helps him discern what genuinely benefits others; and whose integrity allows him to act on those principles even when doing so is difficult or comes at a personal cost.
I’d particularly love to see an emphasis on altruism that arises naturally from inner wholeness rather than from obligation, people-pleasing, or the need to prove one’s worth. Generosity without keeping score. Helping without needing to be needed. Teaching without needing followers. Leading without needing submission. Giving and receiving freely, without making either one’s identity or one’s source of worth dependent on the outcome.
This would also include the ability to love while maintaining strong boundaries, to be compassionate without being permissive, to forgive without denying reality, and to confront wrongdoing without surrendering to hatred or contempt. Love wouldn’t compromise the man’s discernment, independence, or strength; it would guide how he expresses those qualities.
I envision someone who is completely comfortable standing alone when necessary, yet whose independence hasn’t hardened into indifference. He isn’t detached from the world because he doesn’t care about it. He’s detached from the need to extract his worth from it, which frees him to engage with it more genuinely.
In this sense, mastery of self and craft becomes more than personal achievement. His abilities become a means of contributing, creating, protecting, teaching, and helping. His wisdom is embodied not only in what he knows, but in how he treats people, handles adversity, exercises power, and conducts himself when no recognition is available.
Perhaps the deepest expression of this would be a man who recognizes the same inherent dignity in others that he recognizes in himself. He doesn’t need to elevate himself by diminishing anyone else, nor diminish himself to serve others. He can remain fully grounded in his own worth while sincerely willing the good of others.
Ultimately, I’d love for love to be the integrating force that brings the entire archetype together: the principle that gives virtue its humanity, strength its purpose, wisdom its direction, and self-mastery its reason for being.
The result would be a man who is whole without being self-absorbed, strong without being cruel, independent without being disconnected, humble without being weak, and generous without sacrificing his own integrity.
He doesn’t merely possess admirable qualities. He embodies them in a way that makes life better for others, naturally and without needing recognition or reward.
To me, this would be an especially meaningful expression of the Wisdom Teacher: someone whose life itself becomes a source of wisdom, strength, and benevolence for others—not because he seeks to be revered, but because he has become the kind of man whose presence and actions genuinely contribute to the good.
And love matters because without concern for anything beyond one’s own achievement, self-mastery can become an extraordinarily sophisticated form of self-absorption.
That, to me, is the distinction between merely becoming an impressive man and becoming a whole one."
The story in this video really hit me and seems relevant to my suggestion.
Is it possible to make a “Stabilizer” for the concept of Love? Building a foundation for it that is so rooted that it powers/leags/guides everything you do? I wonder if you could use the same methodology for it, would be interesting.
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Not the full spectrum but to make it short
Hero was Mastery of the sword and inner values
Hero the light that blinds was complete mastery of the inner elements
So the next Hero could be Mastery of the outer world through mastery of the inner world (Hero & Hero tltb)
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Upps I saw now the Titel :Wisdom Teacher
Sounds wonderful
Omg fack yeaaaaaaa this will be an amazing release
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I think the works of David R. Hawkins might help.
Also, I think excerpts from Revelation of Mind and Revelation of Spirit would help.
Perhaps Synergy: 42 could be expanded on.
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a deep understanding of the students world views, and are able to deliver what ever the teaching is, in a package that the student can understand given their current world views.
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Looking at some of these, big yes on inner voice, and heroic courage and resilience.
Adding to that, I’ve had the experience of trying to teach or share or suggest some ideas to a person who has a very strong yang personality and will often subconsciously derail any attempt to have a heart to heart discussion by turning it into an opportunity to talk about themselves and their own stories. Not deliberately on a conscious level, but just by their own very nature.
In those circumstances, if the subconscious mind senses it needs to communicate something to someone else as an opportunity for growth, it would be nice to have the ability to have force and willpower, conviction and so on resonate through the voice and the patience and resilience to push through that type of issue. I think a lot of that is about outer voice as well as being able to be able to courageously activate yang energy united with compassion in teaching when the situation calls for it.
The image that came to my mind immediately after writing that which would probably also be a useful descriptor is “wrathful compassion”, which is one of those qualities that has been a challenge for me to develop.
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