From another thread:
All ideas are welcome, but let’s keep it focused.
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Second…
Well… Art Of War is about being a strategist.
Commander has always seemed to be about, well… command
And by that I mean the literal ability to give orders and have them be obeyed. Beyond just mere obedience there’s persuasion, influence, inspiration, leadership. But what they all have in common is a commander causing them to feel inspired to (be led/follow).
Without solid strategy, a commander can lead his troops to their doom.
But even the most brilliant strategist will lose the war if he can’t inspire his troops to follow his plans.
I see GLM:Co as a type of hyper dominant Chosen, and think building it in that style would be appropriate. Purely social/leadership focused like Chosen is, so that the status can be stacked with any product,
But, also like chosen, having incredible full effects on the user, and those comes across into his daily life.
Just like how chosen has a theme of hope that inspires listener and other others, and that’s a theme that connects to all of the healing, positivity, social effects, personal positivity, etc….
I see GLM:Co as also needing a theme that the entire title centres around
Perhaps certainty. Unwavering certainty. Unflinching. Absolute faith in your plan and your ability to execute it. Vision. And if vision is included, then that means elements of minds eye will be included,
And that makes sense too because a commanders job is to see the entire battlefield
Ah… but now I see what you mean when you say it becomes another version of Art Of War if you follow that train of thought…
But where art of war helps you come up with the plan, the commander helps you have unwavering certainty in your plan and inspire that unwavering certainty in others
A smaller feature could be leading your social group in a way that’s visible so that when you meet new people you’re seen as the leader of your group, which then just makes them think you’re a leader in general
Like WB it could be a heavy aura based title. Less cognitive than AOW.
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I think you should keep it 90% as is and just up the aura
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It could be hyper focused on status, respect, inspiration and ethical power… mixed with archetype-less leadership & charisma.
An example i could give is that GLM:CM could be the extraverted version of GLM which for the sake of this analogy, is the introverted one.
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Interesting idea. I think I’ll have to second that.
I think this is the right track, how to differenciate from Emperor, Chosen, Khan, etc?
Why not stack chosen with a dominant program?
Worth exploring in my opinion. We need to define what The Commander’s unique edge is.
I’m not spot on it, but it needs to be a bit different than emperor’s line of product and chosen line of product since it’s the godlike masculinity line.
I’m thinking maybe embodying leadership traits that are commonly linked with masculinity that might be less explored in GLM such as :
- Decisiveness
- Assertiveness
- Independance
- Competitiveness
- Risk-Taking
- Rationnality and objectivity
- Authority and control
- Goal oriented
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This.
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I also agree on keeping it mostly an Aura, it gives it a unique flavor. This way, we have a dominance/status/alpha aura along with romance, wealth and spiritual auras.
Also, if I remember correctly, Commander works best after having some experience with other alpha and status titles beforehand. Perhaps giving it some sort of “refresher” function to bring those effects to the forefront.
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As I understand the season of NSE, it’s about making each title complete in itself without needing a booster.
But I also meant I see chosen as similar to commander (but hyper dominant) in the way the title is actually built and stylized itself - not necessarily as having a similar effect.
Chosen being Almost completely social, not having wealth/productivity/etc,
I also see commander as being able to specialize like that, specifically onto the social/leader/dominant element.
Commander loses its unique edge when it becomes yet another “drive/productivity” subliminal. We have EVERY archetype sub for that. And a productivity/leadership title is a weird combo imho.
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More food for thought - how do we rope in more advancements in tech/philosophy from the newer products. TLTB, Aeon, GLM, etc.
GLM’s inner reservoir of stillness comes from the Tao/stoicism. It creates imperturbability.
commander could take a page from that since it’s a GLM product and add that imperturbability as well - with a specific bend to be able to see things clearly AND (especially) communicate clearly in a way that is objective, progressive, leaderlike, no matter how difficult or chaotic the circumstances are. Leadership that can never be stifled no matter how hard things get.
Another idea around this idea, a more spiritual leaning concept… an aura that makes people WANT to be led (discussed already) but specifically because of the impression that your leadership is in everyone’s benefit to follow. Trust that you are guiding them to the best thing for them in that moment and even that you can/are leading them towards what’s best for them in their life entirely, and that your leadership benefits society overall at a macro level
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Is this supposed to become a “very focussed title” or a “broader topic covering title” (like new GLM)?
If “focused”, then I would love for this to simply become a laser-focussed add-on title for Maximum Dominance, Maximum Status and Maximum Alpha of the Alpha scripting.
The idea here is that I would be able to add this GLM Commander add-on to my main stack without the need to add KHAN Stage 4 just because I want to add maximum dominance scripting to it.
No other title comes close to the dominance scripting in KHAN.
Or the massive internal status increase of KHAN.
But to get this, one always has to add KHAN 4 to the stack.
If the new GLM Commander could become that Alpha of Alpha add-on that one could easily add to one’s main stack, that would be awesome.
For this, the new GLM Commander would combine elements from Total Breakdown, as well as KHAN Stage 4 for continuous push and increase of one’s status and dominance. It would not be just aura, as the current GLM:C version, but also real internal longterm change.
Including “Edge of Danger” and similar elements.
I understand that all of this probably can be solved by building a respective custom too.
If “broader title”, then I think others will have much better ideas here being posted in the next days 
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I can see how repurposing some of the fame scripting from Stark black could be really helpful too. Amassing a collection of people who see you as a leader and are ready to follow your lead.
In that way, I see where drive productivity and ambition scripting can make their way back into the commander…
but instead of just a generic ambition and drive, it’s the drive to become a leader, and to lead something truly worth leading.
Who are you at your core and how could your mission change the world? You’ll want to go that route, if you’re already inclined to do so.
someone listening to the commander could become inspired to start movements, change the world, get promoted in their company so that they can help their company be everything that it can be, if that’s what they’re after.
Or just to get a promotion, the choice is yours. I could see the commander being such a powerful leadership sub that it becomes the new “get a promotion” sub.
But this question of “what do I care about so much that I am willing to do whatever it takes to do it, including leading myself and others with unshakeable confidence….” Is powerful.
How many people do you lead right now? How can you start leading more? How can you start crafting a vision and making it a reality?
The art of war works on the strategic planning of the moves and tactics of the situation, and excels at this tactical element. Perhaps commander is the title that helps you see big picture and pick which direction to go to towards - then AOW helps you strategize how to get there if you want to stack it
Ofc commander can have light elements of AOW in too so that you’re not absolutely required to run them together - but it’s a difference in scope, goals, and purpose.
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The commander having a lot of elements of earth/LOTS/shifting would be really powerful too.
A commander’s body language is unshakeable and you see him and immediately know he’s in charge.
Commanders are jacked af.
And there’s no product that’s heavy on physical shifting without being an actual physical shifting sub except for Wanted/WB which are one of everyone’s favorite titles and the physical shifting is a HUGE reason for that.
And we just released new wanted so the physical shifting tech in that can be utilized in Commander - except not to look like a sexy model but to look like a super dominant dude.
Kinda sucks currently that I can run wanted and get massive amounts of physical shifting without an extra slot in my stack if I have a romance focused stack, but there’s nothing like that for alpha/wealth titles.
PLZ PLZ PLZ consider this
THIS IS THE UNIQUE EDGE OF COMMANDER - PHYSICAL SHIFTING ON TOP OF THE DOMINANCE/LEADERSHIP
@Niles back me up bro
(I know emperor has some physical shifting in it too but it really doesn’t apply to what I’m talking about here.)
Jesus im so excited by the idea of physical shifting in an alpha title being a major feature. I mean that’s one of the biggest reasons why wanted is so successful. And it addresses the idea that leaders, especially “alpha” leaders portray authority by crafting their body into absolute units.
Jocko Willink being the perfect example he was literally a commander.
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Huh I actually think commander is one of the few titles that didnt need reimagining
It feels like it slots into its place so well as the ultimate status inducer. Especially the aura
I was actually considering using it once I become more in a prominent position
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Isnt that what spartan is? An alpha title with pyhsical shifting? Or Ascension? Im sure theyll be even better when updated
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Interesting comparison to Spartan.
Ascension definitely doesn’t have enough physical shifting to be noteworthy.
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I guess it’s worth noting that the sales page says the physical shifting in Spartan is light. Not a major component. “Combine with LoTS to get the full effect.”
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I don’t think of Spartan as an alpha title with physical shifting. I think of it as a fitness title with benefits to alpha results because of how closely physical dominance (mental/physical discipline) and social dominance are connected.
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Spartan is alpha and physical shifting towards the goal of being a beast at any physical endeavour of your choosing. The commander, if it includes physical shifting, is physical shifting with the goal of cultivating an EXTREMELY commanding presence.
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Wanted’s physical shifting is to look like a model, LoTS is health/muscle optimization to the max for bodybuilder/sport/health type results, Commander physical shifting would be designed specifically to make you look powerful/authoritative
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physically, that could include facial structure, broad shoulders, focus on muscles that pop while you wear a t-shirt/suit, a dangerous edge to you, hyper-masculine facial/bodily features, body language and posture that follows this theme, etc… you could even have fashion that enhances the effect
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Same lol. But I´d support the idea of @Jouissance to add some form of physical shifting that goes hand in hand with the aura. If the title gets changed, then I´d definetly want my body to match the hyperdominant aura.
And definetly Fearsome/Fenrir elements, love them as modules.
#QuaritchZP
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Dont forget that spartan,lots and ascension are also to be updated so they maybe what your looking for afterwards,
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Yes, the aura and physical shifting is something that can be strongly considered.
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