Stage 4 contains stage 2, I definitely feel the reprogramming effects, it will probably be more pronounced if I run stage 2 on it’s own.
I do feel like I need a blend of reprogramming and action together, I feel as if I can get more benefits that way.
Stage 2 has quite a kick, and it’s easier to act on actions as you get clearer from Stage 2’s effects+there will be less recon. I actually feel more ambitious and action-oriented on stage 2 than on stage 4. Probably because I never spent significant time running through the program. I’d say at least test it.
And you can always go back to stage 4 if its a better fit
@friday very successfully skipped from ST1 to ST4, I think it’s completely viable.
The difference is in how fast you want the “results…”
ST2 is about reprogramming you to be able to fully handle and live up to the results. It also provides insane results, my results with women and motivationally have been testament to that, but it’s still much less than ST3, which is “total action.”
So ST4 combines ST3 and ST2… aka, you’re getting programmed and taking “total action” simultaneously.
I wouldn’t skip ST2, tbh. But you could, if you wanted.
I would be more likely to skip ST3 so that I can get a lighter version of the action scripting AND continue reprogramming, then I would run ST3 after some ST4 when I want to kick it into hyperdrive.
I understand wealth and morality may be a conscious or unconscious conflict for people.
While general healing around resolving this duality on EOG would be great I also believe many people are clear and don’t have this. And the inculcation of that is a starting point is powerful
In fact, in my last year of exploring wealth and wealth mindset - it seems many very successful people simply feel blessed by their success and were focused on value creation. To them, money is a natural consequence of careers and businesses focused on passion, creation, and problem-solving.
Even people directly in finance have some of the cleanest mindsets on money; there is often little to no moral or artistic dilemma about it. In fact, to succeed and be the best is the moral thing thing to do. Especially if your creating further wealth for clients. It is simple. Despite the poetic ambivalence presented in Chat GPT analysis of this song, I hope that the new EOG sub solves this where a conflict may exist but doesn’t present any inherent duality or conflict in the scripting-originination point.
A lot of these themes - the price of wealth, material vs. spiritual, luxury and opulence vs. meaning, making money as selfish vs. sharing /philanthropy - - the basis of pursuit of wealth at some unspoken cost seems like a subjective issue to deal with but not an objective phenomenon.
I personally have some of it I can see revealed and think healing around it is powerful but, again, not as a pivot point of a wealth paradigm though.
There is artistry in the conflict that is fascinating and afflicts, I would say, many more unsuccessful people than successful people.
On a personal level. I work in the family office, finance, and entrepreneurial spaces in one career and make sales to individuals of tremendous affluence in another. We can have very deep conversations that can cover careers. And it has been incredibly refreshing to hear how clean and clear many of their stories are. (Many, not all)Their personalities are not predisposed to these conflicts, and many of them care tremendously about the well-being of others.
Please take this with a grain of salt all, just thinking out loud
Yet he continued to struggle with many elements of Khan and even wrote a whole post
and how most are not developed or in a position to do this or even run Khan
I mean , I certainly think there is nothing wrong with it. I can’t help but think anyone doing that is short changing themselves.
If I skipped stages in EOG, I doubt I would be in the somewhat ‘blessed’ position I am in now. I’m personally a big proponent of running the journey to reach the end stage- which is really the beginning of the real journey.
To me
Time spent healing is important, time spent in speculation and clarification is important, and time spent fully focused on a bias towards action and opportunity rather than balance is important. It all builds away from center to be able to come back to a stronger whole.
Edit: If one just wants the effects results, I totally understand that, but to me that is distinct than fully having gone through the journey of it.
This is just my bias it may have no ground in reality or others people’s experience
No you’re 100% right Azriel. I never knew he changed his stance.
I’ve always had this philosophy held very firm with every other multistager, to never skip stages. Khan seemed like a bit of an exception because of Friday. I’ll update my mental notes.
My personal recommendation with Khan would be for someone to alternate between ST1 and ST2 of Khan until they feel they’ve really started to master those, and only then advance to the higher stages.
ST1 removes blockages to becoming a khan, so, rather than try and be a perfectionist and remove all blockages before starting to reprogram yourself, get to work right away. A healing cycle followed by a reprogramming cycle follow by a healing cycle would make you have real blockages to heal - whatever wasn’t processed by your ST2 loop would be processed in bloom when you go back to ST1.
I’m get insane results with Khan stage 4, don’t know what else to say, could it be less optimal? Maybe… But I think with enough time on this stage I will get everything I want to.
I ran Khan Stage 1 for almost a year in various customs, by the way. Totally forgot about that.
Why aren’t there a fuck ton of Khan testimonials? Seems that Khan turns boys into men and sheep into feral wolves
St 1 for one cycle , then stage 2 for one cycle, then stage 1 again, rinse & repeat?
There are lol
I believe they just dissapear from the forum to focus,did read a journal where a guy was using emperor black and stopped updating his journal to focus,wich are just natural affects of the subliminals
I was thinking the same a bit ago
Definitely shows the power , scope , and potential of Subliminal Club
The more I’m on Khan the less I care about posting my results.
Also there are so many results and experiences to write about that I just choose to not write any.
There is a quote i remeber but not exactly where. ” Dont quote the buddha, be the buddha ”. Those who are living up to their own Khan will not be posting much about their results. I’ve noticed that people don’t tend to frequently report the same baseline, although positive, results unless something is new, answoring a question or it gets brought up.
Those here making over 6 fiqures + will not be posting about each time the make a ” meager ” 10K unless its unexpected, different in some manner or got brought up.
Those getting laid alot wont be posting about each time they get ” get a nut ” unless its different or adds value to the conversation.
E.t.c
Especially with Khan. Results will mean lacking the need for external validation which naturally leads to less posting and more living it up.
Writing a journal feels redundant when the results are abundantly obvious in front of your eyes.
SC’s effects are so in your face that it’s hard not to notice most of them.
But I followed the recommendation anyway and journal the effects.
Turns out it really helped me figure out the deeper effects & find more clarity for recons.
I believe that you should still journal even if you’re not really compelled to do so.
In deed.
It’s kinda funny to read this and notice how blind we can be to our own circumstances 
I don’t want to offend you @Azriel .
This is a very valuable mindset analysis of the wealthy, and I appreciate how deeply you’ve explored this. I do think, though, that for many of us who grew up in scarcity, developing this ‘clean mindset’ about money isn’t as straightforward. It’s not just about value creation or passion—there’s often a foundational layer of conflicting beliefs and experiences that need healing first.
What you’re describing—the clarity many wealthy people have—seems to stem, at least in part, from the absence of that scarcity background. And that’s a key difference. It’s not so much that they’re inherently predisposed to clarity; it’s that their circumstances allowed them to view wealth without the same internal struggles.
This clean mindset about money that you describe… wealthy people have it, most of us others, growing up in scarcity, don’t.
That’s why addressing and healing those conflicting beliefs is so essential for those of us who want to move out of a scarcity mindset.
@SaintSovereign
Your recent example about your recon on Limitless made me meditate on my struggle with wealth subliminals.
It’s not that I get recon. It’s rather that I see only tiny results, and they stem probably from other, more foundational subs like LB and Ascension.
I found that one of my biggest struggles with wealth is not financial. It’s work.
I grew up with my single mother and my grandparents. The first couple of years my mother spent away in a training center for a job. Then she spent my kindergarten years working late.
My father on the other hand was almost completely absent. He promised often that he’d visit, only to cancel last minute because of work.
It’s just a basic trauma with work with commitment. I couldn’t dive in deeper yet.
So perhaps some scripting to find underlying traumas from other parts of our life’s might be helpful and needed in EoG as well.
The secret to wealth is, Invest in yourself first.
Most people work for money, rich people don’t work for money, their money works for them.
This is from the sales page of EoG.
Were talking about material wealth not spiritual wealth.
No I just legit think that less people use Khan and less people COMMIT to using Khan now that there are so many “faster” (but maybe less world-shattering) options.
Back when there were 20 titles, and only 5 alpha titles, and Khan was the crème de La crème of them, people would stick to Khan for a long time and get crazy results. In 2019-2021 the forum was flooded with crazy Khan reports.
Now, they’re a lower % of the total reports, and since the forum is getting more mainstream, it’s getting more flashy/external, and the titles that have mind blowing transformations (khan, DR) aren’t quite as appreciated as the flashy subs with a clear achievement that can be manifested in an afternoon. (WB, RoTNW, RICH, etc.)
You cant become Khan in an afternoon tho