Main Disc. Thread - Season 4: Into the Wonder [9.28.25]

[Antares]

For becoming chased by an abundance of soulmate/Heartsong level partners that are totally fine with you being non-exclusive with them, what title would fit the best for this in your opinion?

WDB + Heartsong?

Heartsong + Wanted?

[Viktor]

@MAkh

Wanted feels neutral in terms of that it lets you choose what relationship you want

There is no push to have multiple partners

Or to stay monogamous

I feel like it respects your wishes and essentially works on other areas you need to work on

@MAkh

Interestingly, the mysterious vibe expresses itself as playfulness for me. I am very much loving, flirty and warm on it

I don’t really feel the sub pushes you to do anything either. More it lets you see sides of yourself that were already there if that makes sense

This.

After 8 months total of reconciling with WB over the years, I can say that it doesn’t make you become someone you’re not. It’s helping you express yourself in a different way.

It’s still you, but expressed differently.

It’s like adding another set of tools to your garage. It doesn’t replace you, it just expands the methods you can choose to tinker with. More options & combinations to master.

Using WB is like as if you’re given a tool bag full of wire cutters + a wire cutting expert to guide you. You can still use scissors like you always do if you want to, but now you also have the option to use a wire cutter when you deem appropriate.

You’re still you, just with a different tool. You’re still very much in control. Sometimes scissors are better, sometimes a wire cutter is better. You have the liberty to choose.

If you feel otherwise, shorten the loop.

[Akephalos]

How will WDB stack with heavy healing stack DRR and dr regen?
May replace regen once kb update but running this stack for now.

[SaintSovereign]

@Antares

Heartsong + Wanted?

This. Of course, we won’t know for sure until customers report, but based off the contents of the script and what the testers are reporting, I’m suspecting WDB is going to attract those seeking monogamy eventually.

[Antares]

Thanks man. I´m glad I finally start to reconcile the seeming contradictions, it seems I´m not the only one that struggled with the belief that freedom and depth/intimacy have to be mutually exclusive.

[Invictus]

Damn this is super active now

Quick update:

No loop today, but I ended up at one girl’s place, then another girl from the roster got a bit down that I wasn’t giving her enough attention, so she asked me if there was someone else I was also talking to, and I was like “didn’t I say that as long as I’m single then I’m for everyone?” And all I got as a reply was “then why don’t u settle down with me?”

I told @SaintSovereign since day 1, girls manifested on WDB will ALWAYS wanna be exclusive because they wanna serve u, as u seem like the prince of their dreams.

The best archetype for this is exactly what the girl whose place I was at told me: “how come you’re single? You’re like the Disney prince that every girl our age dreamt of as young girls.”

So I think the best way to explain the differences would be:

• WANTED, to manifest girls and attention.
• WB, to manifest a roster of girls who are basically mainly just wanna mess around.
• WDB, to manifest girls who are high quality and girlfriend material.

[anon15812918]

Don’t break stack when WDB comes out, don’t break stack, don’t break stack, keep pushing…

[SaintSovereign]

@Invictus

No loop today, but I ended up at one girl’s place, then another girl from the roster got a bit down that I wasn’t giving her enough attention, so she asked me if there was someone else I was also talking to, and I was like “didn’t I say that as long as I’m single then I’m for everyone?” And all I got as a reply was “then why don’t u settle down with me?”

Pay close attention to this interaction and the underlying dynamics. It’s relevant to the discussion going on today. Notice the honesty in his response. Paraphrasing for context: “As long as I am single, I am going to date around.” The unspoken inference here is, “but if I am in a relationship, I would dedicate to you.” She clearly picked up on this, and then made the conscious invite of: “Come be in a relationship with me, then.”

This interaction actually contributed to WDB’s dream-like effects. It is the honesty, and not any kind of trickery that helped generate her positive response. A man that is confident enough to simply tell the truth about where they stand together comes across as “alpha.” And it still gives off that Wanted chasing effect through presence and a strong internal frame. It makes the process of “chasing” or “pursuing” fun and flirty for both, and rest assured, a man who can so easily say this naturally gives off a mysterious vibe, because the next natural question they’ll have is: “Wait? How many women are actually chasing you?”

[bujin]

@SaintSovereign

We’re going to start mining for modules soon and will be able to update you then. Most likely, yes. Definitely ESSENCE modules for all the recent titles. Those are already in development.

Outstanding, Essence modules are awesome.

Will these be dropping this month as well?

[SaintSovereign]

Not sure. @Fire is the main developer of the ESSENCE modules, but he is currently occupied with his titles. When we do the ESSENCE modules, we want to do them all in one block. Given the level of work that we’re dealing with, if they do arrive this month, expect it later in the month.

[GoldenTiger]

I know this is FAR from the topics here, but masculinity discussions and “traditionnal masculine edge” plus the release of Chosen : The Way got me thinking about how a stack of Commander (or any traditionally masculine or dominant subs/archetype) and The Way would work, or at least how it would express itself.

I was curious to have your take on it.

[Thunder]

@SaintSovereign

There is, of course, manifestation of romantic partners who are actively seeking the “dream” archetype, but there’s no emphasis on them being a soulmate.

Thanks, but what’s the difference between someone who is extremely compatible with you and wants exclusive relationship(which is assume wanted dream boy would manifest) and a soulmate?

[Moon]

My question is always a question I will ask.

How’s the thunder mask big dog?

[SaintSovereign]

@Moon

How’s the thunder mask big dog?

ROFL. I promise, after the December festivities, we will work on the masks.

[SaintSpring]

@Invictus

WDB, to manifest girls who are high quality and girlfriend material.

So, basically, Heartsong and WDB use different approaches to achieve same goal?

[KingofClubz]

Here’s a metaphor you can feel—one designed to gently break the spell of indecision:

The Doorway of a Thousand Keys

You are standing in a long marble hallway.
On the wall beside you hangs a massive ring of keys—hundreds of them.
Each key is labeled: Right Choice, Safer Choice, Smarter Choice, Perfect Choice, Future-Proof Choice.

You keep testing keys.
One after another.
They almost turn… but not quite.

Hours pass. Then days.

What you don’t notice is this:

The door was never locked.
It only needed to be pushed.

Your indecision isn’t wisdom.
It’s the habit of searching for permission from a future that can only answer after you move.

The hallway never ends for those who keep testing keys.
But the moment you place your hand on the door and apply even the smallest pressure, the world opens.

Not because you chose the perfect key—
but because you finally chose motion over certainty.

And strangely…

Once you’re on the other side of the door,
all the keys you were afraid to choose from suddenly lose their power over you.

[Kandarpa]

@Invictus

So I think the best way to explain the differences would be:

• WANTED, to manifest girls and attention.
• WB, to manifest a roster of girls who are basically mainly just wanna mess around.
• WDB, to manifest girls who are high quality and girlfriend material.

Now we only need a Black edition of Wanted Dream Boy to manifest a roster of girls who are high quality and girlfriend material and who are also completely okay you are not exclusive with them and also not jealous of each other. Even open to threeways, fourways etc.

[SaintSpring]

@Kandarpa

Now we only need a Black edition of Wanted Dream Boy to manifest a roster of girls who are high quality and girlfriend material and who are also completely okay you are not exclusive with them and also not jealous of each other. Even open to threeways, fourways etc.

Meaningless. Why would a man need a lot of girlfriends?

[Furkan]

@SaintSovereign

You should be good then using Wanted or WB to get a long-term relationship, because it fits you, helps you develop your natural style.

Thanks for clarification

@SaintSovereign

Just think about if you were dating a homebody, then suddenly, she started changing how she dressed, talked, aspirations seemingly out of nowhere. It’s the change in consistency that would cause an issue. But if you met her and she was already a “femme fatale,” and you’re fine with that – no problems.

What I wonder about this let’s say your girl more a homebody type, but if you give her Seductress could she change to “femme fatale” type dramatically, or even if it’s not exactly femme fatale but very different person compared when you met her first.

Giving to this type of subliminal to her would be disruptive for your relationship?

Would it better giving her titles like HoT, LB,PR, HS…
And I’m wondering what would be best subliminal for a female to gain confidence and sovereignty over herself.

[Kandarpa]

@SaintSpring

Meaningless. Why would a man need a lot of girlfriends?

You can say that about many things that they are meaningless. What is meaningless to one person is meaningful to another. I personally love having a threesome, but it is cumbersome to be on the lookout all the time for girls who are open to this. So having a relationship with two or three girls who are also into each other would make my life a whole lot easier and more fun.

I am thinking about stacking WB and WDB to accomplish this.